True HP Aero For 2011

Great job Tb!!!!!!!! Sounds like you have had more time to work on this lately instead of stressful things at the job

konagirl420 said:

Great job Tb!!!!!!!! Sounds like you have had more time to work on this lately instead of stressful things at the job

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Sort of, since I work at home and my desk is on the deck across from my chamber, I stare at it all day whenever I have a spare minute and dream of how to improve it... I think I really like my new hobby- it definitely gives me pleasure, and I enjoy the challenge and learning experience it is providing. And I know it's only a matter of time till I get some awesome tomatoes and other things

Well that is def great to hear

TB just to let you know spray foam once it`s hard leaves no toxic effect i have used it on the back wall of my salt water tank to make a artifcial reef growing corals on it and keeping fish and never had a issue or toxic effect..........300 gallon tank with a 100 gallon sump http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/nftt/index.php Also consider removing your plants placing between a couple of damp towls until foam becomes hard if you are worried about the fumes or just raise the lid and go for it cures really fast...........

hammer21 said:

TB just to let you know spray foam once it`s hard leaves no toxic effect i have used it on the back wall of my salt water tank to make a artifcial reef growing corals on it and keeping fish and never had a issue or toxic effect..........300 gallon tank with a 100 gallon sump

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Thanks Hammer- that's good to know... I read some bad stuff, saying even a long time after curing the gasses were coming in through people's walls- but I also realize some people are overly cautious with no scientific backing to their claims, and I'd venture to think fish are a good litmus test... I think I am already settled on my exterior insulation idea. I realized with my current setup even insulated but without added cooling, and the temps being what they are here, I will never get much cooler than the ambient temps, and they are 95 on hot days. It's just not acceptable. I considered a swamp cooler idea, but the high relative humidity also negates any benefits there as well. I figure with good insulation, and my small 1/5hp chiller- it won't take much electric, and will give me absolute control on the rootzone temps, and we all know I am a control freak when it comes to aero... hehe

Hehehehehe good to know

TB, Have you thought about using a heat exchanger inside your pod after you insulate? Im assuming you have a chiller that you have been using to reduce the temps of you nutes?

Trichy Bastard said:

I also did a test of all the different cloud tops misters and the red ones are best. In a side by side comparison to the biocontrols there was no competition, the cloud tops were much better
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I'll also test the purple dig nozzles Mike and now r0m are impressed with.

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The thing you need to watch is the throw of the Tefen nozzles, The mist isn't pushed very far into the chamber. I still haven't tested the DIG on really short cycles.

Trichy Bastard said:

I'd venture to think fish are a good litmus test...

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Yes, salt water fish are a really good test for toxins, I think knowing the brand of the spray in foam would be useful, each manufacture has a specific formulation.

Trichy Bastard said:

I can see the dole pineapple plantations across the water on the island of Molokai out my window... As for the rest of your statement I'll just pass it by as you being a little faded and not quite making sense? lol... With a name like yours I can only guess what you like in the way of porn.. Perhaps it starts as a nice game of "pin the tail on the donkey" and quickly degrades from there? hehehe -Hope you know I'm only saying this for laughs and not really giving you crap bro...

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oh yeah.... my handle.... is in reference to E-40 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Flamboyant ) by definition means loud, boisterous, colorful character. actually is the opposite of me. i came up with that when i was REALLY faded in like 1997. chat rooms had just started, but evidently someone was already using "MrFlamboyant", so i cut out the "a" at the end. i have been all over the internet using it everywhere i went, so changing it would be too much hassle... but for some reason people automatically think homo. but i really could care less, cuz i know whats up. so no harm in flippin me shit, i can take all you got bro! but dont dish it out if you cant take it

anyway.... still waiting for root-porn.... u having problems uploading, or what?

I am sure it will be coming

Here`s a pic of spray foam wall with corals growing out of it 3 years and going strong

So, the combination of higher temps & alot less light has got me to the point where I think I can throw these bitches in my rig, & give it a go. I had to modify my lids a little, as I will be just droppin these cups in, and not using my 4" custom pucks. Oh well. I figure I gotta do some family stuff tonight & tomorrow, but I don't see any reason I can't get these things in this weekend. Unless anyone thinks I should let em get more established. Roots are starting to poke through here & there. I keep them misted inside the humidome, and you can see some fuzz in one pic. I want more of that!

aerojunkie said:

TB, Have you thought about using a heat exchanger inside your pod after you insulate? Im assuming you have a chiller that you have been using to reduce the temps of you nutes?

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Yes, but worried it will get condensate and be a wet spot for roots. I believe chilling the whole pod from outside it may be the best idea, especially since it needs better insulation...

mrflamboynt said:

oh yeah.... my handle.... is in reference to E-40 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Flamboyant ) by definition means loud, boisterous, colorful character. actually is the opposite of me. i came up with that when i was REALLY faded in like 1997. chat rooms had just started, but evidently someone was already using "MrFlamboyant", so i cut out the "a" at the end. i have been all over the internet using it everywhere i went, so changing it would be too much hassle... but for some reason people automatically think homo. but i really could care less, cuz i know whats up. so no harm in flippin me shit, i can take all you got bro! but dont dish it out if you cant take it

anyway.... still waiting for root-porn.... u having problems uploading, or what?

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Well as just explained, I messed up the roots the other day. The heat is causing them to grow very slowly anyway (or so I guess that's my problem). That's why I want to address the issue.

Happy turkey day everyone!!!

Happy Thanksgiving TB!!!!!!

@Trichy Bastard, I would like to know if your still using the 1 micron in-line filter and if it bottlenecked the flow or created any complications? I have enjoyed reading all the informative posts here. Nice thread. Best wishes.

Finally got the time to catch up completely on the thread. Phew, thats a lot of reading. I got a question for TB. With your test of the cloud top nozzles, did you notice any difference on the mist throw from the different colored nozzles. i.e.. did the white 80 degree nozzles throw farther then the red 115 degree nozzles? Also how far did they throw mist? I'm trying to figure out placement of misters and the number of misters needed to fill a 4ftx4ftx2ft chamber. I want to do 9 misters from the top shooting down and 8 misters at the corner walls shooting down the sides of the chamber. Basically 2 misters shooting at each other from 4ft away down each wall of the 4x4 cube. I just want to know if the mist shoots out at least 2ft from the misters. If it does, my design should work perfectly with .5 sec burst to get close to 1ml/100L. Thanks man. Happy Turkey Day everyone!

TB, et al, these pics are the plant that I had in HPA, but the roots weren't growing. I compounded the problem by dunking them several times a day, which caused them to stick together, thereby not providing the mist with a place to land.

Quite the comeback, I'd say.

FYI: The brown roots were what I started with before moving from HPA back to the bubbler. Also, she has grown a bit taller now ~ 14", plus, side branching buds are growing at each node.

Bubblers Rock for getting the roots started.

Wow the soil temps are warm there. Sounds like a good plan with the lights but if I remember correctly you could have the lights pointed at them from any angle and it will keep them in veg state. So maybe sit them on the side then you won't have to mess with them

Took a question out I had about wiring those selenoids up, found the data at stc valve.