Trichs Trichs Trichs

goinforbroke

Active Member
I have a question about the trich color issue. I have got a few plants that have at least 60 % amber trichs and the buds are airy and only a few brown hairs. Am I supposed to figure these are done and cut them, or do I let them get ripe and fill out?
 

nick17gar

Well-Known Member
yea i think so. done-ness is based on trichromes. milky is head high, amber is couch potato high. from what i hear the red hairs have nothing to do w it. im looking around myself for more info cuz i have like 60% clear and 40% milky so i know its not time yet, but i have lots of red/brown hairs
 

Brick Top

New Member
Read this and see if it helps you any:


What are Trichomes? Trichome 101
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Harvesting is, without a doubt, the most exciting part of the wonderful journey that is cannabis cultivation. After months of watching, waiting and tending to your plants’ every need, the time is approaching when you must cut them down to harvest their resin-coated buds and all of the leftover trim that can be used to make fresh potent hash.

You know that you need to harvest your plants in the coming weeks, but when exactly is the best time to do it? Every strain of marijuana has its own life cycle, so it’s not as simple as a specific number of weeks after flowering has begun. It’s even more complicated since you can choose when to harvest your crop for bud that provides either a head high or a body stone. Luckily, most if not all strains of commercially grown cannabis provide visual clues on when to harvest, and what type of high you are likely to achieve.

In this article, we’re going to explore the final phase of your plants’ growth cycle: the flowering or budding phase. Specifically, we want to look at the last two weeks of the flowering phase in what is known as the “window of peak maturity”. The window of peak maturity is when trichome development and the level of THC production in your plants have reached their maximum point, which is when you would harvest your plants. By being patient and paying close attention to certain indicators, you can reap fantastic buds that provide you with precisely the type of high that suits you best.

THC and Trichomes
Almost everyone who enjoys marijuana knows that, for whatever reason, THC is the psychoactive component in the bud they ingest.

As a cannabis cultivator, it helps to know just a little bit more than what THC is—such as how it develops over time and how chemical changes in trichomes contribute to different psychoactive effects.

The primary goal of any plant is to create and nurture seeds to be viable for future growth. Trichomes help prevent seed damage from insects, animals, light degradation and fungal disease. In the case of cannabis, trichomes also contain THC, the chemical compound that provides a psychedelic high to humans. THC stands for Tetrahydrocannabinol (C21H30O2). Near the end of the flowering cycle, THC begins to break down and turns into another chemical compound called Cannabinol, or CBN (C21H26O2), in a process known as oxidization. Higher levels of CBN tend to provide a more narcotic or “stoned” feeling, while THC delivers a more euphoric, upbeat “high”. Knowing this, you can examine the trichomes and the pistils of the plant, then choose when you harvest to get the psychoactive effects you desire.

Cannabis plants produce THC and CBN on their stems, leaves, and vegetation surrounding the buds and are developed in trichomes, which emerge on the surface of most of the plant’s parts. On the stems and the early fan leaves, the trichomes are small and hug the surface. As the flowering phase continues, the glands develop on the more mature parts of the plant, including the smaller leaves and the first calyxes (which exist to develop and nurture seeds if male pollen fertilizes the female plant). The trichomes that develop on calyxes no longer hug the plant’s surface, but are on stalks like mushrooms with bulbous caps. During this time, more and more trichome-covered calyxes develop and create densely packed clusters, called ‘bud’. As your plants enter the final stages of their life cycle, the calyxes begin to swell and ripen, while more and more resin glands develop on the surface.

Another indication of plant maturity is the color of the pistils, the little hairs that grow from inside the calyxes. Their purpose is to collect male pollen to fertilize the ovum inside the calyx, creating a seed. When no male pollen exists calyxes grow dense without any seeds, resulting in sinsemilla cannabis. Near the end of the flowering phase, pistils change color, entering the window of peak maturity. The ratio of white pistils to red pistils determines the type of effects your plants are likely to produce: a high or stone. In the final few weeks of the flowering phase, the pistils change from bright white to a rusty orange or brown, signifying the end of the plant’s life cycle.

Examining Trichomes

As the amount of trichomes covering your plant increases, you should take a closer look at them, maintaining a light touch to avoid crushing the resin glands. Your best bet is to purchase an inexpensive 25x microscope (available at most electronics stores), and most pocket microscopes have a small light to help you get an illuminated peek at your trichome development.

When you cut small buds from your plant to test them, you want to concentrate on the stalked glandular trichomes. The coloration of the gland heads can vary with different strains and maturity, but most start with clear or slightly amber heads that gradually become cloudy or opaque when THC levels have peaked and are beginning to degrade. Regardless of the initial color of the trichomes, with careful observation you should be able to see a change in coloration as maturity levels off. Some cultivators wait for about half of the trichomes to go opaque before harvesting to ensure maximum THC levels in the finished product. However, you will also want to try samples at various stages to see what is best for you. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the cannabis by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, there will also be a larger percentage of CBN, which is why some people choose to harvest earlier while most of the trichomes are still clear.

Now you understand how trichomes develop on your plants and how to examine them as they turn from clear to opaque, indicating THC breakdown.

Early and Late Harvesting

Every strain has its own unique window of peak maturity, typically one to two weeks long. However, there is a difference between har vesting early or late within that window, depending on whether you want a head high or a body high.

As cannabis matures the chemistry of the plant changes, as does the type of effects. While these differences in chemical nature still require a lot of research to fully understand, you can utilize them to produce different types of highs for different needs.

By harvesting earlier in the window your buds tend to produce more of a cerebral head high, an effect much more pronounced in Sativas than Indicas. A head high is more psychedelic in nature, providing you with a pleasant mental “up” state, often ideally suited for social situations when you still need to have your wits and plenty of energy.

If you choose to harvest later in the window, your buds produce more of a body high, which is conversely more pronounced in Indicas than in Sativas. A body high is similar to a narcotic “down” effect, usually associated with being “stoned”. A down type of high is often desired in the late evening to calm nerves and drift into sleep. A late-harvest yield is often sought by medicinal cannabis users to ease pain and increase appetite. If you choose to harvest somewhere in the middle of the peak window of maturity, you don’t necessarily get the best of both worlds, but more of a happy medium. If you aren’t sure what type of high you like or want, aim for the middle and you likely won’t be disappointed.

As you continue to examine your plants, you will be tempted, even compelled, to start pulling buds off of your plants to test them out. There is a right way and a wrong way to try out your buds before they are ready, so let’s take a look at your options.

Testing Your Buds

Most new growers start picking at their crop only a few weeks after budding starts. Usually this is because inexperienced growers get too excited and they don’t know that these small, immature buds still have a way to go before they hit peak maturity and reach the highest trichome development. But there is definitely nothing wrong with being excited about your ladies! Even veteran growers still get giddy seeing their plants start to sag under the weight of so much resin.

I don’t recommend taking any buds from your plants until they are approaching their window of harvest, and you should only take a small bud every day or two. You can test your first bud when approximately 10% of the pistils have turned reddishbrown; take it from the middle area of the plant. Once you’ve cut your self a small bud to try out, you need to dry it, but drying and curing traditionally takes longer than the entire window of peak maturity, so you have to quick dry it. Quick drying is a sub-optimal way to turn a lush, wet bud into something you can smoke, but it’s the best way to quickly test your bud every other day as it matures.

There are lots of different ways to quick dry your bud, but one of the best ways is to use your lighting ballasts in the grow room. First, cut up your fresh bud and spread it out evenly in an envelope. Close the envelope and place it on top of your ballast, then leave it there for two to three hours while the light is on. After the buds are dried out, put them in an airtight container and allow the last of the moisture to move from the stem into the bud. Considering this is a quick dry method, the taste is usually good and the potency is acceptable. Also, the use of a vaporizer will allow you to concentrate on your high rather than being distracted by the odd taste of quick-dried weed smoke.

By now you know what trichomes are and how the chemicals in them evolve from producing a head high to a body high over a couple of weeks. You also know that the pistils on your buds change color from white to reddish-brown as the window of harvest opens and closes, as well as what type of high to expect depending on the percentage of new and mature pistils. Throughout the window of harvest, you took small buds from the middle of the plant, quick dried them, then tested them out to determine the type of high you want your crop to give you. Now, you can harvest your plants with confidence in knowing that they will be loaded with resin that produces just the right kind of high you were looking for. Enjoy your harvest!

 

goinforbroke

Active Member
In this article it says they go from amber to cloudy but I have thought it was the opposite because of the common diagram that is also posted here. Which waay is it?
When you cut small buds from your plant to test them, you want to concentrate on the stalked glandular trichomes. The coloration of the gland heads can vary with different strains and maturity, but most start with clear or slightly amber heads that gradually become cloudy or opaque when THC levels have peaked and are beginning to degrade. Regardless of the initial color of the trichomes, with careful observation you should be able to see a change in coloration as maturity levels off. Some cultivators wait for about half of the trichomes to go opaque before harvesting to ensure maximum THC levels in the finished product. However, you will also want to try samples at various stages to see what is best for you. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the cannabis by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, there will also be a larger percentage of CBN, which is why some people choose to harvest earlier while most of the trichomes are still clear.
 

Brick Top

New Member
In this article it says they go from amber to cloudy but I have thought it was the opposite because of the common diagram that is also posted here. Which waay is it?
When you cut small buds from your plant to test them, you want to concentrate on the stalked glandular trichomes. The coloration of the gland heads can vary with different strains and maturity, but most start with clear or slightly amber heads that gradually become cloudy or opaque when THC levels have peaked and are beginning to degrade. Regardless of the initial color of the trichomes, with careful observation you should be able to see a change in coloration as maturity levels off. Some cultivators wait for about half of the trichomes to go opaque before harvesting to ensure maximum THC levels in the finished product. However, you will also want to try samples at various stages to see what is best for you. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the cannabis by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, there will also be a larger percentage of CBN, which is why some people choose to harvest earlier while most of the trichomes are still clear.
The one problem with the article is the part you quoted seems to ask a question that is then left unanswered. That is which strain/types of herb tend to go milky white/cloudy first and which might tend to go slightly amber first? I guess another question would be if it is true then when was it discovered because it is somewhat contradictory of the standard belief as in working totally across the board.
 
If I were to speculate I would think it would tend to be some indica or crosses with those types of indica in them that might turn slightly amber first. I have seen some pure sativas grown until they were useless, just dried out dead plants and the trichomes were all dried out and you could hardly find one that had turned half amber. So I tend to think that if it is a trait it is a trait in some indicas.

But the increased levels of CBN part was exactly the same as every other bit of information says about darkening trichome-heads.
 

goinforbroke

Active Member
Well I am sure that my plants are just part way into flowering and they are well amber colored like 70 or 80 percent. There are very few red hairs and lots that are still opening up. The buds are also very airy and the calyxs are not swollen at all. I am going to rely on Zeuses maturation method I think.
 

goinforbroke

Active Member
But looking at my plants I can see that they are not done. If I were to take them now I might have well make hash because they are almost useless. Would you chop now? I would not chop a rose because I saw a bud start and scientists said that it was done.
 

Twistedfunk

Active Member
we aren't talking about roses, we are talking about marijuana for consumption. His method works for him and he states that it is only personal preference and opinion. He also states that he completely ignored a scientific study to come to his conclusion. I even agree with letting the plant start to turn before even considering it for harvest. Its a scientific fact though that the amber trichomes are your resin glands oxidizing and degrading. So its very clear to me after reading his thread that its about how HE likes to grow for HIS preferred high which is at the very end of the window for harvest and imo overripe since MUCH of the THC in the pictures used are extremely degraded. As a patient and a caretaker that is 100% useless to me.
 

Twistedfunk

Active Member
I just reread this thread and it seems to me that, in the face of tons of facts and science thrown at you, you are compelled to do what you want even though this thread started by you asking a question which implied that you wanted an honest answer but it seems like you just want to hear what you want to hear instead.

If you KNOW they are not done then why are you asking about trichomes and when to harvest. The trichomes DO NOT lie. If they are amber then they will provide you with a certain effect. They have also begun to degrade and if your harvest would be useless, as you say, then wouldn't the hash be useless too? It doesn't seem to be like you know enough about what you're doing to be abandoning empirical evidence for your own inexperienced conjecture. Listen to Brick before you listen to that other guy. One of them uses botany while the other uses opinion.
 

Brick Top

New Member
zeuss' method is based upon his personal preference and isn't based on any actual science.

Some people even after it was known the earth was round preferred to believe it was flat, it was their preference. Just because it was their personal preference did it make them right, was the world in fact flat because they preferred to continue believing it was?
 
So maybe to you it seems like the Witch Doctor version of doing things over the modern scientific method is the way to go?
 

Dr. VonDank

Active Member
If they are not dense by the time they have amber trichomes they are not going to get dense or still be worth smoking.
True and false------You're correct about the dense part but incorrect about the " they are not going to still be worth smoking".
 

Brick Top

New Member
True and false------You're correct about the dense part but incorrect about the " they are not going to still be worth smoking".

Maybe I phrased myself poorly and instead of saying they would be worthless to smoke, instead saying next to worthless to smoke would have been the more accurate way to phrase it.
 
Once most trichomes have begun to turn slightly amber the THC is oxidizing, it is breaking down, it is going away never to return again and increased levels of CBN replace the lost levels of THC.
 
I don't not recall ever reading a message where anyone asked how they could reduce their THC levels but sure have seen a lot asking how they can increase the THC levels but then time after time after time I read about someone waiting for lots of amber before they harvest and cannot help but wonder why they intentionally decided to lower the THC level of their pot, to intentionally give up THC?
 
Increased levels of CBN cause people to feel messed up and confused and it gives you a feeling like you are about to get really high … but then it never happens … it teases you, it doesn’t please you … and that is what people intentionally chose when they allow THC to degrade and those CBN levels go up, up, up looking for more couch-lock than a stain has to give.
 
If someone wants major couch-lock then purchase strains with a CBD level of over 1.0 .. like 1.5 or so would be good .. that will glue your butt down nicely and it will do it without having to trade off THC to get it.
 

goinforbroke

Active Member
I am stating mainly that there seems to be confusion on this topic. What about the article that I quoted earlier that states that cloudy comes after amber? Is that incorrect? I am obviously trying to use science but I am also trying to use some common sense. Here is the scenario: If I have two Super Lemon Haze plants apparently done at the same time with one having dense buds that are high in amber percentages and looks ready and the other with buds like they are a month old, both grown right next to each other with plenty of light, and the same amount of amber trichs with 90% white hairs do I take them both down? What would you do Brick?
 

goinforbroke

Active Member
Here is another portion of the article that I failed to see the first few readings :Another indication of plant maturity is the color of the pistils, the little hairs that grow from inside the calyxes. Their purpose is to collect male pollen to fertilize the ovum inside the calyx, creating a seed. When no male pollen exists calyxes grow dense without any seeds, resulting in sinsemilla cannabis. Near the end of the flowering phase, pistils change color, entering the window of peak maturity. The ratio of white pistils to red pistils determines the type of effects your plants are likely to produce: a high or stone. In the final few weeks of the flowering phase, the pistils change from bright white to a rusty orange or brown, signifying the end of the plant’s life cycle.

I do have a mistake in my trich measurements. Up until this morning I have been looking at the leaves that are attached to the buds, which I have read on this site is the place to check, for the trich development. I decided because of the article to check small pices of buds. Well voila there was part of my problem. Not one plant that just yesterday showed done was actually ready. There are hardly any amber trichs on the plant I described. Sorry to question science but there is alot of confusing info on here and it makes it hard for a Newb to get things straight. I have most certainly took a few down too early but I still have used commonsense when taking them down even when all I could find was amber trichs and waited to cut. That may be a good point to remind people of is that you have to check the buds themselves for the trich maturity. Thanks for the help and interesting discussion. And remeber if I were not trying to use the best method for harvest I would have not purchased the scope in the first place.
 
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