Training tips to increase yield!

westcoast420

westcoast420

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I guess it can depend on your setup, but in general super cropping is a well know yield increasing technique. Is that a grady in your avatar? What size?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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westcoast420 said:
I guess it can depend on your setup, but in general super cropping is a well know yield increasing technique. Is that a grady in your avatar? What size?
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Well I have super cropped a few runs now and the plants that were left alone produced the same or more. If it was a yield increaser then it would be used a lot more I would think, or I suck at it lol. Nope it's a Rinker, 28'. Sold her last fall and miss her :(. No more guiding for me :). That I don't miss.
 
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I think this would qualify as a pic of big ones....too big actually. Those sour kush on the left more than doubled in size when they started to flower, 2 of them were on the ground, and it's 8 feet to the lights.
 
MediheaLed

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I only super crop out of necessity. Not for some sick pleasure! Oh, and yes, the old squeeze and bend over is HST. Lst is hanging small weights or tie downs, increasing pressure or weights, ever so slightly to "open" the plant, over time. I am a habitual FIM'r as well.
 
Budley Doright

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first time I grew White Russian the stuff tripled in size and I was bending and breaking like a mad man trying to keep it out of the light, it was an amazing site lol. I got to say it was one one my more productive grows but I really don't think it was the SC'ing.
 
kristoffolese

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Kingrow1 said:
I ponder the single cola sog technique over topping some grows...
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Just realize that not all strains will "cola up" equally in a SOG. Mist indicas are safe, but many sativa strains simply will not cooperate & your yield turns to crap. The tall girls will often fight you, guve you problems in a SOG grow. They typically need more time & space - but when they get it, can REALLY pack on weight. But the Indicas seem to naturally take to SOG style grows, & most will naturally grow a single cola when SOG'd. Have had some pretty pathetic results trying to FORCE a sativa into a SOG grow :p
 
onionslinger

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OldMedUser said:
Hoping to have 30 girls in 10 pots for each run. Got 60 seeds sprouted now.

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If you dont mind me asking, what are the final pot sizes you run all those girls in through the finishing gate? 1 gal, 3 gal? ...? Thanks bud

I cant imagine how thin you must keep them all. Sativa?
 
kristoffolese

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onionslinger said:
If you dont mind me asking, what are the final pot sizes you run all those girls in through the finishing gate? 1 gal, 3 gal? ...? Thanks bud

I cant imagine how thin you must keep them all. Sativa?
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Yah... I was scratching my head reading that, too. The only time Iv ever seen/heard of multiple plants in the same pot working, is when it is used as a "culling" method. You intentionally plant 2-4 seeds/cuttings per pot, & then cull out the slower, less vigorous plants. Helps with quality & uniformity... never heard of anyone having success growing 3 plants to a pot. At least not the same level of success that giving them all their own pot, so they dont have to compete for space, light & nutrients, will give.
 
kristoffolese

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kristoffolese said:
Yah... I was scratching my head reading that, too. The only time Iv ever seen/heard of multiple plants in the same pot working, is when it is used as a "culling" method. You intentionally plant 2-4 seeds/cuttings per pot, & then cull out the slower, less vigorous plants. Helps with quality & uniformity... never heard of anyone having success growing 3 plants to a pot. At least not the same level of success that giving them all their own pot, so they dont have to compete for space, light & nutrients, will give.
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Wouldnt it be better to just plant them individual, in their own, smaller pots?
 
onionslinger

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kristoffolese said:
Yah... I was scratching my head reading that, too. The only time Iv ever seen/heard of multiple plants in the same pot working, is when it is used as a "culling" method. You intentionally plant 2-4 seeds/cuttings per pot, & then cull out the slower, less vigorous plants. Helps with quality & uniformity...
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I do that with my veggies to cull the weaker, for a slightly different reason but i can totally see its applicatiin with weed..
 
Son of a collier

Son of a collier

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IMAG0809.jpg This is a clone taken from a budding motherplant that had been lst'd or supercropped.
The training is effectively done on the motherplant with supercropping during bloom then take the cuts and the consistantly bushy trait is carried on.
I neglected this girl for ages, left her on my patio (UK) since April.
look at the base, this clone always grows with 3 stems that almost appear like 3 separate plants.. .if she's cropped at 49 days i get 40 ish grams but if cropped at 70 days i can expect 100 to 130 grams..Veg up at least until you see pre-flower, many will disagree with me but i also find that vegging under a HPS with supplementary blue spectrum cfl gives the quickest root formation and promotes very good sturdy plants

IMAG0827.jpg it's a shame she was forgotten,she's had an attack of the borg (spidermite) today i released a vial of predators to hopefully finish the little zombie bastards....won't make any difference to the plant now but it makes me feel better.
 
Budley Doright

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Son of a collier said:
View attachment 3999230 This is a clone taken from a budding motherplant that had been lst'd or supercropped.
The training is effectively done on the motherplant with supercropping during bloom then take the cuts and the consistantly bushy trait is carried on.
I neglected this girl for ages, left her on my patio (UK) since April.
look at the base, this clone always grows with 3 stems that almost appear like 3 separate plants.. .if she's cropped at 49 days i get 40 ish grams but if cropped at 70 days i can expect 100 to 130 grams..Veg up at least until you see pre-flower, many will disagree with me but i also find that vegging under a HPS with supplementary blue spectrum cfl gives the quickest root formation and promotes very good sturdy plants

View attachment 3999238 it's a shame she was forgotten,she's had an attack of the borg (spidermite) today i released a vial of predators to hopefully finish the little zombie bastards....won't make any difference to the plant now but it makes me feel better.
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You are saying the clone has taken on the same traits as if it too had been super cropped like mom with out super cropping? I haven't heard of that happening before but cool concept. I've had good and bad results from supercropping and tend to only do it as a way to keep the plant from burning up in the lights
 
Father Ramirez

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Kingrow1 said:
I dont see many using the FIM technique anymore, maybe going out of fashion?
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I have no interest in following a fashion, but I have fimmed, and only recently refined my technique to the removal of only the tiniest, freshest sprouts as they emerge, with a surgical cut. Fimming doesn't guarantee four colas. You have to get a little lucky, but if you're topping anyway, who knows? One clone astonished me when she responded to a single pinch by self manifolding into eight equal colas. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than smart
 
Son of a collier

Son of a collier

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Budley Doright said:
You are saying the clone has taken on the same traits as if it too had been super cropped like mom with out super cropping? I haven't heard of that happening before but cool concept. I've had good and bad results from supercropping and tend to only do it as a way to keep the plant from burning up in the lights
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That's how i found out about the whole supercropping thing, i had been bending over tops to stop burning and took some clones late into bloom once they'd grown some the clones were really strange looking so i posted some pics on a forum other than this one and got chatting with a breeder who told me about using supercropping to produce bushy growth in the clones i thought he was pulling my leg until i looked into it..I don't aim to get the genetic mutation but if i find myself taking late clones then any that express the change i tend to keep like the one above....in all honesty i haven't seen many over the years and it can work against you too, i've seen an afghan #1 that was so all over the place it grew like a thick vine, a tangled mess almost impossible to manicure ,
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Son of a collier said:
That's how i found out about the whole supercropping thing, i had been bending over tops to stop burning and took some clones late into bloom once they'd grown some the clones were really strange looking so i posted some pics on a forum other than this one and got chatting with a breeder who told me about using supercropping to produce bushy growth in the clones i thought he was pulling my leg until i looked into it..I don't aim to get the genetic mutation but if i find myself taking late clones then any that express the change i tend to keep like the one above....in all honesty i haven't seen many over the years and it can work against you too, i've seen an afghan #1 that was so all over the place it grew like a thick vine, a tangled mess almost impossible to manicure ,
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The same happened to a White Russian I had. Went all viney and looked like Dr. Grinspoon lol I didn't trim it, went into the oil bag lol.
 
Son of a collier

Son of a collier

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Father Ramirez said:
I have no interest in following a fashion, but I have fimmed, and only recently refined my technique to the removal of only the tiniest, freshest sprouts as they emerge, with a surgical cut. Fimming doesn't guarantee four colas. You have to get a little lucky, but if you're topping anyway, who knows? One clone astonished me when she responded to a single pinch by self manifolding into eight equal colas. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than smart
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i got all my good seeds mixed up with all my bagseed on one occasion about 30 seeds all in all so i put em in a bag and we moved house shortly after they were lost
i was looking for some newspaper for my parrot cage, chucked what i found in an old moving box in the bottom of his cage and when i came to clean it out i found a soggy brown paper bag full of sprouts lol. that was lucky
 
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