Tourists Could Be Banned From Marijuana Bars

This is from the Wall Street Journal
Associated Press

THE HAGUE, Netherlands—The Dutch government moved a step closer to barring tourists from Holland's signature marijuana bars with a ruling by the European Court of Justice on Thursday that the ban wouldn't violate European laws.
The Luxembourg-based court said the southern Dutch city of Maastricht was within its rights when it briefly banned non-Dutch residents from its soft drugs dens in 2005.
The policy aimed at curbing problems by so-called drug tourists who flock to the city from nearby Belgium and Germany. The visitors have a reputation for rowdiness, creating havoc on the roads and in the city's narrow medieval lanes.
While marijuana is technically illegal in the Netherlands, it has been sold openly for decades in designated cafes, known as "coffee shops." Police make no arrests for possession of small amounts.
However, the new conservative government of Prime Minister Mark Rutte is planning to make the coffee shops members-only clubs, aiming to shut out tourists.
Justice Minister Ivo Opstelten has said he wants to turn coffee shops back into small neighborhood haunts where locals can smoke pot in peace, instead of the large-scale tourist magnets many have become.
Authorities warn that organized crime gangs dominate the illegal cultivation of cannabis plants to supply the shops. It is one of the anomalies of the Dutch drug policy that selling weed is allowed but growing it is not.
Marc Josemans, owner of the Easy Going coffee shop in Maastricht who initiated the legal fight, argued that coffee shops are a successful way of regulating the drug market and preventing marijuana users coming into contact with drugs like heroin.
"All these people who visit coffee shops, they want to use and buy cannabis in a safe haven where they are not being contacted with hard drugs or hassled for other things," he said. "That place is called the coffee shop."
The court said in its written ruling that banning foreigners from coffee shops "constitutes a measure capable of substantially limiting drug tourism and, consequently, of reducing the problems it causes."
The ruling rejected Mr. Josemans's claim that the policy breached European Union laws on the free movement of goods and services. The court said that because selling marijuana is technically illegal the EU laws don't apply.
 

budsmoker87

New Member
motherfuck this prime minister piece of shit

MY body, MY choice


NOBODY has authority over me...I don't care how fucking rich of a powerful snob you are
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
This is from the Wall Street Journal
Associated Press


Authorities warn that organized crime gangs dominate the illegal cultivation of cannabis plants to supply the shops.
Could there be any other way? If Pot is illegal, then anyone who sells it is a criminal, and if more than 1 person works together then I'm sure you could call them a gang, so a husband and wife team who grow medicinal in their basement and then sell it could be considered a criminal gang. The rest of the cultivators are single "Criminals". If they made pot Legal, all those criminal gangs would cease to exist merely due to the fact of the definition would no longer fit them since what they do is legal.

Like in the USA, if drugs were all made legal, you would see a 80% crime reduction across the board the very minute it was made legal. 80% of people in jail are there for drug related offenses. The drug war is not a war on drugs, it is a war on people.
 

redivider

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that's not gonna work.

holland's police department chooses what laws to follow pretty freely.

selling and possesing weed is illegal, they have coffee shops everywhere.

same thing will happen tothis law. it's not supposed to happen, but it'll happen anyways....
 

Ronjohn7779

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I don't think there is a year that goes by that I hear this same thing. In any case, if this were to pass Amsterdam would lose a ton of taxable revenue and tourism in general. Most people only hit up Amsterdam for the weed and the hoes. Removing the weed would make Amsterdam just like any other shitty city in Europe (and believe me there are a lot of other places people would go to over Amsterdam). Hoes can be easily found anywhere in Europe. They're a lot more lax about sex then the USA.
 

redivider

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I don't think there is a year that goes by that I hear this same thing. In any case, if this were to pass Amsterdam would lose a ton of taxable revenue and tourism in general. Most people only hit up Amsterdam for the weed and the hoes. Removing the weed would make Amsterdam just like any other shitty city in Europe (and believe me there are a lot of other places people would go to over Amsterdam). Hoes can be easily found anywhere in Europe. They're a lot more lax about sex then the USA.
people that visit amsterdam for the weed come home dissapointed, it's just weed....the red light district is cool too...

amsterdam's real key to happiness is the shrooms, and the museums.... hehe....
 
people that visit amsterdam for the weed come home dissapointed, it's just weed....the red light district is cool too...

amsterdam's real key to happiness is the shrooms, and the museums.... hehe....
the histroy in Holland is phenomenal. Weed I can get anywhere so thats not a big deal.
 
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