Total Hydroponic Control (T.H.C.) - The build starts NOW!

High Power

Active Member
I built an automated reservoir cleaner. Used a 2HP pump and 4 oscillating ratcheting sprinkler heads attached 6" apart on a column from the top of the pump. The unit was dropped through the top of a 250G square reservoir. About 4" to 6" of water and cleansing solution was put int the bottom. When the pump was turned on, the 4 sprinklers blasted the sides with so much force we couldn't leave the res room door open. Took less than 10 minutes to give the res an through cleaning. Don't have any pics, but a visit to a Home Depot or similar store can get you everything you need to build.
 

og_sandman

New Member
So how is the system currently? i am sure it has already been implemented. What a beautiful project. Would love to see the ladder logic. considering building one myself or at least making a smaller version that only does certain tasks...

Thank you for sharing.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I am well versed with Wonderware software. You are correct on many accounts. Wonderware is incredibly powerful, flexible software. Unfortunately WonderWares greatest pitfall is its price. Wonderware licenses require yearly renewall. Development licenses start at 1500 dollars a year, and runtime licenses run around 800 dollars. Thats a YEARLY fee that must be paid for continued support. In 10 years it will cost you well over 15 grand to run a single Wonderware application if you also own a development license. The development license is what allows you to create programs.

Regarding Ladder logic. The Automation direct DL06 PLC which I'm using as the controller, is programmed entirely in Ladder Logic. I can also program PLC's in Function Block, and Structured text. But the DL06 is only capable of Ladder.

DIYer, The pumps are incredibly accurate. These pumps can be sized down to less than a milliliter per minute. Meaning that if you wanted, you could dose in tenths of a ml very EASILY. All peristaltic pumps have very uniform feed rates. The reservoir can be sized to whatever you like, and then a peristaltic pump can be matched to the size. The pumps I've spec'd out will be perfect for anything between 10 and 200 gallons. But pumps could be sized for thousands of gallons quite easily.

Initial nuting of a fresh reservoir is the easiest part. Take the needed mililiters of each nutrient divide it by the pumps mL per minute rating and you have a run time for initial dosing. NOW for the cooler part. I see your system is drain to waste, which means you mix a new batch of nutes each time you feed. My system is also designed for maintaining a reservoir that is constantly recycling the nutes. After each feeding cycle the controller measure the PH and EC, and then the Proportional Integral Derivative (PID) Loops activate the needed pumps to restore the reservoir to its set points. As long as the DC motors maintain speed ratios in accordance to the nutrient ratios, the reservoir will continue to maintain the exact 2:1 nutrient ratio that is required - minus any difference that the plants create through absorbtion, (I can only monitor total dissolved solids, theres no way for me to check N-P-K ratios). Essentially this means never again touching nutrients or ph chemicals, unless its to change a bulk bottle, which could take several months, if not longer. The Nutrient bottles will have mixers to maintain uniform consistency.
I think I just came in my pants.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
PLC's are inherently scale-able. Its why you'll find PLC's in every factory in the world. Following in my footsteps would be difficult, unless your familiar with electronics and have a fundamental understanding of electrical theory. The ruggedness and reliability of industrial PLC's and sensors is the real showcase. I'm designing the entire system around dependability. This project would be difficult to duplicate for the average grower. I didn't necessarily start playing with the concept as a tutorial. I have an intense interest in automation, electronics, and technology in general, this project was meant to showcase the real potential of technology, and how it will help growers in the present and future. It looks like others with similar knowledge offer their services here. I do not currently have any intentions of making this controller available for purchase, however this is not to say that in the future it would be out of the question. For now, my only goal is to explore the potential of a fully automated grow room, test delivery and control methods in order to determine best practices, and to move towards an ever more efficient use of resources.

For those with electronics backgrounds, much of what I've shown here can be easily duplicated. For those with little to no electronics/electrical background, I would always advise seeking out a solution more readily available.
I'm guessing you're not around anymore, it's been 5 years since you signed in. Too bad, I need someone with your expertise and I'm willing to pay top dollar for it.
 

Timezone

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I'm guessing you're not around anymore, it's been 5 years since you signed in. Too bad, I need someone with your expertise and I'm willing to pay top dollar for it.
I have been looking forward to an update also...

What are you looking for ttystikk if I may ask?
 
I need someone with experience in PLC and industrial controls to discuss my start-up with.
I am in the beginning phases of creating my own custom controller for a few of my grow rooms, we may be able to collaborate after I tighten everything up. I am a facilities/industrial engineer with a decent amount of controls experience in the field as well as design & layout. If all goes as planned, I will be able to configure the exact system for other users at different scales of course. Stay in contact!
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I am in the beginning phases of creating my own custom controller for a few of my grow rooms, we may be able to collaborate after I tighten everything up. I am a facilities/industrial engineer with a decent amount of controls experience in the field as well as design & layout. If all goes as planned, I will be able to configure the exact system for other users at different scales of course. Stay in contact!
This sounds like exactly the kind of project I've been looking for. Please do stay in touch!

PM me for my email address; you won't be able to private message until you've made some 30-50 posts and gotten some "likes" as it's his to site keeps spammers at bay.
 
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