Today's race

TheMan13

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yeah, i think we all miss the days of shrub's leadership where the whole world loved and respected us.

i mean, seriously. do you have any memories prior to january 2009 whatsoever?
[video=youtube;0eXIOK2vOhM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eXIOK2vOhM[/video]
 

TheMan13

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Within hours, and one can assume the above pics/images in hand, this administration intentionally and without question removed any reference to these individuals from the intelligence received and somehow inserted this man whom still sits in prison on a probation violation:



To blame a US citizen and their 1st Amendment right to speech for this crime is well beyond reality. As this man was quickly arrested and held accountable, where are those men to whom reference had been removed today :?:

... Not one person lost their life and/or were maimed in the White Water scandal/cover up ...
Bump this post from last week ...
 

UncleBuck

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and the crowd goes wild!

just kidding. apparently you are too slow to realize that no one cares about you re-bleating glenn beck conspiracy theories and right wing mental retardation.
 

TheMan13

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and the crowd goes wild!

just kidding. apparently you are too slow to realize that no one cares about you re-bleating glenn beck conspiracy theories and right wing mental retardation.
[video=youtube;0eXIOK2vOhM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0eXIOK2vOhM[/video]
 

mrbungle79

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yes he was. do my best not to follow politics but for christsake this guy just drives me insane. from this latest issue dealing with benghazi to the monsanto protection act. enough already. wish joe blow factory workin' family man could run for pres. i'd vote for him
 

TheMan13

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There is no question that both Bush & Obama are a new generation of politicians that I would characterize as more confident than correct (just as their parties) and a danger to this countries future. That said, regardless of Bush and Bill Clinton's politics they both provided effective leadership as both Governors and President to this country. The complete and utter lack of leadership and experience on the other hand is a distinct and new characteristic Obama has brought to the office. Blaming others and avoiding accountability while claiming transparency is and never will be an effective leadership style.
 

TheMan13

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This clip is 5 months old ...

[video=youtube;ZlFntL3WWro]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlFntL3WWro[/video]
 

TheMan13

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In reading over Pickering's December Accountability Review Board (ABR) it is beyond odd that the actual leadership on the ground (Gregory Nicks) and Washington DC (Kennedy & Clinton) were given no consideration in such. Furthermore, to omit any acknowledgement of the fraudulent intelligence/talking points provided by this administration and how such hindered this countries response and ability to hold perpetrators accountable is beyond reason.

Finally one of the strangest things I find from this report is Admiral Mullen's reference to the Benghazi problem being a "culture of comfort". As I doubt this was a type o, and this report and Benghazi situation obviously embody a "culture of corruption", it gives concern as to his duress.



Anyone picking up what I am putting down here?

 

st0wandgrow

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There is no question that both Bush & Obama are a new generation of politicians that I would characterize as more confident than correct (just as their parties) and a danger to this countries future. That said, regardless of Bush and Bill Clinton's politics they both provided effective leadership as both Governors and President to this country. The complete and utter lack of leadership and experience on the other hand is a distinct and new characteristic Obama has brought to the office. Blaming others and avoiding accountability while claiming transparency is and never will be an effective leadership style.
You're right, Bill Clinton was an effective leader as President.... but George W Bush??? C'mon, dude. If by effective you mean starting two bullshit wars which led to 10's of thousand of American deaths and trillions in treasure lost, and driving the economy off of a cliff in the process then ya, he was real effective.

You're attempting to hold Obamas feet to the fire over one incident, and yet you give an attaboy to the guy that was in charge during Pat Tillmans death, water-boarding scandals, lies about weapons of mass destruction, the outing of Valerie Plame, dismissal of United States attorneys, etc, etc, etc.
 

TheMan13

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You're right, Bill Clinton was an effective leader as President.... but George W Bush??? C'mon, dude. If by effective you mean starting two bullshit wars which led to 10's of thousand of American deaths and trillions in treasure lost, and driving the economy off of a cliff in the process then ya, he was real effective.

You're attempting to hold Obamas feet to the fire over one incident, and yet you give an attaboy to the guy that was in charge during Pat Tillmans death, water-boarding scandals, lies about weapons of mass destruction, the outing of Valerie Plame, dismissal of United States attorneys, etc, etc, etc.
Can you provide me a list of leadership accomplishments for Obama :?:
 

TheMan13

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Uncle Buck does make a good point. Where is the accountability with Republicans defunding security in our embassies?

Also, considering the following, one can't help but believe that all of this "outrage" is political in nature. Where was the howling when all of this happened:

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.
WTF is this :?: Political talking points you chose to quote and failed to defend :?: Kind of like the dude with the good point ...

Don't assume I am playing politics, because I appose yours :!:
 

st0wandgrow

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WTF is this :?: Political talking points you chose to quote and failed to defend :?: Kind of like the dude with the good point ...

Don't assume I am playing politics, because I appose yours :!:
That is list of attacks on our embassies and consulates around the world while Bush was President. It was posted to highlight your selective outrage. This ONE incident that occurred while the dark skinned liberal was in office seems to be of real concern to you, while the others are merely a footnote in an other wise "effective leaders" tenure.

Your hypocrisy has been noted. You're not to be taken seriously where politics are concerned any longer.

Now bust out a picture of a kid licking a window.....
 

Firstoffallen

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That is list of attacks on our embassies and consulates around the world while Bush was President. It was posted to highlight your selective outrage. This ONE incident that occurred while the dark skinned liberal was in office seems to be of real concern to you, while the others are merely a footnote in an other wise "effective leaders" tenure.

Your hypocrisy has been noted. You're not to be taken seriously where politics are concerned any longer.



Now bust out a picture of a kid licking a window.....

[video=youtube;x39bmr892hw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x39bmr892hw[/video]

^^^ doesnt appear very liberal to me

Oh how bout the whole Bradley Manning , Julian Assange goof from the Gangster in Chief. Bush was a patsy poster child, dude couldn't complete sentences for god sakes this argument is only valid assuming the system isnt already broken (which in my opinion it is ). Both Presidents have done more harm than good in there terms of "service". they both used the positions for personal gain on many occasions. They just have everyone soo distracted on who fucked em harder turd sandwich or giant douche.
 
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