Tincture for Dog

GrowinDad

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My dog is getting old and is having the normal problems with arthritis, displatia, etc. He's on the rimadyl and glucosamine and had his first laser therapy yesterday. Vet is great but wants to up the rimadyl, try other meds, etc to help him feel better. Dog is happy and healthy as can be outside of this stuff.

By coincidence, I just popped my first CBD seeds a few days ago. So I got to thinking and did some research, and it seems people are making VG tinctures for pets. Outside of the fact that the vet are solutions are pricy and weed is essentially free, I would much prefer to go natural if possible.

Does anyone have any experience in this area? I have no idea of a recipe/dosage etc. My dog is about 65 lbs. I know how to make the tincture, just not sure for this purpose how much bud/leaf to use with how much VG and then dosage.
 

WeedFreak78

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Seeing how I'm a worst case scenario type...watch who you discuss this with. One rabid animal lover could possibly cause trouble if they report you for animal abuse, even though WE know it isn't. I keep reading stories of people getting arrested, and know of one personally who was investigated, for animal abuse just for blowing smoke in their pets faces. Just be safe.
 

GrowinDad

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Thanks. No worries. Mum is the word here. Though if it works, I may have to ask my Vet his thoughts on what I had researched :-)

I am using leaf so I will the qty. Going into the oven to decarb shortly...
 

kimoolos

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Talk with your vet, you may be surprised many of them are open minded about medical cannabis especially in a legal state. It's something that the American Veterinary Medical Association is still trying to discuss how to proceed with. Dr. Doug Kramer was a vet who was very outspoken and even formulated tinctures for his dog with cancer, unfortunately he passed away but I believe if you google him there's still info on his company. I've heard of people using Harlequin tinctures safely, but no idea the dosing. Good luck!
 

qwizoking

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Be careful with dosage, they are much more sensitive than humans. The crumbs of your average edible will cause a medium sized dog the inability to maintain balance even keep itself standing and will dribble pee uncontrollably. At high doses can even cause seizures and other effects consistent with a "full agonist" like jwh in humans. For some reason not so commonly known thc acts on cb1 and cb2 receptors nearly equally. Its also what we call a "partial agonist" with a relatively quite low binding affinity and efficiency in humans. This is a good thing for recreational users.
This is not the case for our beloved pets. Full agonists can be very dangerous.

Im not saying dont use it, but with caution.

Cannabinoids have a bi and tri-phasic effect, its not as simple as give cannabinoids and treat. An example ive experienced personally is cutting off my finger i smoked to relieve peripheral nerve pain. A single extra hit caused the uncomfortable tingling sensation and 1 more intense pain, this is a bi-phasic effect. With a narrow therapeutic window and a binding affinity many many times higher it is difficult to use treating pets, more so than humans for sure.
Now cannabidiol has antagonistic effects as well as inverse agonist effects complicating use even more so.

I lean towards the animal abuse side with cannabinoids. People blindly dosing pets with no clue of what theyre doing, then you have people that have done research and think they know what they are doing. Theyre the worst kind, "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing". And what we're talking about is immensely complex. Cbd alone acts on atleast 10 pathways, not counting indirect modes of action
 
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WeedFreak78

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I lean towards the animal abuse side with cannabinoids. People blindly dosing pets with no clue of what theyre doing, then you have people that have done research and think they know what they are doing. Theyre the worst kind, "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing".
IDK if I would outright call it abuse, it's premeditated, but without the intention of causing harm, maybe negligence? but that's another discussion. My argument would be that without being able to get direct patient feedback you have no real input as to its effects.
 
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