Time to harvest..... BUT

Ok so I keep reading there are diff camps as to lights off, flushing etc.

My question: I need to harvest two ladies, most the tops look done, the lowers are a little behind. So if I do the lights off for 48 hrs to harvest (never have before-2nd harvest now) in order to chop the tops now, do I just leave the bottoms and turn the lights back on and let the lowers go longer?

Or if I do the no lights for 48 and then try to let the lowers go won't the light change fuck up the lowers and their light cycle?

Or not worry about and chop the whole thing (as long as T's are cloudy on the lowers)

you don't have to do the 48 hour thing at all buddy.. but I mean if you insist on doing it, then alright.

anyhow, yea.. what you do is harvest the bud or buds that are ready for harvesting.. and let the lower ones finish up.

Many people do it this way.. sometimes I even do it like that depending on the conditions.

So yeah, you'll be find buddy.


peace.

Thanks for the reply. The first harvest I ever did (few weeks ago) I just chopped the bitches down mid-day light cycle so I could see WTF I was doing.... I also didn't flush correctly at all. The smoke is super funk, but taste like shit, well now that the proper cured stuff is getting used, and it is not like the early stuff, taste good.

My reason for the question is I have never done the lights off thing, people swear it makes the buds fatten up more? I have no way to know unless I try it.... that said, I have no problem just chopping them and doing so in sections. I just did this with a sativa, but the lights were never shut off for anytime.

Dose the lights off thing before chop really done anything for the better or is that all bullshit, after all the sun still comes up day after day @ the end of the season outside.... you would think if it was important to proper plant growth, god would have made two days of dark @ harvest time....

the lights going off for 48 hours or whatever doesnt really do anything. like guru said some people swear by it but you will get the same results. flush the plants if you havent already. take two tablespoons of molasses or syrup in a 2 liter bottle of water and water with that and let it go for another day or two. the natural sugars will feed the micros in the dirt and stimulate roots and benefits the plants greatly. when i did it the first time my buds doubled in size over 3 days so its a neat little trick

and on your last harvest the buds tasted like crap cuz you didnt flush and allow the plants to use up their stored energy.....good luck

If you want more new growth, I would think chopping the tops off and leaving the lights on their normal schedule. I would think messing with the light schedule will mess with the flowering hormones of the plant, and you want those bottom nugs to continue flowering.

heathaa said:

and on your last harvest the buds tasted like crap cuz you didnt flush and allow the plants to use up their stored energy.....good luck

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i highly doubt that ur buds doubled in size over a 3 day period...

Y.R. Token said:

Ok so I keep reading there are diff camps as to lights off, flushing etc.

My question: I need to harvest two ladies, most the tops look done, the lowers are a little behind. So if I do the lights off for 48 hrs to harvest (never have before-2nd harvest now) in order to chop the tops now, do I just leave the bottoms and turn the lights back on and let the lowers go longer?

Or if I do the no lights for 48 and then try to let the lowers go won't the light change fuck up the lowers and their light cycle?

Or not worry about and chop the whole thing (as long as T's are cloudy on the lowers)

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Go for it, having the lights out for 48 will not set them back and the rest will continue growing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ good advice.

heathaa said:

the lights going off for 48 hours or whatever doesnt really do anything. like guru said some people swear by it but you will get the same results. flush the plants if you havent already. take two tablespoons of molasses or syrup in a 2 liter bottle of water and water with that and let it go for another day or two. the natural sugars will feed the micros in the dirt and stimulate roots and benefits the plants greatly. when i did it the first time my buds doubled in size over 3 days so its a neat little trick

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Hummmmm if that worked everyone would do it.

heathaa said:

the lights going off for 48 hours or whatever doesnt really do anything. like guru said some people swear by it but you will get the same results. flush the plants if you havent already. take two tablespoons of molasses or syrup in a 2 liter bottle of water and water with that and let it go for another day or two. the natural sugars will feed the micros in the dirt and stimulate roots and benefits the plants greatly. when i did it the first time my buds doubled in size over 3 days so its a neat little trick

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What is does is allow the plant to move a high percentage of moisture to the roots when the lights are out and this gives you a better smoke, whether it increases potency is another question. You can see the effect of the movement of the moisture to the roots if you look in at your plants at night, the leaves are drooping.

heathaa said:

and on your last harvest the buds tasted like crap cuz you didnt flush and allow the plants to use up their stored energy.....good luck

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90% of taste is accomplished by curing correctly and even if you don't flush you can cure it right and have great smoke. There are exceptions but you really need to FU your plants to get bad smoke. IMHO. I never flush I just back the food off to 1/4. No sense starving your plant of food when it's producing resin is their.

I would have to agree with the cure process. My early smoke, was not cured just dried, so I would have some to smoke while the main harvest cured. Now that the cured buds are a few weeks into the jars and burped, it's a much smoother smoke. I'm trying to improve the flushing and harvest/cure process for this next cut down, the plants are ready now today, but they only have had one flush of clean water yesterday. I'm guessing I need to wait till they dry out and flush once more with clear water, let dry and cut down with or without the hours of extra dark.

Well I did get any more info on the flushing or lights, read a little more in other threads...... then last night my girls, they was getting all dolled up and ready for bed, had their cute little nighty's on and were waiting to be tucked in when I came in the room to check on them. There they was smelled so nice and looked real plump and juicy and gleaming in the lights and as I sat there enjoying the view of those hot chicks, I reached out and softy took a steady hand on the stock of one and then......

I chopped those bitch's damn heads off and did stop till got to the torso area....... then I strung um up!

Way cool brother. This whole flushing thing is a solution created by the industry to help bad growers be better growers by flushing their mistakes down the drain. Now what do farmers or greenhouses, gardeners do? they sure as hell don't flush. Now what a lot of people don't know is that when you flush with 100% water the easiest and first element to go is nitrogen. Now here's the rub " other elements need nitrogen to be mobile such as mag. so as soon as the N is gone you have locked other elements into your plants" You can see this in small sparks or little pops and joints that won't stay lit. If you have to flush than do it with 25% recommended food and that way you can move everything out of the plant to a reasonable level.

Do you know any thing that calls for flushing other than a toilet? Why would you starve your plants when they need the food the most to produce resin? Kind of like fasting for 2 days before running a marathon.

Any how my 2 cents worth.

Best of luck to you on your next grow.

asshol say grasshopper.... interesting point and didn't know that about the N, explains a lot on the first two plants I did and even these bitches.... thanks for the input!

I don't know why there is so much debate about the 48 hour dark period. The theory is that the plants can store up to 48 hours of daytime energy. Thus, you leave it in the dark for 48 so the plant uses all of the energy it has stored. Now, some may claim that this will increase your yield and potency and blah blah blah but the truth is that it stresses the plant into thinking it is going to die so it uses every bit of food it can get. Now, the debate should be in whether or not you should allow the plants water or give it 48 hours of light before the dark period or if you should chop in sections after the dark period. I know the OP chopped, I'm just conveying a point that most information people stand by is misinformation. There are a lot of good theories that need to be well-defined and research done into the variables. Anyway, GL and don't be hasty on the cure!