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Thundercat

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It can totally be that way some times JD. The last rig I've been working on is all done for my part. The guy I work with is going to do some work on it as well, and make it into a collaboration, so now I just gotta pray he doesn't break it, lol. I made made favorite spoon yet today. I'm actually gonna take a picture to show you guys I think.
 

Thundercat

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Thanks Jig! It didn't break, I just havn't actually uploaded the pictures onto the computer. I've actually finished 2 other rigs since that one, and that one isn't quite done just yet. I think it will be tomorrow finally. All 3 have turned out better then I could have hoped honestly. Its really fun being able to begin to translate what I am thinking about directly into form.
 

Dr.D81

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Thanks Jig! It didn't break, I just havn't actually uploaded the pictures onto the computer. I've actually finished 2 other rigs since that one, and that one isn't quite done just yet. I think it will be tomorrow finally. All 3 have turned out better then I could have hoped honestly. Its really fun being able to begin to translate what I am thinking about directly into form.
Got to get us some pics bro! I blocked my glass shop trailer up today and am rearranging my kiln and shelves as I get it wired back up
 

SomeGuy

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No sweat man. You are living life and that is awesome. If ur ever coming this way u better let me know though. I do want.to commission a rig sometime. Maybe one from each of you two skilled gentlemen. :-). I wish I had balls as big as docs. Lol. I hen I would fill my whole garage. ;-)

I know I do, I'm bad what can I say. My wife pretty much always has the phone.
 

Thundercat

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Right I'm so jealous of some of your guys new set ups. Your tent is looking bad ass SG! I really really wanna set up another light, but I don't really have the space. I might kinda be able to make the space, but my wife is REALLY against me pulling any more electicity. So I'm gonna take it in baby steps. I'm gonna upgrade my electric and get my rooms on independant circuits finally. Perhaps fanagal the extra room by moving some walls around at the same time, and then some day get another light burning when she isn't looking :).

SG you can guarantee if I make it out west I'll be getting ahold of you brother! I don't know how my wife would feel about the idea, but I would love to just take a tour of the west coast stopping off to see all you guys along the way :). Baja to portland or somthing crazy like that.

As far as glass work goes, hit me up anytime you'd like bud. We can figure something out.
 

Dr.D81

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Right I'm so jealous of some of your guys new set ups. Your tent is looking bad ass SG! I really really wanna set up another light, but I don't really have the space. I might kinda be able to make the space, but my wife is REALLY against me pulling any more electicity. So I'm gonna take it in baby steps. I'm gonna upgrade my electric and get my rooms on independant circuits finally. Perhaps fanagal the extra room by moving some walls around at the same time, and then some day get another light burning when she isn't looking :).

SG you can guarantee if I make it out west I'll be getting ahold of you brother! I don't know how my wife would feel about the idea, but I would love to just take a tour of the west coast stopping off to see all you guys along the way :). Baja to portland or somthing crazy like that.

As far as glass work goes, hit me up anytime you'd like bud. We can figure something out.
I fill you on the power in outlaw states. I had a 2k limit on myself because Louisiana has shity jails.
 

Thundercat

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Yep, I've always kept it to my 1k in flower, and i veg with cfls. I actually just had a talk with my wife about the whole thing. She is open to the idea of me taking down the 1k and putting up 2 600s, I wonder if I could just talk her into letting me put up a 600 with my 1k :). Really I would love some LED panels like Someguy has been building. I feel like I would get awesome growth and canopy coverage if I basically spread 1k watts of LED over my grow area. Sadly they are pricey so until I've got alot more money, or I find some generous doners I'll be sticking with HID for flowering.
 

SomeGuy

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Yep, I've always kept it to my 1k in flower, and i veg with cfls. I actually just had a talk with my wife about the whole thing. She is open to the idea of me taking down the 1k and putting up 2 600s, I wonder if I could just talk her into letting me put up a 600 with my 1k :). Really I would love some LED panels like Someguy has been building. I feel like I would get awesome growth and canopy coverage if I basically spread 1k watts of LED over my grow area. Sadly they are pricey so until I've got alot more money, or I find some generous doners I'll be sticking with HID for flowering.

You have skills. I can walk you through it and show you on here too. I know you could build your own cheaply. It would be worth it. Running 1k of cob would be an upgrade in lighting without the increase in electric bill. You could event build a 500w panel and then have that and 600w hid for a while.

Im running half my tent with 800w of cob but will be 1000 in a few months. Then Im running 1400 on the other side of hps. The led side does not look bad at all. LOL
 

SomeGuy

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OR even better lets build some cheap led vero10 vegg bars to replace the cfl. @Mohican can attest to thier efficacy. He is testing them. Doubt he will want to give them back. :-) Im kinda hoping he likes em that much anyway. LOL he just might need me to make him a custom panel to fit in his cupboard.
 

Thundercat

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Hehe, honestly I love my little cfls hoods that i made. I am still using my original one from over 6 years ago now. I am interested in replacing my t5 at some point though. I love the growth from it but I hate replacing bulbs every 5-6 months at $10+ a piece. I'm about to order some, I found them for like $2.75 a piece if I buy a case. Anyway LEDs would be nice there for sure.

From the growth I've seen on here from your plants SG, I'm sure I'd be pretty happy with the cob even in flower. It looks like you are getting great intensity, and coverage. I'm sure my plants would benefit from light over the whole canopy rather then just over the middle primarly. If I move around the wall I'm thinking about It would give me enough room to set up a second flower tray. The second tray would only be 2x4 rather then 4x4, but it would give me enough extra space for 20 more plants. Honestly that would also max out my clone/veg set up as well. I was kinda picturing 5-6 bars with 4-5 cob per bar to cover the space would be killer some where in the 1k-1.2k range.

As far as building them goes, your right I have some skills, but electrical is not one I'm usually comfortable with. I still havn't even put in new breakers in my house because it makes me nervous. Really I need to just suck it up watch some youtube how to videos and just do it. If I wanna be successful I need to stop making excuses and just do things. If I was to undertake building the cob bars, do you remember about what they cost to put together?
 

SomeGuy

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All depends on the parts used how expensive they are. Lots of variables. How high off the plants do you need the lights? (Headroom). This can determine how big you want to go w your chip. If you can stay 10-12" from the plants In the end of flower go w the bigger chips. I'm using a medium sized vero 18 and get good results. I think they would be better with vero 29.

Hehe, honestly I love my little cfls hoods that i made. I am still using my original one from over 6 years ago now. I am interested in replacing my t5 at some point though. I love the growth from it but I hate replacing bulbs every 5-6 months at $10+ a piece. I'm about to order some, I found them for like $2.75 a piece if I buy a case. Anyway LEDs would be nice there for sure.

From the growth I've seen on here from your plants SG, I'm sure I'd be pretty happy with the cob even in flower. It looks like you are getting great intensity, and coverage. I'm sure my plants would benefit from light over the whole canopy rather then just over the middle primarly. If I move around the wall I'm thinking about It would give me enough room to set up a second flower tray. The second tray would only be 2x4 rather then 4x4, but it would give me enough extra space for 20 more plants. Honestly that would also max out my clone/veg set up as well. I was kinda picturing 5-6 bars with 4-5 cob per bar to cover the space would be killer some where in the 1k-1.2k range.

As far as building them goes, your right I have some skills, but electrical is not one I'm usually comfortable with. I still havn't even put in new breakers in my house because it makes me nervous. Really I need to just suck it up watch some youtube how to videos and just do it. If I wanna be successful I need to stop making excuses and just do things. If I was to undertake building the cob bars, do you remember about what they cost to put together?
 

Javadog

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I really think that COBs fit with Veg needs in every way, very well.

I will get some time and dough and then I will revisit this.

TC, how critical is changing HOT-5 bulbs?

My 4' bulbs must be on their second or third year....
 

Thundercat

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All depends on the parts used how expensive they are. Lots of variables. How high off the plants do you need the lights? (Headroom). This can determine how big you want to go w your chip. If you can stay 10-12" from the plants In the end of flower go w the bigger chips. I'm using a medium sized vero 18 and get good results. I think they would be better with vero 29.
I currently have my 1k about 12 inchs from my canopy. I have room to raise or lower it some depending on if some plants end up a little big. I currently know nothing about the various numbers or anything involved in building one honestly. There is the led(is that the panel), a driver and a heat sink for each unit is that right? If I were to undertake this project I can say 100% I want the best option as long as it was within a reasonable cost. So if the vero 29s aren't an ass load more but will provide more penetration/coverage, I want to do this once if I do it. I can't afford for it not to work. I need to build a system that will absolutely yield the same or better then my 1k.
 
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