Thought this was vertical..2000 watt

nick17gar · Jan 4, 2012

yea im impressed on the room set up, seems like a lot of plants in a small space, i wonder tho if you could have 1/2 the plants, topped, and still come out with the same yield tho, perhaps not in set up tho.

that last post your saying 3 weeks veg, 3 weeks 12/12, 3 weeks 10/14... tahts 9 weeks, 2 months start to (close to) finish isnt bad at all, i guess thats a plus with a bunch of smaller plants. perhaps ill try this out

cowell · Jan 4, 2012

nick17gar said:
yea im impressed on the room set up, seems like a lot of plants in a small space, i wonder tho if you could have 1/2 the plants, topped, and still come out with the same yield tho, perhaps not in set up tho.

that last post your saying 3 weeks veg, 3 weeks 12/12, 3 weeks 10/14... tahts 9 weeks, 2 months start to (close to) finish isnt bad at all, i guess thats a plus with a bunch of smaller plants. perhaps ill try this out

Thanks nick-
bottom row are bigger topped plants that vegged for 3 months. I also have clones that vegged for 3 weeks, and some straight from rooted clone, the whole point was so I can quickly figure out what sizes fit best in this set up, and I can set up my clone schedual to make sure I have plants to go into flower... there are only 3 plants on the bottom row.. the rest all have between 5-7. I can veg for any amount of time.. I went 5 weeks 12/12. and have been on 10/14 for a week now.. harvest in 2 weeks. that will be 3 weeks of 10/14, and 5 weeks of 12/12... 8.

What I was referring about "3 weeks - blah blah".. was that I have noticed is 3 weeks seems to be the amount of time it usually takes for major changes to show in MJ.. not anything to do with my grow though... just that 3 weeks of 10/14 might be enough time for you to force results from pushing the daylight hours into a point that it would seem to the plant that it was in the last stages of developement, and rush to adapt to it's environment.. that's more of a theory based on my own understanding of how things may work from what I've done and seen.

hazeynights · Jan 6, 2012

ya ive read about the 10/14, it definitely reduces flowering time because it starts going into survival mode, however i heard it down lower your yield because they get less time to grow.

cowell · Jan 6, 2012

hazeynights said:
ya ive read about the 10/14, it definitely reduces flowering time because it starts going into survival mode, however i heard it down lower your yield because they get less time to grow.

That kinda what I was thinking - makes sence to me too. But you are only finishing it a week early.. I am likely going to lose a little weight, but if you get an extra crop a year out of it... That's the kind of trade off I'm into.

My camera is screwed up - hopefully I can get a replacement within the next couple weeks so I can finish taking update and final pics.. First "journal type thing" I've actually updated along the way, so I'd like to make sure I finish this one - stay tuned.

siltman65 · Jan 6, 2012

pLEASE LET US KNOW THE PARTICULARS ON BUILDING THIS SETUP! sorry about the caps...

cowell · Jan 6, 2012

Sure man..

what do you want to know about it? I'll give you details, but where do you want me to start?

MrStickyScissors · Jan 6, 2012

I think your yield would be affected if you switch to 10/14 to early thats they key. wait tell they build and are chunky use the 10/14 to ripen

LIVE2GRO · Jan 9, 2012

has anyone switched from normal to vertical.. and seen a huge increase in yield or what?? id like to switch but.. i need to see and know for a fact that it wll yield more i cant afford to yield less..

Clown Baby · Jan 9, 2012

you can yield more if you do it right.
google heath robinson.

he's got a lot of vertical grows and they all seem to black 1g/watt outta the water

MrStickyScissors · Jan 9, 2012

i sitll think if you if you put your plants around a light your still only getting light to one side of the plant instead of ontop of it. I was thinking about a vertical setup but iv been pulling close to 2 pounds per 4x4 table just growing 32 plants in one gallon pots under two 600's per table.

cowell · Jan 9, 2012

You won't yeild less.

Check out Heath Robinson's grow journals, and jigfresh, and clown baby.. just names of guys I can think of off the top of my head that have completed journals already to let you know what they pulled off their set ups.

This grow isn't dialed in at all, there's been quite a few factors that should be effecting my crop, and while it is, I'm still going to grunt out a bigger harvest than I normally would get. How much? don't know yet.. check back in about 3 weeks and I should have my weight posted.

cowell · Jan 9, 2012

MrStickyScissors said:
i sitll think if you if you put your plants around a light your still only getting light to one side of the plant instead of ontop of it. I was thinking about a vertical setup but iv been pulling close to 2 pounds per 4x4 table just growing 32 plants in one gallon pots under two 600's per table.

You're forgetting about a few factors - HID will penetrate 2 feet of foliage.. my plants are smallerthan that thick, so the entire plant is getting light, I have noticed most of the bud sites have stretched around to the side of the plant closest to the light anyway.

In this round I have figured out spacing and how to better manage this set up.. I will be putting 5 plants in each box, 4 levels high, all the way around the lights. So I will have 80 plants around 2000 watts. The plants I vegged for 3 weeks are looking awesome.. These are the ones that will give me over an ounce per plant, no problem..and I'm upping veg time by a week when I move - so 80 ounces will be my benchmark once I get into a space I can at least control temps from going from 106-6 over the course of a night.

You do what works man.. that's a great return. I'll likely be sticking with 4x4 space for 2000 watts. Once I get it dialed in you may want to change your mind.. but if you're pulling more with less light than I have.. who am I to advise you any differently. I just see some good potential with this style of growing enough that I can invest some time trying to get it right... and when I do - I'm sure I'll be a cappy hamper

MrStickyScissors · Jan 9, 2012

cowell said:
You're forgetting about a few factors - HID will penetrate 2 feet of foliage.. my plants are smallerthan that thick, so the entire plant is getting light, I have noticed most of the bud sites have stretched around to the side of the plant closest to the light anyway.

In this round I have figured out spacing and how to better manage this set up.. I will be putting 5 plants in each box, 4 levels high, all the way around the lights. So I will have 80 plants around 2000 watts. The plants I vegged for 3 weeks are looking awesome.. These are the ones that will give me over an ounce per plant, no problem..and I'm upping veg time by a week when I move - so 80 ounces will be my benchmark once I get into a space I can at least control temps from going from 106-6 over the course of a night.

You do what works man.. that's a great return. I'll likely be sticking with 4x4 space for 2000 watts. Once I get it dialed in you may want to change your mind.. but if you're pulling more with less light than I have.. who am I to advise you any differently. I just see some good potential with this style of growing enough that I can invest some time trying to get it right... and when I do - I'm sure I'll be a cappy hamper

well you will be pulling way more than me if you are getting 80 zips off 2,000 watts. thats just gangster. I just really dont have the drive to do a vertical set up. Im to greedy i geuss you could say all the sapce I can get I thro more lights lol. or maybe i just dont understand it. I would like to see sum pics of all the bud that comes off your setup that would be bad ass if you got that much wieght

cowell · Jan 9, 2012

not really... you are already pulling 2 lbs from 1200 watts.. If I can pull 5 lbs then I am doing better than you.. if I'm doing 5 lbs a month.. I am afraid I won't have time to be your friend anymore

Like I'll send Xmas card or something

And we like to be called "gangsta's".. like with the "a" on the end...it's not "cool" unless you do it that way. You can grow weed, but where's your hood skillz SS? Mod.. :roll:

MrStickyScissors · Jan 10, 2012

cowell said:
not really... you are already pulling 2 lbs from 1200 watts.. If I can pull 5 lbs then I am doing better than you.. if I'm doing 5 lbs a month.. I am afraid I won't have time to be your friend anymore

Like I'll send Xmas card or something

And we like to be called "gangsta's".. like with the "a" on the end...it's not "cool" unless you do it that way. You can grow weed, but where's your hood skillz SS? Mod..

lol yeah I dont put a "a" at the end of anything im a white boy. when i say mother fucker not motha fucka lol

cowell · Jan 10, 2012

MrStickyScissors said:
lol yeah I dont put a "a" at the end of anything im a white boy. when i say mother fucker not motha fucka lol

lol. I'm a craker too honkey! Don't mean you can't have mad skillz though.

Beansly · Jan 10, 2012

cowell said:
lol. I'm a craker too honkey! Don't mean you can't have mad skillz though.

Putting a's in place of 'er' and z's instead of 'S's' is LAMEEEEEEEE :fire:

What up sticky? I was just think about you during the holidays man. I was hoping you weren't locked up on Christmas and shit. Hope things are real chill style for you right now bro. Stay sticky.

cowell · Jan 10, 2012

Beansly said:
Putting a's in place of 'er' and z's instead of 'S's' is LAMEEEEEEEE

What up sticky? I was just think about you during the holidays man. I was hoping you weren't locked up on Christmas and shit. Hope things are real chill style for you right now bro. Stay sticky.

I guess you didn't read into the fact I was just joking around.. that's ok, I don't expect much from you Brits :hug:

MrStickyScissors · Jan 10, 2012

Beansly said:
Putting a's in place of 'er' and z's instead of 'S's' is LAMEEEEEEEE

What up sticky? I was just think about you during the holidays man. I was hoping you weren't locked up on Christmas and shit. Hope things are real chill style for you right now bro. Stay sticky.

no still fighting my case. was on here checking out cowells vertical setup. I need to make my way to vegas before i go to jail and try and win a million and fuk sum hookers

KUShSOurSMOKEr · Jan 10, 2012

nice sticky glad u aint locked

hope all is well man! hope all ur krypto is still burnin!

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