This is what we should do to legalize it

I have an idea about what legalizing marijuana could do. If it were legalized, to be able to grow it and sell it should be the same as tobacco, have to have a license to be able to, sell it in liquor stores only, must be 21 to purchase and use, stiff penalties to people buying for minors, taxed at twice the tax rate for tobacco. Not only would we save billions in ending prohibition, but also creating millions in new tax revenue. They say they can't tax this plant, but they sure do tax the hell out of anther plant, tobacco.

Its called a "sin tax" its why lotto, cigs, booze, and the like are taxed because they are "bad". I'll pay uncle sam some doh to let me legally smoke.

No kidding nobody deserves to spend so much as 1 night in jail for safely imbibing or growing pot, Nobody. Its a travesty, at worst its a medical problem not a crime. Just another excuse for a police state.

I've seen the effects of alcohol abuse and I will tell you from what I've seen Its far worse. Alcohol can ruin lives I should have a brother/sister now 2 years younger then me. Dads an Alcoholic beats mom kills fetus. If dad had smoked a couple bowls before he got home instead, I bet, that would never have happened. Now my dad, who I still love, has had cancer has a swollen liver, conjestive heart failure, diabetise and lookes like crap. I can't believe this is the same man I idalized as a child. This is a man who wheighed in at 300lbs 6'2'' broad shoulders barrel chested worked 16 hours a day in a cotten gen has sucked up to 165lbs with thin little legs and arms and a huge hard belly. Hes only like 55 years old hes sucked up. Alcohol ...

His Sister, my Aunt, has been smokin' bud for ...shit maybe 30 years. Only problem with her is she smokes allot. She is fun to be with She lauphs and talks, unlike my Dad.

In short Its no worse than Alcohol, and I don't think Alcohol should be illigel either.

Yeah, I'd pay the tax for it.

I'd rather be able to legally grow my own, or hell just go to a store and purchase it.

I don't trust most dealers especially ones who sell actually drugs. I once bought a sak laced with meth I was going to grind it and found a big crystal in the bag.

I don't do shit like that and I want nothing to do with it. Weed isn't a drug and shouldn't be treated like one.

williamthebloody said:

I have an idea about what legalizing marijuana could do. If it were legalized, to be able to grow it and sell it should be the same as tobacco, have to have a license to be able to, sell it in liquor stores only, must be 21 to purchase and use, stiff penalties to people buying for minors, taxed at twice the tax rate for tobacco. Not only would we save billions in ending prohibition, but also creating millions in new tax revenue. They say they can't tax this plant, but they sure do tax the hell out of anther plant, tobacco.

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Have a read through this thread. There are some interesting thoughts on this subject:

https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/133817-if-we-legalize-ill-need.html

What ever happened to overgrow the government? is this dead?

diemdepyro said:

What ever happened to overgrow the government? is this dead?

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No, the Revolution has started. It's just moving slowly.

I'm old and I would have never thought this prohibition would have continued this long.

Its a problem when big drugmakers feel as if 20% of the drug (pharmaceutical)sales will stop on day 1 of the new deal.

We need cash paid lobbyists like the drug companies.
Or...we need to overgrow the government. For real
not the players starting a cannabiz then bailing on our asses

How did they put that prop.8 thing on the ballot?
Can you not try the same for weedz

The problem is that the odor and smell of the plant is great and ought to be legal (and to cook with). As for accepting it as a smoking products i don`t think the governments ever will. I like smoking as much as anyone else might like tobacco. I hate tobacco make that illegal make people grow their own.

Weed has been illegal for a long time now and the roots of greed (on both sides of the law) are deep..... take the money away from weed and it will stand a much higher chance of becoming legal. Otherwise, don't hold your breath. Don't look now, we are our own worst enemy..



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All people would in fact love the the job gardening a expensive sweet odor plant which is general done with no hard labor gardening in a warm humid environment... That person has this lovely scent on the mind all day and sells it on a large scale cheaply using large economies scales making cheaper to buy than growing it between friends.

Keep weed illegal so my friends and I can keep making easy untaxed money!! WOOT illegal weed rules!! WOOT!!

legalization would do the following
1) save over $30 billion per year in enforcement and incarceration costs
2) generate over $100 billion per year assuming taxes make up for price changes to keep price at todays street level (and assuming no change in consumption)
3) free hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our prison system--providing wage income of $50 billion per year
4) reduce violent crimes by 50% (criminals have comparative advantage on the black market and make immense profits, empowering them instead of legitimate businesses or the govt)
5) reduce teen use via access laws
6) reduce the gateway effect by having controlled marijuana dispensers (like coffee shops)
7) reduce alcohol consumption, thus savings lives and money
reduce deforestation by providing a highly renewable and sustainable alternative
9) reduce pollution by same means as above in other industries
10) help AIDS, cancer, anorexia and bulimia patients receive the treatment they need
11)allow for the development of the hemp industry

ask me if u want sources..i just finished a research paper on the topic

I wish I was the Prez!!

smithb63 said:

I wish I was the Prez!!

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Well the qualification bar had been dropped preciptously in the last elction. You may be our next prez. ....



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Personally I don't buy the notion that if it were legal everyone would simply grow their own. Alcohol, once illegal, can be brewed at home and while many people do, most people don't.

Growing takes time and money and I think most people would prefer the convenience of going to a coffee house and simply purchasing it. Just like liquor stores and bars, some people would buy and go home to smoke, while others would hang out at the coffee house and socialize with other tokers.

I'm not really sure what would happen to the prices.... but I don't believe they would drop significantly because it costs money to grow good mj and takes time. Alcohol isn't cheap, well some is, but the good stuff still fetches a good price and the industry makes bazillions. I think many of us have this notion that EVERYONE will simply grow it..... but I'm not too sure about that. Sure many may jump into growing.... but ultimately I think most would simply prefer to skip the work and simply drive to the store to purchase it.

One thing for sure..... I don't think it should be regulated to sales in liquor stores... if anything I'd rather see it in sold in it's own stores (coffee houses if you will). This would provide the opportunity for new businesses and jobs. I just don't want to see our friend tied to the liquor industry in any way.

Anyway... that's my 2 cents

LEGALIZE IT.... I'll be the first in my town to line up for a license to open a coffee house

All good points, respect to Eric and Florida (if I can give 2).
I personally think that there should be companies who are based in certain 3rd world countries, where the buds are grown organically, outdoors by local residents (they could also grow hemp). Kind of like the fair trade thing. I've not really thought that part through, however with some careful planning, weed farming could be the beginning of the end of world poverty.
Or maybe that's my high thoughts
Or maybe that

Wild said:

All good points, respect to Eric and Florida (if I can give 2).
I personally think that there should be companies who are based in certain 3rd world countries, where the buds are grown organically, outdoors by local residents (they could also grow hemp). Kind of like the fair trade thing. I've not really thought that part through, however with some careful planning, weed farming could be the beginning of the end of world poverty.
Or maybe that's my high thoughts
Or maybe that

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We already do that with heroin.......




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I'm with FL girl, don't tie it in with alcohol. It needs to stay seperate. I like the coffee house idea too.

If it were legal, a lot of people would start out by trying to grow their own, but the majority will lose interest through failing, lack of knowlege and they won't want to wait the amount of time it take to get a good harvest. That's when sales steps in.

One way to step towards legalization, how about all politicians need to start taking random drug and alcohol tests? Let's stick some asses on the line that aren't ours.