This is the thread to tell us how Obama has made things worse for you

Red1966

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there wouldn't have been a health program.

i have health insurance as a direct result of obama.
There was a health program long before Obama was even born. I wonder how you'll feel when you are forced to pay back the illegal subsidy you got.
 

Red1966

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None of this has personally negativly affected you at all
Everyone else's tax bills and insurance premiums went up to support the subsidies, so you are clearly wrong. On a side note, the deductibles have gone up so high that people are foregoing needed medical care. Enough that total healthcare spending is dropping, even as medical costs continue to rise.
 

ChesusRice

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Everyone else's tax bills and insurance premiums went up to support the subsidies, so you are clearly wrong. On a side note, the deductibles have gone up so high that people are foregoing needed medical care. Enough that total healthcare spending is dropping, even as medical costs continue to rise.
My wife underwrites health care policy's.
Don't speak about that you don't know
 

UncleBuck

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Everyone else's tax bills and insurance premiums went up to support the subsidies, so you are clearly wrong. On a side note, the deductibles have gone up so high that people are foregoing needed medical care. Enough that total healthcare spending is dropping, even as medical costs continue to rise.
premiums are growing slower now than they have in decades, actually.

you are so full of shit that it hurts.
 

ChesusRice

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No, maximum contributions the healthcare savings plans have been reduced. So it is you who is full of shit.
You can put 2500 in. Carry over 500 which you couldn't do before.
There is 6000 out of pocket maximum which never existed before and you still have hsas available
 

Red1966

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You can put 2500 in. Carry over 500 which you couldn't do before.
There is 6000 out of pocket maximum which never existed before and you still have hsas available
I previously had a $1600 out of pocket maximum, so lets not pretend that is an improvement. The $6000 you speak of isn't the out of pocket maximum, but the deductible, meaning you will pay out $6000 before you get a dime of insurance money. So pretty much the opposite of what you claim.
 

Red1966

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HRAs have no limit.
Health Reimbursement Accounts or Health Reimbursement Arrangements (HRAs) are Internal Revenue Service (IRS)-sanctioned employer-funded, tax-advantaged employer health benefit plans. So, nothing similar at all. And mostly disappearing entirely due to the ACA
 
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