This is PBS

BudMcLovin

Active Member
i would say freedom and liberty have been under attack in an effort from all kinds of political leaning people to quash anyone who doesnt agree with them/people they hate because of their own political opinions and views. they all use the same bullshit excuses, safety of the people and all that for example.

and even before it gets to washington they view as their money, not ours, just like they view it as their government, not ours. they serve their own interests, not ours. they tend to think and act as though we are here to work for them, not the other way around.

i blame the politicians, the government is fine, they're just abusing it and distorting it into something it should never be. i also blame the people who fall for their propaganda and never bother thinking for themselves. they just hear a 5 second blurb on the news and then base an entire opinion on a sound bite that is usually taken out of context/edited so people can hear what someone else wants them to hear.
agreed great post.
 
Bottom line we need a public broadcasting system to deliver non biased news. Not fox news not msnbc news but real news.
so far the closest you'll get is the internet. who wants to watch corporate news channels anyway?

i think the best idea to learn about what goes on is to see the story from as many perspectives as possible and then form an opinion based on a variety of view points. at least then you have a better chance of understanding what it going on though it's not a guarantee you'll get the full story even then.

but i think the internet is the best place to get all these view points. everyone has something to say and more often than not they say it online. screw the news on TV.
 
I would be anxious to hear some of your personal success stories with making the world a better place.

we spend hundreds of dollars monthly to care for animals abandoned by careless, callous, thoughtless human beings that thought they could discard living creatures on a whim on the street. our house is literally an animal shelter. and we've been doing this for over 10 years and probably will not stop ever doing this.

not that it's your business but it's one of the things we do on a regular basis. have i now justified myself enough to you?
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
These things are paid for by us and are there for us..
We fund a very small portion of (exact numbers are difficult to ascertain as it is convoluted) NPR's budget. NPR, through its own admission says they don't need or even want that money
Problem solved !

Although at times I do disagree with what you say I must admit you speak from a point of view of TRUE peace and freedom...unfortunately we leave on a planet were as some people are not as caring and helpful as yourself so sometimes a little force of kindness is necessary..
A little force of kindness? Like incarceration type force?

BTW, Ernst - read the article a bit closer, I think you will find that Mr. Ron Schiller is the gentleman that made the racial/disparaging statements. Ms Vivian Schiller (whom is not related to Ron Schiller) being the captain of the ship, accepted responsibility of what happened on her watch & stepped down.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
we spend hundreds of dollars monthly to care for animals abandoned by careless, callous, thoughtless human beings that thought they could discard living creatures on a whim on the street. our house is literally an animal shelter. and we've been doing this for over 10 years and probably will not stop ever doing this.

not that it's your business but it's one of the things we do on a regular basis. have i now justified myself enough to you?

You do not need to justify yourself to me, nice job by the way. When we follow our heart and do things voluntarily to help others that's good, I commend you.

If I can know that I am achieving good thru peaceful means I have all the justification I need, if I were trying to achieve good thru forceful means it woud not lead to lasting peace though...think about it.
 
You do not need to justify yourself to me, nice job by the way. When we follow our heart and do things voluntarily to help others that's good, I commend you.

If I can know that I am achieving good thru peaceful means I have all the justification I need, if I were trying to achieve good thru forceful means it woud not lead to lasting peace though...think about it.
i know what you're saying but i cant live within society and try to decide what i want my tax money to go to. it's just a fact. if i thought i could disappear into the ether and live out in the country on my own i would. i dont like society in general as the priorities people have now are wrong and backwards, they value shallow things over things that help others and improve the world around us. but for the time being i have to conform to society at least in part, it doesnt mean i like it or agree with it. i just live with the reality of the here and now with the hope of it being different later on in my life.
 

HarryCarey

Well-Known Member
Yes society today in mean hearted and shallow, if only people would follow the old adage of treat people the way you want to be treated. I have also housed a few, while not homeless, people without a current place to stay and if everyone was as tuned in as you guys then the world wouldn't need gov,t. But sadly the majority of people out there are incredibly selfish and/or fucked up.
 
Yes society today in mean hearted and shallow, if only people would follow the old adage of treat people the way you want to be treated. I have also housed a few, while not homeless, people without a current place to stay and if everyone was as tuned in as you guys then the world wouldn't need gov,t. But sadly the majority of people out there are incredibly selfish and/or fucked up.
i think it's one of the huge reasons why people think the government should provide welfare and such, we refuse to give to charity and help our fellow man. there was a time you didnt have to lock your door at night, people would bring you home for dinner, churches would feed you and clothe you. communities looked out for each other and took care of each other. now people dont give a damn about their own neighbors and rarely spend as much time with their family as people did decades ago. there's a real disconnect among americans that really angers me i'll be damned if i know how to fix it. i can only do what i think is right and hope others follow the example.
 

HarryCarey

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Exactly, if people at a local level cared for their neighbors and the area n general there would be no more need for govt social programs as we as communities would have already taken care of it already. I dont think this will ever happen but it sounds nice

But at some point in America we reached a point where the conning, coniving, out for themselves population outpaced the compassionate, responsible, and working population.
 
Exactly, if people at a local level cared for their neighbors and the area n general there would be no more need for govt social programs as we as communities would have already taken care of it already. I dont think this will ever happen but it sounds nice

But at some point in America we reached a point where the conning, coniving, out for themselves population outpaced the compassionate, responsible, and working population.
i have spent most of my life helping others when i really didnt have the means to help others because i felt it was the right thing to do regardless. it's what i would want someone to do for me. i've sheltered people, feed people and done for people but never expected a thanks. i know when a person is grateful for what you give them when they have little or nothing to begin with. i've also been on the receiving end of such actions so i know how it works on both ends.

it's the matter of at least trying and refusing to turn a blind eye when so many others do. your actions could be the thing that restores the faith of someone in humanity changing how they view the world. such an impact on another human being is what its about. people are just taught to expect and demand from others because thats what they see on TV, to "go for theirs" and to think it's ok to ignore the plight of others. we share this planet, it doesnt belong to us and material possessions are not the end all be all in your life and should never be. but this is what society has turned into, materialistic and disconnected from everyone else thanks to all the things they distract themselves with. i guess it's easier than facing up to the truth of our own actions for some people.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
i think the idea behind PBS is great. but we live in a different time right now.

public broadcasting was invented at a time when FM radio was the most advanced thing in the world....
 

HarryCarey

Well-Known Member
Ya people in business used to be like this until things were corporatized and the local level was basically abolished. Character was measured by how helpful to society one was, now it is measured by how quickly one can rise to the top thru a corrupt process of ass kissing, stealing ideas, and backstabbing
 
i think the idea behind PBS is great. but we live in a different time right now.

public broadcasting was invented at a time when FM radio was the most advanced thing in the world....
so sesame street which at it's core teaches kids things like math and reading for example are outdated and we dont need these things any more?

i completely think PBS is an important learning tool as kids dont learn from regular cartoons. it's too bad mr rogers is gone, his show while corny to many was still an awesome show for a lot of kids who grew up watching him.

i think walking away from the things that teach the basics to kids do our future generations a great disservice. PBS has done more good than regular TV ever has or will. never dismiss what PBS has done for us.
 

HarryCarey

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If only we could stop Government.. I think we would stop the Wars. and instead of shipping 2 billion a week out of the Country we would invest in America.

No problem.. I am riding the wave of the days events right with everyone but it is interesting how working people are against working people.
I have Bogo here and that is almost amphetamine so it's rather up. Some say it's teeth grinding but i find it to be a clear and really up lift.. It's an Indica too. I am the breeder of Bogo, Turloco and the Tiki-jo lines. None which are officially released yet.. Medical in California?
So we agree we need to stop govt expansion? No, Med in MT
 

keifcake

Well-Known Member
Right on......

Ya people in business used to be like this until things were corporatized and the local level was basically abolished. Character was measured by how helpful to society one was, now it is measured by how quickly one can rise to the top thru a corrupt process of ass kissing, stealing ideas, and backstabbing
 

secretweapon

Active Member
i think the idea behind PBS is great. but we live in a different time right now.

public broadcasting was invented at a time when FM radio was the most advanced thing in the world....
There is a lot of truth to this, I agree
But not everyone has a computer/smart phone, if you don't you really should imo,
It's just giving the general public access to news when ever just by turning on a radio (which everyone has, or can get for almost nothing)
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
There is a lot of truth to this, I agree
But not everyone has a computer/smart phone, if you don't you really should imo,
It's just giving the general public access to news when ever just by turning on a radio (which everyone has, or can get for almost nothing)
or if you're mcgyver then you can just hotwire one together out of an extension chord, 2 potatoes, and a single ipod earbud.....
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
I don't know if anyone notice while giving their PBS eulogy, but out of their very mouths they said Govt funding wasn't necessary for PBS to thrive.
Big bird will still be around even without us throwing bread crumbs to him. :-P
 

Ernst

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i think the idea behind PBS is great. but we live in a different time right now.

public broadcasting was invented at a time when FM radio was the most advanced thing in the world....

I am going to cut and paste Wikipedia.. another publicly supported resource.

Public Broadcasting Service

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
"PBS" redirects here. For other uses, see PBS (disambiguation).
PBS Type Broadcast television network Country United States Availability Nationwide Slogan Be more Key people Paula Kerger, President and CEO[1] Launch date October 5, 1970 Former names National Educational Television (1952–1970) Picture format 480i/480p/576i (SD)
720p/1080i (HD) Official Website www.pbs.org The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is an American non-profit public broadcasting television service with 354 member TV stations in the United States which hold collective ownership.[2] Its headquarters are in Arlington, Virginia.
PBS is the most prominent provider of programming to U.S. public television stations, distributing series such as PBS NewsHour, Masterpiece, and Frontline. Since the mid-2000s, Roper polls commissioned by PBS have consistently placed the service as America's most trusted national institution.[3] However, PBS is not responsible for all programming carried on public TV stations; in fact, stations usually receive a large portion of their content (including most pledge drive specials) from third-party sources, such as American Public Television, NETA, WTTW National Productions and independent producers. This distinction is a frequent source of viewer confusion.[4]
PBS also has a subsidiary called National Datacast (NDI), which offers datacasting services via member stations. This helps PBS and its member stations earn extra revenue.



PBS logo (October 4, 1971 to September 30, 1984)


PBS was founded on October 5, 1970, at which time it took over many of the functions of its predecessor, National Educational Television (NET), which later merged with station WNDT, Newark, New Jersey, to form WNET.[5] In 1973, it merged with Educational Television Stations.
Unlike the model of America's commercial television networks, in which affiliates give up portions of their local advertising airtime in exchange for network programming, PBS member stations pay substantial fees for the shows acquired and distributed by the national organization.
This relationship means that PBS member stations have greater latitude in local scheduling than their commercial counterparts. Scheduling of PBS-distributed series may vary greatly from market to market. This can be a source of tension as stations seek to preserve their localism and PBS strives to market a consistent national line-up. However, PBS has a policy of "common carriage" requiring most stations to clear the national prime time programs on a common schedule, so that they can be more effectively marketed on a national basis.
Unlike its radio counterpart, National Public Radio, PBS has no central program production arm or news department. All of the programming carried by PBS, whether news, documentary, or entertainment, is created by (or in most cases produced under contract with) other parties, such as individual member stations. WGBH in Boston is one of the largest producers of educational programming, including American Experience, Masterpiece Theater, Nova, Antiques Roadshow and Frontline, as well as many other children's and lifestyle shows. News programs are produced by WETA-TV in Washington, D.C., WNET in New York and WPBT in Miami. The Charlie Rose interview show, Secrets of the Dead, NOW on PBS, Nature, Cyberchase, and The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer come from or through WNET in New York. Once a program is offered to and accepted by PBS for distribution, PBS (and not the member station that supplied the program) retains exclusive rights for rebroadcasts during the period for which such rights were granted; the suppliers do maintain the right to sell the program in non-broadcast media such as DVDs, books, and sometimes PBS licensed merchandise (but sometimes grant such ancillary rights as well to PBS).
PBS stations are commonly operated by non-profit organizations, state agencies, local authorities (e.g., municipal boards of education), or universities in their community of license. In some states, PBS stations throughout the entire state may be organized into a single regional "subnetwork" (e.g., Alabama Public Television). Unlike public broadcasters in most other countries, PBS does not own any of the stations that broadcast its programming. (i.e., there are no PBS O&Os anywhere in the country) This is partly due to the origins of the PBS stations themselves, and partly due to historical license issues.
In the modern broadcast marketplace, this organizational structure is considered outmoded by some media critics.[citation needed] A common restructuring proposal is to reorganize the network so that each state would have one PBS member which would broadcast state-wide. However, this proposal is controversial, as it would reduce local community input into PBS programming, especially considering how PBS stations are significantly more community-oriented, according to the argument, than their commercial counterparts.
In 1994, The Chronicle of Philanthropy, an industry publication, released the results of the largest study of charitable and non-profit organization popularity and credibility conducted by Nye Lavalle & Associates. The study showed that PBS was ranked as the 11th "most popular charity/non-profit in America from over 100 charities researched with 38.2% of Americans over the age of 12 choosing Love and Like A Lot for PBS.[6][7][8][9]
In December 2009, PBS signed up for the Nielsen ratings for the first time.[10]

 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
i think the idea behind PBS is great. but we live in a different time right now.

public broadcasting was invented at a time when FM radio was the most advanced thing in the world....

I am going to cut and paste Wikipedia.. another publicly supported resource.

Public Broadcasting Service

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
"PBS" redirects here. For other uses, see PBS (disambiguation).
PBS Type Broadcast television network Country United States Availability Nationwide Slogan Be more Key people Paula Kerger, President and CEO[1] Launch date October 5, 1970 Former names National Educational Television (1952–1970) Picture format 480i/480p/576i (SD)
720p/1080i (HD) Official Website www.pbs.org The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is an American non-profit public broadcasting television service with 354 member TV stations in the United States which hold collective ownership.[2] Its headquarters are in Arlington, Virginia.
PBS is the most prominent provider of programming to U.S. public television stations, distributing series such as PBS NewsHour, Masterpiece, and Frontline. Since the mid-2000s, Roper polls commissioned by PBS have consistently placed the service as America's most trusted national institution.[3] However, PBS is not responsible for all programming carried on public TV stations; in fact, stations usually receive a large portion of their content (including most pledge drive specials) from third-party sources, such as American Public Television, NETA, WTTW National Productions and independent producers. This distinction is a frequent source of viewer confusion.[4]
PBS also has a subsidiary called National Datacast (NDI), which offers datacasting services via member stations. This helps PBS and its member stations earn extra revenue.



PBS logo (October 4, 1971 to September 30, 1984)


PBS was founded on October 5, 1970, at which time it took over many of the functions of its predecessor, National Educational Television (NET), which later merged with station WNDT, Newark, New Jersey, to form WNET.[5] In 1973, it merged with Educational Television Stations.
Unlike the model of America's commercial television networks, in which affiliates give up portions of their local advertising airtime in exchange for network programming, PBS member stations pay substantial fees for the shows acquired and distributed by the national organization.
This relationship means that PBS member stations have greater latitude in local scheduling than their commercial counterparts. Scheduling of PBS-distributed series may vary greatly from market to market. This can be a source of tension as stations seek to preserve their localism and PBS strives to market a consistent national line-up. However, PBS has a policy of "common carriage" requiring most stations to clear the national prime time programs on a common schedule, so that they can be more effectively marketed on a national basis.
Unlike its radio counterpart, National Public Radio, PBS has no central program production arm or news department. All of the programming carried by PBS, whether news, documentary, or entertainment, is created by (or in most cases produced under contract with) other parties, such as individual member stations. WGBH in Boston is one of the largest producers of educational programming, including American Experience, Masterpiece Theater, Nova, Antiques Roadshow and Frontline, as well as many other children's and lifestyle shows. News programs are produced by WETA-TV in Washington, D.C., WNET in New York and WPBT in Miami. The Charlie Rose interview show, Secrets of the Dead, NOW on PBS, Nature, Cyberchase, and The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer come from or through WNET in New York. Once a program is offered to and accepted by PBS for distribution, PBS (and not the member station that supplied the program) retains exclusive rights for rebroadcasts during the period for which such rights were granted; the suppliers do maintain the right to sell the program in non-broadcast media such as DVDs, books, and sometimes PBS licensed merchandise (but sometimes grant such ancillary rights as well to PBS).
PBS stations are commonly operated by non-profit organizations, state agencies, local authorities (e.g., municipal boards of education), or universities in their community of license. In some states, PBS stations throughout the entire state may be organized into a single regional "subnetwork" (e.g., Alabama Public Television). Unlike public broadcasters in most other countries, PBS does not own any of the stations that broadcast its programming. (i.e., there are no PBS O&Os anywhere in the country) This is partly due to the origins of the PBS stations themselves, and partly due to historical license issues.
In the modern broadcast marketplace, this organizational structure is considered outmoded by some media critics.[citation needed] A common restructuring proposal is to reorganize the network so that each state would have one PBS member which would broadcast state-wide. However, this proposal is controversial, as it would reduce local community input into PBS programming, especially considering how PBS stations are significantly more community-oriented, according to the argument, than their commercial counterparts.
In 1994, The Chronicle of Philanthropy, an industry publication, released the results of the largest study of charitable and non-profit organization popularity and credibility conducted by Nye Lavalle & Associates. The study showed that PBS was ranked as the 11th "most popular charity/non-profit in America from over 100 charities researched with 38.2% of Americans over the age of 12 choosing Love and Like A Lot for PBS.[6][7][8][9]
In December 2009, PBS signed up for the Nielsen ratings for the first time.[10]

 
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