They wont burn will they?

dabig

Member
Hi folks!
Mixed up my first batch of supersoil a month ago and just transplanted into it. I was reading some folks saying 30 days was not long enough to cook... Seems most are using more then I did, I figured I would use less the first run and add juice at the end if needed. I went from 3 gallons into 5 gallon smarties as that is what I have on hand right now.(saving up for 7 or 10 gallon smarties) I only just made a dish of super soil at the bottom 3-4 inches tall, placing the 3 gallon root ball in the center and filling the edges and top with 707. I figure I have no more then 20-30% SS. Should I be worried about any burn given that the SS only cooked for 30 days and is less then 30%? Thanks for the help.

p.s. waiting on some vortex and jilly bean packs from the Tude. I am currently running Cannalope Haze, OG13, Pineapple chunk, Kandy Kush and Liberty Haze.
 

Oriah

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No, if you mixed it per the recipe, she should be cooked good enough not to burn them much, if any. The problem i see is unless your going straight into flower now, your going to run out of gas for sure. Thats why folks use the 7's and 10's, is because you need that extra soil to carry them through. And thats with 50%. So id plan on adding something, which is kind of a bummer as you wont really get to see what SS can do. But, next time i guess huh? At least your on your way.
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dabig

Member
No, if you mixed it per the recipe, she should be cooked good enough not to burn them much, if any. The problem i see is unless your going straight into flower now, your going to run out of gas for sure. Thats why folks use the 7's and 10's, is because you need that extra soil to carry them through. And thats with 50%. So id plan on adding something, which is kind of a bummer as you wont really get to see what SS can do. But, next time i guess huh? At least your on your way.
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Thanks for your response. I figured I was using to little, but I did not have the larger pots and I did not want to burn them. I will be putting them into flower almost immediately. I will top dress with SS or hit them with earth juice if I lose steam at the end. Next time I will have the right size pots and better cooked SS :)
 

medical/420

Active Member
I told my buddy about Super soil, so he mixed some up, well later that day, he planted his plants init and said"i anit waiting a month to plant these plants" I was like it is not going to work as well. with in a week the plants are kicking ass, they are growing fast.

On another note, the best yeailding plant i ever had(bud size) was planted in super soil with Zero cook time, weird huh? I am not saying to do it, just letting you know what happened both times we tryed it.
 

dabig

Member
So I am experiencing what appears to be a ph problem. Some slightly twisted new growth with turned up points on the leaves and what looks like phosphorus lockout on one. I guess I will try and water in some lime and see if that helps. Maybe its just teething while the plants get used to the mix.
 

SpicySativa

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Hmm... I do know that the pH of super soil rises and stabilizes as it cooks (composts), so it could be out of range. That said, since going organic, I almost never use my pH meter. When I do, it's only to satisfy my curiosity and I still don't add anything to adjust. Every once in a while I just have to reconvince myself that the soil takes care of that for me...
 

Oriah

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imho, despite how the soil should be able to adjust ph to some degree, if your water ph is not between 6-7, your plants arnt doing as well as if it were.
 

SpicySativa

Well-Known Member
It's also going to depend on the buffering ability of your water. Water with VERY low dissolved solids has very minimal buffering ability. It takes on the pH of the soil very quickly. If your water has high TDS, it will be more resistant to pH changes, and can actually linger in the soil at a pH that might not be ideal.

My tap water has VERY low TDS, and comes out at a pH of about 8. I've found that adding back minerals in the form of General Organics CaMg+ drops my pH to about 6.5. I also sometimes water with it as is (well, filtered through a Small Boy) and the runoff still comes out at 6.5.
 

dabig

Member
My water comes out the tap at 8 something. I let it sit for 24 hours or so, then I bubble it for an hour or so before watering. It is usually right at 6.7 when I water. I should try and check the run off, but I watered before I noticed the one plant exhibiting the lockout. Thanks for the help guys.
 

Oriah

Well-Known Member
6.7 should be great, but checking the runoff will let you know where the soil is at, and if you do indeed have a ph lockout.
 

dabig

Member
Well guys Roots Organic soil really fucked me. My yellowing started going away, so I was not to worried. I started experiencing the leaf edges rolling up, I thought it was heat stress, I was wrong. I just got a job recently so I really was not paying attention like I should have been. I noticed that a bunch of my recently transplanted babies were doing the same thing, I knew this could not be heat stress. I checked the run off finally weeks after the initial problems(I was stupid not to do this in the beginning.) My runoff was coming out at a 5.6 from my baby plants and a 5.9 from the big ones. That damn roots organic soil is acidic as shit, I added a handful to some of the run off and it dropped another couple points. I just did a major flush, run off is up to about 6.3, but thats with water at a 7.7 or something going in. tired and pissed now. Going to smoke some troubles away. Found a good source of local compost, supposed to be the bees knees. Im finished with roots.
 

nugbuckets

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the biggest problem with "under cooked" SS is acidity...it will be acidic, and some strains will be intollerant.....raw roots out of the bag is usually around 6.2 PH....adding SS ingredients makes it even more acidic until the bacteria has time to break it down and raise the PH.
 

dabig

Member
I am running Cannalope Haze, OG13, Liberty Haze, Pineapple chunk and Kandy Kush. The problem is not the Super soil, its the roots. Only the big plants have the supersoil, and it is acidic, but not nearly as bad as the babies running straight roots. I am ballparking the PH of the roots at 5.5 or lower, maybe I got a bad batch. Im not sure what roots expects to happen when their soil is at a 5.5 or lower, but its not good, I worried these babies are to far gone.
 
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