These are the woods they will grow up in... svchop889 2010 outdoors:

those look awesome SV. they are gonna be monsters for sure.

donkey.420 said:

lookin good sv. thought they were gonna be goners for a bit but you pulled em thru. great work!

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Thank you, unfortunately were not quite done yet here. How many months left now? Lets see September October harvest, tomorrow is the 1st of july so 3-4 and Ive lost 2, one a month since they have been out. which I feel pretty bad about still I really needed them all to make it but I already knew they all wouldn't that's the nature of nature I suppose next year I will be prepared I will be legal and I will be growing a ton more. indoors and out.

ElectricPineapple said:

those look awesome SV. they are gonna be monsters for sure.

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Thank you EP I know for certain the one will be the other I'm not so proud of but every grower has an ugly plant and the contrast between the two Is enough for me to feel like I'm doing alright considering...

your compliments are all appreciated they help me a lot more than you know.

hey my White widow is my ugly duckling of the bunch. haha thats why you dont see many pictures of her in my journal she has taken a couple of beating but is still ticking. i am just hoping for a 3/4 zip form her.

Well a new grow shop opened in town recently so I went to check it out today, I was somewhat disappointed but only about the selection I guess you could expect that though, its a miracle when anyone can even open a business around here I did pick up an Eco air plus 8 pump for 25$ its lightly used but its brewing my AACT right now and its kicking ass retail for new is usually about 58$ so pretty good deal I would say and dude gave me a couple 5'' net pots for free and didn't charge any tax but I suppose that's probably because the pump is used.

Hey I thinks shes pretty still, I bet you get a zip though but I'm sure your guessing low so you don't get disappointed not that anyone could be disappointed with an ounce of white widow I know I wouldn't be. Even if it had 100 seeds in the whole thing.

haha well actually im thinking 3/4 zip would be a high guess. but we will just have to see but it will be a very potent 3/4 zip she is very resinous

ElectricPineapple said:

haha well actually im thinking 3/4 zip would be a high guess. but we will just have to see but it will be a very potent 3/4 zip she is very resinous

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That she is.

ah, i didnt even see the post about your purchase. thats a pretty good buy haha. im going to have to get a few air pumps for my next grow. im going to venture into a little bubbleponics. run maybe 4 plants, each a different strain then run maybe 8 more or so, in soil, same strains, to see yield differences. im hoping to double yield in the bubbleponic systems. if i do, then ill probably drop soil except maybe have a few pots, just for taste and such

ElectricPineapple said:

ah, i didnt even see the post about your purchase. thats a pretty good buy haha. im going to have to get a few air pumps for my next grow. im going to venture into a little bubbleponics. run maybe 4 plants, each a different strain then run maybe 8 more or so, in soil, same strains, to see yield differences. im hoping to double yield in the bubbleponic systems. if i do, then ill probably drop soil except maybe have a few pots, just for taste and such

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Im just might do a four bucket bubleponic setup myself this thing has 8 outputs if I put 2 into 1 so I have four it would take care of 4 5 gallon buckets easy if its set on high. I will put it this way I am using one output with a 4'' airstone set on medium and its taking care of a 4 gallon jug with ease

damn thats pretty solid. i dont know if i want to do 4 5gallon buckets, or get like 2 20-30 gallon rubbermaid tubs and make it a 2 site on each one, hmmm decisions decisions.

ElectricPineapple said:

damn thats pretty solid. i dont know if i want to do 4 5gallon buckets, or get like 2 20-30 gallon rubbermaid tubs and make it a 2 site on each one, hmmm decisions decisions.

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Right I also have been thinking about a coco coir grow just as a sort of transition to hydro from soil but using a self watering bucket system somewhat like this [youtube]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/F7WANal8Jp0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/F7WANal8Jp0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/youtube]
but adding the bio-tone I have to the coir along with some compost and utilize riddleme's make it rain technuiqe but with use of AACT instead, I guess I am an organic guy. So fully switching to hydro might not happen bubleponics would be an option but I think the closest I will get to areoponics is the coir.

that youtube video didnt quite work. well im in a 50/50 FFOF and COCO mix that i mix, with added perlite and EW castings in it. i really like it, and so did my plants. its like a coco medium, with the added benefits of FFOF

also its nearly impossible to overwater in it. when you water sometimes, with a lot of water, air bubbles will start to come up since it is so airy, which helps with yield as well. also coco is really good at holding nutrients and water to give your plants more nutrients. you may not need a watering system. i just hand water every 2 days or so and they seem to like it.

ElectricPineapple said:

that youtube video didnt quite work. well im in a 50/50 FFOF and COCO mix that i mix, with added perlite and EW castings in it. i really like it, and so did my plants. its like a coco medium, with the added benefits of FFOF

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Its working for me right now, but yeah I know thats whats had me thinking about it I hear its pretty much impossible to over water it and I figure If its always damp because of the self watering bucket It would be perfect to do organic in because the microbes that feed the plants will stay healthy and the roots will always have enough oxygen

ya i put microbes in my soil as well. since FFOF doesnt come inoculated. they are probably dead now since my last flush, but it doesnt matter as much now since they get the chop soon. but i believe they helped out a lot. i put plant success MYCORRHIZAE in it, with some endo and ecto bacteria.

i also really the self watering pot on that youtube

ElectricPineapple said:

ya i put microbes in my soil as well. since FFOF doesnt come inoculated. they are probably dead now since my last flush, but it doesnt matter as much now since they get the chop soon. but i believe they helped out a lot. i put plant success MYCORRHIZAE in it, with some endo and ecto bacteria.

i also really the self watering pot on that youtube

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you should do some reaserch into AACT then to keep the microherd In sufficient quantity. They definitely do help though the grows I had before this one that were kinda just my experimentals I didnt use any myocorrhizae and I compared pictures and my 2 week picture with it look better than my day 48 without so they definatly play a part and is the main reason I will always do organic in soil because if the microbes and fungus isnt there to break things down to make more available to the plant. the plant wont grow as fast and chemical nutrients diminish the microbes so how is that supposed to be better in anyway? Imho I don't think it can be, I mean I had 4-6 nodes on my plants in 14 days that's damn near as fast as hydro. also not letting your medium dry out keeps them going so I think that's where these self watering pot are going to play I big part in my future, that and buying myself a 400w CMH setup

ya that is very true, well if you get something like a water soluble nutes, like FF soluble granular line, ( open sesame, beastie bloomz, cha ching) they can absorb it easily and dont need to be broken down like organics do. but i did have good microbes in it. whether they stayed in the whole grow, only the plant knows haha

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ya that is very true, well if you get something like a water soluble nutes, like FF soluble granular line, ( open sesame, beastie bloomz, cha ching) they can absorb it easily and dont need to be broken down like organics do. but i did have good microbes in it. whether they stayed in the whole grow, only the plant knows haha

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Im sure I will try something along those lines eventually but right now I don't have a lot of cash and bubbling shit and compost is doing the job very well so I'm not to inclined to spend any more than I have to until I have some free cash. I will be doing some shopping this winter for certain though.

ya, well i recommend those FF nutes. ive had pretty good results from them. but i want to try some different nutes next grow. maybe try a few different lines. one on each strain and see what i like the best.

I may try the fox farm line up I may try this CNS17 I like the ratios It has http://www.htgsupply.com/viewnutrient.asp?nutrientID=23699823

not enough P in the bloom for me. but the grow looks nice but should have more N than K. should be 4-2-3 on the grow and bloom maybe 2-5-4