There Is No Devil.

AchillesLast

AchillesLast

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shroomer33 said:
What about magickians who summon these entities of evil, and see them manifest physically?
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There's a lot about this world we don't know. Not everything can be logically explained, but people will rationalize and try. Those things may exist on entirely other planes but parallel to the world we create everyday. All in all, they are manifestations of energy; the monster of energy that makes up everything around us.

I dig the thread brother jay. You familiar with the book "Be Here Now"?
 
jenni8675309

jenni8675309

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CrackerJax said:
No, Jesus was a myth and never a historical figure. Bingo.... :peace:
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CrackerJax said:
Nice try, but jesus was never a historical figure. A conglomeration of myths he is.
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CrackerJax said:
I've already said it.The devil and jesus are BOTH myths..... not real.....figments....get it? :peace:
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Wow. You really discredited yourself there. It is rarely debated that Jesus never existed, because there is so much proof that He did exist.
However, it is often debated wether or not He is the savior. Some people think yes, some people think no, some people say He was a prophet and nothing more.
But saying that he never existed? Come on man, if you dont want to take the time and research it, do you atleast have the History channel? Or Discovery Channel? They dig up historical facts all the time.
 
CrackerJax

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jenni8675309 said:
Wow. You really discredited yourself there. It is rarely debated that Jesus never existed, because there is so much proof that He did exist.
However, it is often debated wether or not He is the savior. Some people think yes, some people think no, some people say He was a prophet and nothing more.
But saying that he never existed? Come on man, if you dont want to take the time and research it, do you atleast have the History channel? Or Discovery Channel? They dig up historical facts all the time.
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I'm sorry, what proof? Proof from the Bible is the ONLY source. I've done this far too many times but I can rip the bible and its time lines to shreds if you wish. The bible is NOT a historical document. All HISTORICAL documents from that time and area are replete of jesus. Shall I go into detail? I can, I just was keeping it short before.

All three statements were spot on.
 
robert 14617

robert 14617

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even if he was , bringing someone back from the dead after 3 days please in the middle east no less stinking and bloated with blow fly maggots starting in all my openings , let me stay dead
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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There is NO historical evidence that a jesus ever existed. One need only ACTUALLY read the writings of Paul to see that, but most just get spoonfed what the church wishes to talk about. Ever notice (I have) that when you hear a mass, they are all over the place. Quote here, and a quote there, no real consistency...because there isn't any.
 
robert 14617

robert 14617

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as far as the devil goes evil lives in the heart of us all ,we are all capable of the worst offenses against our fellow man, and are also capable of great compassion
 
shroomer33

shroomer33

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AchillesLast said:
There's a lot about this world we don't know. Not everything can be logically explained, but people will rationalize and try. Those things may exist on entirely other planes but parallel to the world we create everyday. All in all, they are manifestations of energy; the monster of energy that makes up everything around us.

I dig the thread brother jay. You familiar with the book "Be Here Now"?
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Well put!

Some energy is condensed into mass via E=Mc^2, but most energy isn't, and that doesn't mean the energy isn't 'real'.
 
shroomer33

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CrackerJax said:
I'm sorry, what proof? Proof from the Bible is the ONLY source. I've done this far too many times but I can rip the bible and its time lines to shreds if you wish. The bible is NOT a historical document. All HISTORICAL documents from that time and area are replete of jesus. Shall I go into detail? I can, I just was keeping it short before.

All three statements were spot on.
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I'd like to see you rip the Bible's timelines to shreds.
 
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bigwheel

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There are many smart folks who have spent their entire lives trying to discredit the Bible which none has been able to do. Aside from a few copyist errors it has never been proven wrong on even a minor issue let alone a major one. Where God speaks of science history or geography it is 100% accurate. Modern archeaologists use at as a handbook on where to dig. What do God and Obama have in common? Neither has a birth certificate. How do they differ? God does not think He's Obama and Liberals love Obama (paraphrasing my pal old Maja Rushie of course:) Meaning by extension that liberals don't love God. They couldn't because God and His Written Word are not compatible with the dogmas of the Religion (cancer) of Liberaslism. Now that is simple enough even a Liberal can understand it. Right?
 
CrackerJax

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bigwheel said:
There are many smart folks who have spent their entire lives trying to discredit the Bible which none has been able to do. Aside from a few copyist errors it has never been proven wrong on even a minor issue let alone a major one. Where God speaks of science history or geography it is 100% accurate. Modern archeaologists use at as a handbook on where to dig. What do God and Obama have in common? Neither has a birth certificate. How do they differ? God does not think He's Obama and Liberals love Obama (paraphrasing my pal old Maja Rushie of course:) Meaning by extension that liberals don't love God. They couldn't because God and His Written Word are not compatible with the dogmas of the Religion (cancer) of Liberaslism. Now that is simple enough even a Liberal can understand it. Right?
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Which Bible, which edition? Who put the Bible together and when? What was left out? What has been taken out?

Answer some of these first and then get back to me..... before you speak of the Bible.
 
jenni8675309

jenni8675309

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CrackerJax said:
Which Bible, which edition? Who put the Bible together and when? What was left out? What has been taken out?

Answer some of these first and then get back to me..... before you speak of the Bible.
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Wait, you mean you dont know the answer to that?
I cant believe you are sitting there talking trash about something you dont know anything about. Geeze dude, atleast do a google search about the bibles history or something.

bigwheel said:
There are many smart folks who have spent their entire lives trying to discredit the Bible which none has been able to do. Aside from a few copyist errors it has never been proven wrong on even a minor issue let alone a major one. Where God speaks of science history or geography it is 100% accurate. Modern archeaologists use at as a handbook on where to dig. What do God and Obama have in common? Neither has a birth certificate. How do they differ? God does not think He's Obama and Liberals love Obama (paraphrasing my pal old Maja Rushie of course:) Meaning by extension that liberals don't love God. They couldn't because God and His Written Word are not compatible with the dogmas of the Religion (cancer) of Liberaslism. Now that is simple enough even a Liberal can understand it. Right?
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Amen


Also, there are many, many archaeological discoveries to support the relevant truth of the bible.
Have you ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Or the Ebla archive? Found in the 1970's written on clay tablets from around 2300 BC.
And it was once claimed there was no Assyrian king named Sargon as recorded in the bible. Then Sargon's palace was discovered in Khorsabad, Iraq. The very event mentioned in Isiah 20 was recorded on the palace walls. What is more, fragments of a stela memorializing the victory were found at Ashdod itself.
I could go on and on.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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jenni8675309 said:
Wait, you mean you dont know the answer to that?
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I asked HIM the question. that does not mean I don't know the answer. Tone down the hate a bit there.

All of your bible references are about the OLD testament, not the new. Besides that, having proof that a myth was created long ago and handed down doesn't make it true.....does it?
 
shroomer33

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jenni8675309 said:
Wait, you mean you dont know the answer to that?
I cant believe you are sitting there talking trash about something you dont know anything about. Geeze dude, atleast do a google search about the bibles history or something.


Amen


Also, there are many, many archaeological discoveries to support the relevant truth of the bible.
Have you ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Or the Ebla archive? Found in the 1970's written on clay tablets from around 2300 BC.
And it was once claimed there was no Assyrian king named Sargon as recorded in the bible. Then Sargon's palace was discovered in Khorsabad, Iraq. The very event mentioned in Isiah 20 was recorded on the palace walls. What is more, fragments of a stela memorializing the victory were found at Ashdod itself.
I could go on and on.
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We also have the Septuagint from 300BC (400AD-oldest copy), which proves that the Jews are really good at copying things down. What is cool is that we can track down where certain mistranslations were made and when, and in some cases, why.
The Bible is an integrated message system from outside our time doman.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Just because ppl write things down, doesn't make them TRUE. They also thought the earth was flat.... religion is mans explanation of his surrounding world WITHOUT the benefit of SCIENCE. We have science now......drop the myth and move on.
 
CrackerJax

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And yet the very basic tenant of your religion is based on FREE WILL. You may want to rethink that post. So the whole thing is a trap? Nice.......
 
Reddragon1986

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Free will is a life without religion, are catholics or jews, when they turn 16 years old,be asked if they would like to be controlled by a god? I dont think so, anyone could bring up a child and tell them disney stories they would believe true. Yet if u imagine a human being brought up with no religion, and had never heard about it, he would just live his life. So why wouldn't god make himself known to his creation? If there was never a bible, god would not exsist, as he is a myth, a bedtime story.

Lets say he did exsist, he would be the devil aswell as being good, if he wants people to prey to him he must have a ego, therefore emotion, and emotions come in opposites, so he must get angry and let his people die.
 
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