Theoretical (For Now) Grow Setup and Operation - Advice Please !

PiggyGrow

Member
Hi guys !
So i've been wanting to grow for ages, i enjoy smoking alot, but really what i want to do is grow, not for profit, not even to save myself loads of money, just because the whole thing really interests me, infact my ambition is to retire to Canada/Cali and try and supply dispenseries etc (no idea of the practicality of this, il make another thread another time).

Anyway i've been doing some research and wanted to get peoples opinion on my theoretical setup (i hope to MAYBE be able to get set up next year, its a safe location i lack currently).;

First off the grow room;
120x120x200 (cm) Mylar tent
600w Dual Spec HPS in a 5" Cool Tube
5" inline fan w/ Buddy Carbon Filter

Ok so i was going to set up the ventilation like so Filter------->Inline Fan-------->Cool Tube------->Out of tent
After reading peoples opinion on here and Grasscity it seemed to be most common to pull through the filter and blow through the tube (as opposed to pulling through both).

Plant wise i was going to grow Northern Lights (from Homegrown Fantaseed), as i read it was a decent yielder with low odour and a reasonable plant to grow as a starter. I was thinking i would just grow 2 plants at once, this is due to being more interested in maximising yield off single plants, but i don't fancy just handling one. Also i thought with less plants il be able to spend more attention on them, something along the principle that more TLC will lead to happier plants ? I was going to grow x2 Northern Lights for my first harvest, x2 Northern Lights for my second and x1 Northern Lights (experimenting with LST, topping etc) x1 Critical Kuch (Barneys Farm) for my 3rd (was aiming to get 3 in a year).

I was thinking of growing using Biobizz Light-mix in 15L pots, using Biobizz grow during veg and then Biobizz flower during.....well flowering.

Now i have read about transplanting and alot of people seem to do so maybe 5 times. I was planning on just alowing the plant to get settled in a small potting pot, then once about 3-4" tall transplating straight to the 15L. Do people think this would work ok ?

I was initially planning on vegging until the plants were about 25" as i heard indicas (i read the NL from Homegrown Fantaseed is Indica dominant rather than some of the Sativa dom NLs) usually doubled in size, however i then read through a grow diary (sorry i can't remember who it was) and their NL (nirvana seeds) tripled in size. As my tent is 2m tall and i was thinking of allowing 50cm to account for light and pots, i can't allow anything to grow over 150cm, as such i plan to veg to 50cm or 19" to be safe.

As far as feeding is concerned i planned to feed every other water as this seems fairly common. I was thinking i would probably need to water twice a week (and so feed once a week), but maybe the size of the plants means it may have to be more than that ? I was thinking i will probably just have to keep a really close eye on them until i work out how fast they get through water.

I had been planning on flushing the plants twice, once just before switiching from Veg to Flower, and then again just before harvest. To flush i was simply going to remove feed so basically just water 5 times in a row (over the course of 2.5 weeks). A quick question i did have was with the final flush. I read on one guide that not feeding OR watering the plant for the last 2 weeks can help with the drying process after. Does this mean i could flush for 2 weeks, then not water or feed for 2 weeks then harvest ? Or would 4 weeks without any nutrients have a negative effect ?

When it came to harvesting i was going to try and trim before hanging the plants, and also to try and hang the plants whole (weight and space permitting).

Once dry i would put the buds into mason jars for storage until used. I was thinking (self control permitting) of putting 1/2 Oz in a mason jar and not touching it (except to air) until 6 months when i will allow myself maybe 7g and then not touching it til a year when i mite finish it, just because i heard that long term curing can produce really really good buds.

Thank you very much if you read all that, any advice on my plan would be appreciated. Im really sorry if i have posted this in the wrong section or anything, being a n00b this seemed the appropriate place to post !

Cheers Guys !
PG
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
Too complicated. KISS. Too low a goal with that room and light combined with the strain. Disappointing yield for so much effort. 4 of those little suckers would do fine in 3 gallon containers with FF HF or FF OF or a mix of the 2.

Attention newbies: Screw the nutrients. You are trying to fly jets before learning in the Piper Cub. Look - buy one bag of Fox Farms Ocean Forest, put some in 3-gallon containers and put your light over it all. Get the fans going and keep them going. By the time those plants need nutrients in that soil, you will know much more (hopefully). Good luck. Don't think too hard, it will give you a headache. And don't remove a leaf the plant grows.
 

Zhu

Well-Known Member
I agree with harley, you are way overthinking things for your first grow. Start simple and go get a couple 100w cfls and a small fan. Weed can be a fickle plant, but most errors caused by new growers is messin with it to much and pretty much any lightly nuted potting mix for veggies or flowers can bring a first timer from start to finish with little problems. As for trimming it depnds on what you plan to do with the foilage, personally I wait a day or 2 then trim for hash as the leaves seem more plyable and dont break up so fine, leaving more goodies and less plant matter on the screens. Mason jars are fine for curing, but any jar will do as long as it seals well and you burp them. Curing for a year seems like overkill
 

PiggyGrow

Member
Thanks for the response.
Originally i had thought about growing 4 plants in 11L pots in a 80x80x160cm tent but i thought that mite have been a little tight, also the 1x1x2m is only £10 more and the 1.2x1.2x2m is only £2 more than that so i thought i mite as well just go for the bigger tent.

This is the link to the NL grow diary i refered to;
http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/366093-nirvana-northern-lights-grow.html
He grew just 2 NL plants, and although he didn't quite generate (unless ive done my maths wrong) 0.5g per watt, he identified problems which may have impacted and didn't have the benefit of cooled lights. With cool lights i should be able to get them closer to the plants and therefore get better light penetration ? I appreciate he is far more experienced than me, but given some time learning the ropes (as in a couple of 4 plant test harvests) would you have thought my plan was workable ?

I must ask though what do you mean by FF HF and FF OF ? Praying i can get away with that question given the nature of this section of the forum ^^

I think the reason i have thought so hard about it (and maybe overcomplicated it) is because i have so much time to think about it, because i don't have a set date i can start i just keep thinking about the set up/plan and keep trying to improve on it.

Lastly do people think it would be ok to do the entire grow under 600w dual spec HPS ? I know a MH light or some blue light CFL may be better for vegging but if that were not possible would the 600w be ok ? as it would be cooled i thought id be able to get away with having it fairly close to the plants (obeying the 'does it burn you' rule).

Cheers
PG
 

PiggyGrow

Member
Sorry for double post!
I agree with harley, you are way overthinking things for your first grow. Start simple and go get a couple 100w cfls and a small fan. Weed can be a fickle plant, but most errors caused by new growers is messin with it to much and pretty much any lightly nuted potting mix for veggies or flowers can bring a first timer from start to finish with little problems. As for trimming it depnds on what you plan to do with the foilage, personally I wait a day or 2 then trim for hash as the leaves seem more plyable and dont break up so fine, leaving more goodies and less plant matter on the screens. Mason jars are fine for curing, but any jar will do as long as it seals well and you burp them. Curing for a year seems like overkill
Thanks for the input, my oringal idea was to get a 105w blue and 125w red spectrum CFL light and run that, but people doing this seemed to be people interested in doing lots of small plants in a small area (due to reduced light penetration of CFL?) SoG style, which really didn't float my boat. But i can appreciate using them for a first time mite not be so bad.

I wasn't sure whether i wanted to try and get some Kief out of the excess folliage or not, a bit i hadn't really thought about !

Finally the 'cure for a year' was really just my idea of an experiment to monitor the change over time to an 'extreme' (can't think of a better word) case.

Thanks again for the input !
PG
 

IC3M4L3

Well-Known Member
YES AS HE SAYS ABOVE A FEW POSTS FORGET THE NUTES AND DONT OVER WATER

noob mistake and yes we all done it,, just plain tap water left to warm to room temp so u dont shock the plant! only nutes i use at birth is canna start for clones and seedlings
 
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