The White Jones and a Chronic

Hey everybody!

Have some pics from my 2ft x 4ft tent for my first post! It has a 600w lamp in an air cooled hood with no glass in it (I urge anyone who can to take the glass out of these things). 6inch fan air out, 4inch fan air in. The table is a small 10 site drip feed recirculating system. I'm only using 6 of the sites, probably only 5 by the time I flower. Nutes are GH Flora base 3 part line and Botanicare additives, I use Grozyme too. I do my shopping at Second Nature Hydroponics in Toronto and Harvest Time Hydroponics in Niagara Falls.

Germinated a fem 5pk of The White Jones. All seeds sprouted fine but after a couple of days in the rockwool it was apparent there was a struggler! She is the one in front left, her cotyledon leaves stayed pale and it took a while to take off. She still looks a little gimpy but I've kept her on. I germinated a Chronic seed to make up for it....... I chose Chronic for no other reason than I had a pack of fems on the bench. The Chronic is the back right. There are a couple of group shots and a couple of close ups of my preferred White Jones plants, plus a nute shot and full tent pic. Too early to call anything yet except for Struggla. I'm hoping for what all growers hope for- Good yields of good bud!

Leaves are turning up a little from some higher temps but all is returning to normal after adding the 16inch fan you see in the pic. ppm is 620 ish, PH 5.2ish. Not sure the temp or humidity...... The room the tent is in is air conditioned so I'm not too worried.

I intend to top/FIM the WJ's after another node of growth, give them a week to recover/move on and then let 'em have 12. No idea what the yield could end up being as this is first run of the White Jones...... I'm giving them FA veg and this is for funsies.

After this HUGE grow I'm going to take all the $$$ I'll make and be ballin' on the beach somewhere nice Maybe Fort Erie!lol Nah just kidding........ This grow is for charity- I'll be donating all profits to DARE.

Feel free to pass comment, say hi, offer advice, pull off any dead leaves......

Hi again, Anybody out there? Connoisseur Genetics White Jones and a Serious Seeds Chronic, I'll listen to sound counsel and do my best to see her through to harvest...... Throw me some advice peeps!

Anyways, I wanted to show a pic of the Chronic........ She's all deformed down one side and there is another thread on here with a grower getting similar problems with Chronic- https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/697857-chronic-white-russian-serious-seeds.html Here's my Chronic,

Hope to just power on through...... I germed her to replace a runty White Jones- Struggla as explained above so I'm dissappointed she's a morph too...... I'm gonna keep her or the Struggla for flower, whichever looks to be the better performer......

Here are some more shots from today...... 4th and 5th pic are of the Struggla WJ,

still got the leaves turning up thing going on with the older WJ's...... Not sure what to do...... ppm is low enough so it is not burning the seedling or runt and leaf colour seems fine. I had them under 24 hours, have backed it down to 20/4........ I don't believe it to be a light thing or over feeding...... I guess these White Jones' like it cold, even with the AC in the room she's still around 25 in the tent(?!?). Anybody got any suggestions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRkxiClBu7o Rodney P gwan tell all bowt Struggla! He was born in a (hydro) system

Hello again lurkers, please, somebody, anybody, feel free to comment. I'll settle for some spam about diet supplements!

Tonight I went about some training. I left alone Struggla and the Chronic because they are too weak for training and general consensus is Chronic will not like it(I'm gonna LST her a bit anyways when she's got some meat on her bones).

The 4 White Jones' got it tho! Yesterday I "FIM'd" the one you see "FIM'd" in the pic. I have since learned that I should have opened the new growth up and snipped the top shoot, instead I cut through a pair of developing fan leaves....... Not to worry tho...... lots of folk think what I have done is "FIMming" and as you can see from the shots of her- pics 2, 7, 8 and 9, she has bounced back quite rapidly and has good growth coming through on the nodes underneath. A case of "Fuck I missed Fuck I Missed" maybe.... but at worst it will serve as a topping. It was based on her bouncing back with new growth I decided to proceed on the other 3 WJ's today........

The two you can see that have been bent/super cropped I used a small pair of very thin nosed pliers to gently break the main stem and bend her over below the line of nodes/fan leaves underneath. I gently crushed the main stem from 2 directions. I hope I did it just the right amount....... One did split but only very slightly, so I think I will be OK.

The final one I have had my own attempt at LST upon. I punched a small hole in the rim of the pot with scissors and got a fine bit of nylon thread to tie the plant's main stem down with........ I tied her angling away from the light and intend to repeat this on all 4 sides of the pot to form a circle/coil....... The rate of growth is fast in this system so hopefully I'll be round the pot by beginning of Sept. If not, I shall continue tying her down and bending her round the pot to expose shoots during the first week of flower if necessary.

These plants began germination 16th July, 12 days ago! I think this is quite a quick system. They have been on slightly less than 50% schedule suggested strength GH Flora nutes for first 7 days due to variation in developement between the Struggla, Chronic and 4 stormin' WJ's. 3 days ago the res was changed and I added the additives and upped the strength of Flora nutes to bring her onto 720ppm.The next res change will be a flush of plain water with some hydrogen peroxide. I will then feed a full strength veg regime until flowering begins....... I will keep posting and maybe I'll make another account and post some encouragement so I look cool! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKGEkI3mEeI I'm Waiting! Peace x

Seriously?! No interest in The White Jones going fast as she can in a top drip recirculating system? Come on guys. I feel like the new kid at school being blanked by all the cool girls. I mean...... if that's the way she goes...... well that would just blow, but I'd still be the one with the bag of White Jones nugs at the end of the show!

Don't be strangers, come tell me everything I'm doing wrong!

Ok so..... maybe I was supposed to click on the "journal this post link" lol. Does that make it show up? idk. But I have journaled them anyway. Hopefully somebody will find me interesting now.

You want to buy some diet supplements? Just Joking Looks good so far man keep it up

I think they're looking fine!

I like what i see, tho i would soil the cronic and runt and just focus the drip at the healthy wj's

dlftmyers said:

You want to buy some diet supplements? Just Joking Looks good so far man keep it up

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kroost said:

I think they're looking fine!

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Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Hopefully one day I'll be LSTing like in your thread kroost! I have a bit of an issue with the leafs curling up. I lowered the light to 20/04 and some of it has backed down but there's still a bit of curl going on....... I'll be relieved if the next set of fan leaves come through with no more curling. Any suggestions would be great.....

Gave them their first proper feed tonight. I think Struggla Jones and Weirdo Chronic can handle it and to be honest.... Fuck 'em. They're beginning to get on my nerves and I'm dying to get onto my next grow. I'm gonna do something cool with 2 Rubbermaids, a pump, an air stone, two strippers and a bottle of lube....... Just a joke, but I am going to veg a Scotts OG plant for 8-9 weeks while these WJ's are getting 12 and flower it under a 600w in a 14Gal Rubbermaid. Back on topic however...... so I gave them a strong feed- ppm currently 1090 ph 5.5ish (I hate the pens and love feeling like a mad prof doin my own ph'in lol) 3gro/2micro/1bloom per/gal. I gave them slightly under full strength additives- Liquid Karma, CalMag, Sweet, Silica and 10ml per/gal of Grozyeme. They are looking a little beat up from the shitty FIM job and the super crop. The LST decided she couldn't be tied down and made off back towards the light. I have herding experience from my younger days and rounded her up and tied her down again. For all the beat up, sorry looks the ladies are giving me, I can see plenty of new growth sprouting out on nodes below the damage line and I have hopefully turned all my White Jones' into more than single cola ladies

The leaves on the Chronic are still looking odd pic5.... I don't think this is my fault, she seems to be a morph. Hopefully it's a trait that will be out grown in flower. I'm annoyed I lost the White Russian Kush cross that were given out at TY Expo by Serious...... I would/should have germed one of those instead

Here's a song about another Mrs Jones..... I don't think Marv' beat his Mrs Jones as bad as I beat mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZwOTlQQDc 4.20mins too!! OoooOooo Mrs, Mrs, Mrs Jones



Peace 'n love x

For some reason there is also a picture of my bare ass cupboards....... Right down to the shit no one wants to eat. I don't know why it is attached to my post, it musta fallen off my phone. I was going to send it to my boss to get him to pay me sooner. Do you think it will work?

pyrosfire said:

I like what i see, tho i would soil the cronic and runt and just focus the drip at the healthy wj's

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Thanks dude. I don't mess with soil myself ever but I might give Chronic to a buddy. The runt aka Struggla Jones will come good, I'll veg her on in another tent if I don't flower her. I still may flower her because even a quater of White Jones is good smoke.... I liked what the testers had to say about it over on ICMag. The Chronic is the one I'm bothered about most.... I don't want her going crazy in flower and taking over the tent!

chief!!! boss

slgreen said:

chief!!! boss

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Errr sure pal. I'm glad you think so.

Hello all, So here are a few pics...... They have grown since my last post, that's what they do I guess. I've been LSTing and I've topped all but the Chronic and White Jones Struggla. I gave them a bit of a burn with the res change I was telling you about in the last post with pics....... So I have her backed down to 800ppm now. PH I keep as constant as I can in the low 5's. They are bushing out and the 600w has been moved up now I've a leaf structure going on all the plants. Pic #5 is the most LST'd of all the plants..... The rest just have limbs tied down, with this one I tied the main stem to the pot so she is horizontal and we now have her side branches reaching up towards the light. Pics 4 and 7 are my favourite for yield. They seem to be slightly different to the other WJ's and therefore I'm hoping these are the Casey leaning pheno's....... Pics 8 and 9 are the Chronic.... She has shrugged off her weird leaf thing and is going strong. 10 and 11 are the Struggla ad she'll yield a nice 1/4 Oz of hopefully White leaning smoke. Pic 12 is the tent shot to give you an idea of set up, I think she's a definition closet grow. I germinated these seeds on the 16th of July....... so they are 19 days from going in paper towels. I think they progress notably faster in hydro than in soil........

I will be giving them 12 soon. I'm dropping the lights down to 18/6 from 20/4 and in three days time I will begin giving them 12/12 and changing bulb........ Once the plants start to need it I will add a net for support. I wont be using a bloom booster because I never have and never had a problem with yield...... (That's all a perception thing like manhood...... Some guys need to be sure theirs is the biggest). Booster is what people complain about when they had bad hydro..... It's the use of the booster that is too far. I can flush everything else and get a clean taste......


I will be flowering all 6 plants because they are all fem seeds(who wants a hermaphrodite for a mom?) and I have these waiting- TAA DAA- I got them from True North Seed Bank. I shall be germin' just the Scott's because only a mad man would try to do GTH#8 in a 2ft x 4 ft tent haha. It wouldn't do it justice, I will wait until I am further south for that....... Uruguay seems like the right place to germinate those .

I will be doing just one or two Scott's next run in 53L/14Gal containers with top drip recirculating being the SOP. Stay tuned for that........

So next update and the WJ's and the Chronic will be in flower...... I love guessing yield and my shout is 8-10 Oz's of nice buds..... Feel free to speculate. See you in a couple of weeks with more pics! Peace x

hey there jumpy0ne. looks like some nice work there. Very rapid growth there with the hydro. I'm thinking of wacking out my DWC again myself due to the huge difference in growth time compared to soil.

What size pots have you placed them in?

I'm thinking of popping an exodus kush and see how well that does in DWC, if it takes anything like the Martian Mean Green I'll have it ready to switch to flower in no time.

I think the usage of LST is a good idea. Could i reccomend letting it veg slightly longer, that way you're garunteed more out of it. I loved how well my plants responded to it though. Literally 3 times as much growth during veg, stems the size of tree trunks on little 3 footers.

Either way, It looks very nice, keep up the good work,

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slgreen said:

hey there jumpy0ne. looks like some nice work there. Very rapid growth there with the hydro. I'm thinking of wacking out my DWC again myself due to the huge difference in growth time compared to soil.

What size pots have you placed them in?

I'm thinking of popping an exodus kush and see how well that does in DWC, if it takes anything like the Martian Mean Green I'll have it ready to switch to flower in no time.

I think the usage of LST is a good idea. Could i reccomend letting it veg slightly longer, that way you're garunteed more out of it. I loved how well my plants responded to it though. Literally 3 times as much growth during veg, stems the size of tree trunks on little 3 footers.

Either way, It looks very nice, keep up the good work,

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Thanks dude.

Yeah Hydro/DWC is fast. Fuck soil if you live in a city........ Bigger, faster, better, stronger. Def pop the DWC and let her rip. I honestly don't know why you're fucking with soil where you are........

LST is the best method by far...... Compared to LST,- topping, super cropping and FIMing is just plant abuse! Gently tie the branches and large fan leaves out of the way and let the light hit the new growth....... It's so simple.

They're in small 3.5L pots so that's part of the motivation for flipping..... But then again this is hydro....... I know longer veg = bigger yield but I'm in a hurry...... Ya see those Scott's OG don't ya?

Exodus Kush from DNA should be killer. Definitely pop'em...... Not enough good Kush in the UK and you can NEVER have too much cheese. Hahaha the thought makes me chuckle.... Too much Cheese lols

So here they are...... about to get their first 12 hour dark period......... I have put the first bar for the scrog net in........ a second will be added and string/bungee cords across.... I'll wait to see how they stretch and then add the scrog before the swell......... It's just for support and to keep the colas separate, not a true scrog.

A couple of group shots of all 6 and one without the Chronic. The individual shot is of the Chronic alone. She responded well to my LST and I wanted to show her off! Tomorrow is Day 1 of Flower!!!!

Here they are in their second day of 12/12. Topped a few limbs before the flip. Those are 3.8L/1Gal pots. Chronic is still back right. A couple of the Jones' swapped places.

There they are, in their 4th day of 12/12. A little stretch beginning and plenty of new growth reaching towards the light. Feeding a pretty standard veg mix of nutes with Grozyme. I'm sticking with the MH bulb. I read that it creates more resin....... Since I only vape that's the only bit I care about..... so......MH it is.

Chronic is still back right.It's getting crowded in there now..... not too badly but enough the other wooden bar will be going in the other side of the tent and string will be run across. Not a scrog, just some supporting lines.

A question for anybody- In your experience how much does pot size matter in hydro? Is it as vital as it is for soil yields?

Anyways let me know what you think...... x

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There they are, in their 4th day of 12/12. A little stretch beginning and plenty of new growth reaching towards the light. Feeding a pretty standard veg mix of nutes with Grozyme. I'm sticking with the MH bulb. I read that it creates more resin....... Since I only vape that's the only bit I care about..... so......MH it is.

Chronic is still back right.It's getting crowded in there now..... not too badly but enough the other wooden bar will be going in the other side of the tent and string will be run across. Not a scrog, just some supporting lines.

A question for anybody- In your experience how much does pot size matter in hydro? Is it as vital as it is for soil yields?

Anyways let me know what you think...... x

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Firstly just wanted to say that I'm not here to hate.


The simple thing to remember about soil and about hydro.

Soil = large roots = large plant = large yields
Hydro = small roots = large plant = large yield.


You don't need the emphasis on roots with hydro as you do with soil due to the nutes being readily available to the roots.




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