The Vault’s Skywalker Auto Comparative Grow - in association with Mephisto Genetics

whitebb2727

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Good morning everyone. I am sorry for not updating sooner but we got hit by the storm last week on the east coast very hard. Our house is sitting in about a foot and a half of water everything is ruined, we have not been able to go home so we have been staying with family since our house is not fit to live in until we gut it. We were told that starting today we can get back in there and start. The day the water started rising i grabbed my plants and put them up in top of the barn in a window but that side only gets a few hours of light a day so i have no idea if they are even still alive. I will update when i get some time tonight.
I'm sorry you are going through that. When I was in high school we had a 100 year flood. I volunteered with jrotc to clean up.

I hope things get better and hopefully soon volunteers wil be out to help.

Times like this its nice to have good neighbors.
 

UniDragon

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So DwC and me dont get along..... period.... only been in buckets 2 days, and i have shit growing on my roots.... i want to say the wrap i wrapped them in is cheap and not acutally dark in the bucket..... i will be pulling them, rinsing the roots, and putting them in coco/perlite mix.View attachment 3808117
Sorry that happened. I was under the impression that hydroponic growing is simple and carefree growing. I guess I was wrong. I hope everything clears up for you soon. Good luck!
 

bertaluchi

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Sorry that happened. I was under the impression that hydroponic growing is simple and carefree growing. I guess I was wrong. I hope everything clears up for you soon. Good luck!
Hydro is far from simple and carefree. It requires test equipment and if it is not dialed in perfectly problems will occur. I have grown plenty of hydro before I went organic and the results are amazing when everything is working but a pH problem or a high PPM will cause you major problems, not to mention root rot and other diseases caused from anaerobic activity in the res. And although the growth rates are great with a good DWC or other hydro system, I find that the best taste and potency can only be attained with the use of organic practices.
 

VenomGrower6990

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Good morning everyone. I am sorry for not updating sooner but we got hit by the storm last week on the east coast very hard. Our house is sitting in about a foot and a half of water everything is ruined, we have not been able to go home so we have been staying with family since our house is not fit to live in until we gut it. We were told that starting today we can get back in there and start. The day the water started rising i grabbed my plants and put them up in top of the barn in a window but that side only gets a few hours of light a day so i have no idea if they are even still alive. I will update when i get some time tonight.
Best wishes to you and your family. Stay safe.
 

KushyMcKush

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Are these fems? Im sure it says somewhere in this thread but I dot want to read through 34 pages lol. It doesn't mention it on mephisto's website or in any of the descriptions Ive found.
 

UniDragon

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Hydro is far from simple and carefree. It requires test equipment and if it is not dialed in perfectly problems will occur. I have grown plenty of hydro before I went organic and the results are amazing when everything is working but a pH problem or a high PPM will cause you major problems, not to mention root rot and other diseases caused from anaerobic activity in the res. And although the growth rates are great with a good DWC or other hydro system, I find that the best taste and potency can only be attained with the use of organic practices.
I got the impression that hydro was simple because I talked to a head-shop guy one time that was selling a Emily's Garden that he had in his shop. He said that hydro was so simple that he could take care of his plants with "a bad hangover without any problems." Within his presentation that he gave me, he said that all he did was take some GH Micro and some GH Bloom and mix it in water and feed the plants and that's it. He changed out the water every third watering but that's about it. The flip side to that is: I have read in books over and over again that one should never try hydro until you have a good understanding of how gardening works and you have three grows under your belt before you try hyrdo because things change so rapidly and you have to have a good basic foundation of knowledge of gardening before you try hydro.
 

bertaluchi

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I got the impression that hydro was simple because I talked to a head-shop guy one time that was selling a Emily's Garden that he had in his shop. He said that hydro was so simple that he could take care of his plants with "a bad hangover without any problems." Within his presentation that he gave me, he said that all he did was take some GH Micro and some GH Bloom and mix it in water and feed the plants and that's it. He changed out the water every third watering but that's about it. The flip side to that is: I have read in books over and over again that one should never try hydro until you have a good understanding of how gardening works and you have three grows under your belt before you try hyrdo because things change so rapidly and you have to have a good basic foundation of knowledge of gardening before you try hydro.
Key words in your post "head-shop guy one time that was selling a Emily's Garden that he had in his shop." Trust me when I tell you that if you are just throwing some nutes in water and running hydro, there will be problems. pH adjustment is KEY in hydro. I had best results with R.O. water because the well water at my house caused great swings in pH. Also you have to be aware of PPM or EC and keep that in check. Not only that but sometimes the plants use more of one element in the nutrient solution than others and that can be problematic as well, causing you to either change the res more frequently or risk an unbalanced diet. For me it was a lot more work than I have time to put in. This is just my experience, others may have different experiences. I was running DWC 4 bucket system with 30 gallon res. I now do less work and have better smoke, so I am sold on organics. But if you are running a warehouse full of plants hydro may be the way to go
 

UniDragon

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I know now that hydro is not at all as simple as he made it out to be. I was going to try a single bucket dwc project for the first time and got involved in this one instead; no complaints. A friend of mine lived in California for a while. Needless to say he learned all about growing. His claim was that with a hydro system, if you lost power for any length of time and your plants were effected by not having enough light and then you turned everything on,along with the lights, your plants would bounce back within hours; vs. soil it would take closer to 7-10 days. This being because when you feed your plant(s) in a hydro system you are giving the plant a direct shot of whatever it is you are feeding it; as opposed to soil where the nutes or whatever has to travel through the soil first in order to finally get to the roots.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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don't think the 250 was cutting it, overall growth seemed like it had stalled out. don't have a par meter but the old lux meter said the plants right under the light were getting 20k, but that dropped rapidly as you moved away from the center, the plants on the edge were only getting 12 or 13k.
so i changed my ballast and bulb to a 400, and raised it up so it covers the whole tent. now the plants in the center are getting over 30k and the plants on the edge are all 18k or higher, hoping that breaks this little lull.
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soil is doing better, think the roots have finally grown in enough for the top to start growing good, 100_2205.JPG
Coco is doing well, forgot to turn it all day yesterday, so its sort of leaning to the left but it'll straighten up 100_2207.JPG 100_2208.JPGHempy is doing well, biggest of the 3, hoping she responds well to the increased light levels. the only thing i don't like about hempies is the algae, only thing i've found to do is just scrape it out occasionally, can't grow more than a couple of inches down in the black pots but it just bugs me.
 
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