The UK Growers Thread!

[skunkd0c]

PH'ing is for hydro & southern soft water shandy drinkers, err growers i mean.. up north it's hard and fine out the tap with most nutes, canna works a treat with it.

I think you would have to go as far south as possible to find that soft water (coastal areas), only ever seen hard water in London

Canna works well without any need to measure or adjust PH,
water starts at around 7.2-7.4 when brought up to an EC of 1.0 the PH will drop to 6.8-6.6
EC of 2.0 the PH will drop to around 6.2 anywhere around 5.8 -7 works well in NFT and DWC
i used canna for about 10 years , but switched to vitalink max about 5 years ago i find it keeps them greener and is a bit cheaper to buy
all these foods have virtually all elements supplied in chealted form and hard water and soft water versions, adjusting PH should be unnecessary

 

[samtheman08]

PH'ing is for hydro & southern soft water shandy drinkers, err growers i mean.. up north it's hard and fine out the tap with most nutes, canna works a treat with it.

have those plants always been that yellow ice? how much water they getting? i'd try bunging some mono N in the next feed for one of them and see if any green comes back. i know you n yorkie are like cat n dog but he's right about getting yourself some straight nutes. Mono Nitrogen is a few bar for a litre and will last donkeys

4 liters of white ace a day or is that too much ? lol thats what i was drinking everyday 3 years back bad times ....................

 

[samtheman08]

I think you would have to go as far south as possible to find that soft water (coastal areas), only ever seen hard water in London

Canna works well without any need to measure or adjust PH,
water starts at around 7.2-7.4 when brought up to an EC of 1.0 the PH will drop to 6.8-6.6
EC of 2.0 the PH will drop to around 6.2 anywhere around 5.8 -7 works well in NFT and DWC
i used canna for about 10 years , but switched to vitalink max about 5 years ago i find it keeps them greener and is a bit cheaper to buy
all these foods have virtually all elements supplied in chealted form and hard water and soft water versions, adjusting PH should be unnecessary

im propper costal and asked my mate does he p.h and he doesnt he said the waters good round here but i dont get that as they still need the right ph !!!

 

[indikat]

I fuked them off...cunts...decided not to appear for the hearing, got an email from tha solicitor this morn...al good case dismissed...new legal precedent set..ummm must .send tha lawer an o..smoking blunts in tha garden, took tha kids to tha park, got some clones (omg thank you) and pHed my water and fed it to tha plants, well the soil....all of it mind not jus the bit round the stick.

 

[shawnybizzle]

Alreet ya bunch of wide eyed tree frogs his it going? Fuck me am I goin through some stress at the min all down to feckin women I tell ya they drive a man crazy aaarrrrgggghhhhhhh Lol putting me off me grow n shit not good. Anyway ice I noticed your yellow ones I've said it before and I think Baz said aswell plant magic magne cal give it a try it might work sorted mine out and they looked exactly like yours do

 

[skunkd0c]

im propper costal and asked my mate does he p.h and he doesnt he said the waters good round here but i dont get that as they still need the right ph !!!

Never grown in softwater myself, i think i would start off adjusting ph, a little bit then relax it over time
if you have a starting ph of 8.4 with softwater full strength food will only lower it to 7.4 or so it would be better being acidic 7 or below
but still a good chealted food should still be able to supply elements at this ph range

 

[IC3M4L3]

hahah thought it'd be yorkies blame lol. so we can rule out overwatering then, them bitches need a good feed. the straight nutes are dead handy for deficiencies

course it is, he made baseless accusations, i just retailiated, until then i never knew ther was a problem? anyways fuk him he's prooved himself to know fuk all and all his shit faild, m past it,,

they need some good N and Mg, then I would be more careful with watering them (it looks like only 50% of the pot has water applied to it). The whole pot should be wet, let the substrate create water channels for the roots to grow and feed from, don't just water around the stem of the plant. Once I had hit them with some N (I would recommend something like Bio Novas nitrogen, only a 10er for a bottle, its 27-0-0 + Mg. or canna will do something just as cheap) I would then add some veg nutes and continue from there. good like IC£ ya spud!

really? i always done the make the plants roots look for ther feed theory therby makingthe plant work,therby making it stronger?

okey dokey then

ice u doing loft grow yer?...how u extracting out the house?...chimdny?

no mate im in a celler and the othe rop is in a room, got 3 livers today, 1 was snaped in half unfortunately, but first time so its coo, so got 2 livers and gunna add 2/3 bbc to the mix and no would never extractouta a chimeny instant giveaway they dont just look for hot surfaces they look for hot outlets,
if your unsure watch the how not to get caught vid on youtube very impormative

so don u got any of these nutes for me m8? bit skint atm starting up 2nd op and then utes for both then thers lekki ffs, broke isent the word

 

[indikat]

Never grown in softwater myself, i think i would start off adjusting ph, a little bit then relax it over time
if you have a starting ph of 8.4 with softwater full strength food will only lower it to 7.4 or so it would be better being acidic 7 or below
but still a good chealted food should still be able to supply elements at this ph range

how do chelated elements differ in their ability to deliver in adverse pH?

 

[samtheman08]

Never grown in softwater myself, i think i would start off adjusting ph, a little bit then relax it over time
if you have a starting ph of 8.4 with softwater full strength food will only lower it to 7.4 or so it would be better being acidic 7 or below
but still a good chealted food should still be able to supply elements at this ph range

il pass the knowledge on thank you . i am not intrested in the hyrdo growing i prefer soil the water near electrics trips me out dude lol peace

 

[Mastergrow]

Alright lads, my m8 just checked on my stuff cos in away and he tells me it's sittin at 25.9, that's with the 3 600ws and the extraction ain't on up full. Warm enough here too, just not as warm as it is over with yous, yous can keep ur fuckin sun over there along with ur high temps lol

ic3 I dunno what the fuck u done to them psycho, there def in flower m8 lol. About the psycho not drinkin as much, I found that on this grow and the last that when there put into flower for a week or two they don't drink as much. U def sure ur lights arnt fuckin up and goin off?? I never phd cos my waters pretty good, and the ionic nutes don't change it much but I bought a ph pen a couple weeks ago just to see, more fuckin bother than its worth I reckon, find myself spending ages tryin to get my two big tanks to 5.8, add a bit of down, then it's too much...them have to add some up, be fuckin about with them for ages to get it right but I never had problems before so I reckon it's a waste of time lol

 

[skunkd0c]

the roots have a negative charge, many of the trace elements have a positive charge so have problems being directly absorbed by the roots
the trace elements are bonded to another chealting element which results in a negative or neutral charge overall this matches the roots negative charge

the relationship with ph is not so direct, it is more a case that the element used for chealting is something that can be absorbed by the plants across a wide range of ph,
so whatever element is bonded to the chealting element will still be absorbed by the plant like a piggy back ride at a wide range of ph values,
the plant is able to absorb the trace element and discard the chealting carrier element

 

[IC3M4L3]

Alright lads, my m8 just checked on my stuff cos in away and he tells me it's sittin at 25.9, that's with the 3 600ws and the extraction ain't on up full. Warm enough here too, just not as warm as it is over with yous, yous can keep ur fuckin sun over there along with ur high temps lol

ic3 I dunno what the fuck u done to them psycho, there def in flower m8 lol. About the psycho not drinkin as much, I found that on this grow and the last that when there put into flower for a week or two they don't drink as much. U def sure ur lights arnt fuckin up and goin off?? I never phd cos my waters pretty good, and the ionic nutes don't change it much but I bought a ph pen a couple weeks ago just to see, more fuckin bother than its worth I reckon, find myself spending ages tryin to get my two big tanks to 5.8, add a bit of down, then it's too much...them have to add some up, be fuckin about with them for ages to get it right but I never had problems before so I reckon it's a waste of time lol

il check the timers out wen i go bak ima have to just make sure, dunno how unless i sit ther for 24 hrs, il just check maybe ones out of whack, but yeh thats fucked up if ther not,, autoflower physcosis AYE! lmao

il go later and check i was ther at 2pm and the lights was off so if ther still off after i go at 8 then i got a prob and il have to put em bak in veg, but im pretty damn sure ther ok but other than that u reckon ther looking reet MG?

 

[mrt1980]

il check the timers out wen i go bak ima have to just make sure, dunno how unless i sit ther for 24 hrs, il just check maybe ones out of whack, but yeh thats fucked up if ther not,, autoflower physcosis AYE! lmao

il go later and check i was ther at 2pm and the lights was off so if ther still off after i go at 8 then i got a prob and il have to put em bak in veg, but im pretty damn sure ther ok but other than that u reckon ther looking reet MG?

you could turn the dial round slowly to see if it goes off when it shouldnt

 

[shawnybizzle]

Right seen as were on the topic of growing for once Lol does anyone use topmax bloomer? I heard its better that boost???

 

[indikat]

the roots have a negative charge, many of the trace elements have a positive charge so have problems being directly absorbed by the roots
the trace elements are bonded to another chealting element which results in a negative or neutral charge overall this matches the roots negative charge

the relationship with ph is not so direct, it is more a case that the element used for chealting is something that can be absorbed by the plants across a wide range of ph,
so whatever element is bonded to the chealting element will still be absorbed by the plant like a piggy back ride at a wide range of ph values,
the plant is able to absorb the trace element and discard the chealting carrier element

Ummmmm transfer of ions across a plasmamembrane is either osmotic or active transfer, not to do with electrostatic charge of ions relative to the root tip....?

 

[Mastergrow]

il check the timers out wen i go bak ima have to just make sure, dunno how unless i sit ther for 24 hrs, il just check maybe ones out of whack, but yeh thats fucked up if ther not,, autoflower physcosis AYE! lmao

il go later and check i was ther at 2pm and the lights was off so if ther still off after i go at 8 then i got a prob and il have to put em bak in veg, but im pretty damn sure ther ok but other than that u reckon ther looking reet MG?

Ther must be something up m8, are they at the side of the room and not under the lights or are they in the middle of the rest? Ther def psychosis and not autos lol, when u said they wer flowering I thot they wer throwin out a few pistols showing ther sex like a mature plant but urs are more in flower that mine the last time I seem them, urs look about two weeks into flower. Maybe something fucked up before now and there taking ages to go back to veg, just guessing here m8

 

[Mastergrow]

Ummmmm transfer of ions across a plasmamembrane is either osmotic or active transfer, not to do with electrostatic charge of ions relative to the root tip....?

Aye exactly what you said indi lol.....

 

[bazoomer]

do your own thing ice , learn from your mistakes , i did, took me fucking years to get nice bud, i still fuck up ,the joys of growing

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[IC3M4L3]

Ther must be something up m8, are they at the side of the room and not under the lights or are they in the middle of the rest? Ther def psychosis and not autos lol, when u said they wer flowering I thot they wer throwin out a few pistols showing ther sex like a mature plant but urs are more in flower that mine the last time I seem them, urs look about two weeks into flower. Maybe something fucked up before now and there taking ages to go back to veg, just guessing here m8

lol they wer away but we rnot driniking much then they just took of (rhiz) so in the end i hought fukit, and put em in the middle again, im going now to check on timers as like i say wer of at 2 so chould be bak on now,

do your own thing ice , learn from your mistakes , i did, took me fucking years to get nice bud, i still fuck up ,the joys of growing

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speak for yasen, i make no mistakes, just these dogy paddies with cuts! LMAO

 

[indikat]

@ iceman ....u not too keen on soil from wat I read, did u hav a bad experience an now prefer coco?