the twin towers method, and letting nature do the work

8deez8

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This year marks my third growing season. I've heard a lot of people say that growing outdoors is hard work, and while I can't disagree, I'd like to share some short cuts me and my friends have found (growing on public land, hit and miss) that make a 40 plant plot a mornings work. comments additions welcome

This is written for latitude 20-33~, I've found it easy to pull 6-8 zips a plant letting the climate do most of the work for me in years past.

I use commercial (brick) seeds that doesnt look indoor grown, and although nice genetics would be nice I don't know if I'd trade them. Usually these mid plants have 9+ wk (long) flower and give massive yields per plant.

I use a guitar case to stealthily move what I need to do 40-50 "twin tower plots" per run. In this case, I have half a bag (sometimes a lil less, this comprises most of the weight I carry) of black kow .5-.5-.5 compost, a bag of perlite, and a shovel with a head shaped similar to a post hole digger, about 4 ft long, got mine at homies. I let the handle of the shovel go where the neck of the guitar usu. sits.

Up until the end of April and even into may, I take this pack out and use the shovel to dig 9-12 in wide holes at the top, tapering them getting slightly narrower to about about 30-36in deep, having about a 6 in wide hole at the bottom. This creates a hole the shape of an upside down cone with the tip cut off.

I approximate how much to amend the soil (juding by darkness of existing soil), usually quite a bit as I like to choose slightly drier, sandier dirt. Marijuana plants like it drier than most noobs think (and drier than most other plants).
I mix in a good bit of perlite, about 15%. Not only do MJ plants love perlite, but this directs the roots (being the path of least resistance) into the hole you've created, already a shape conducive to their growth.
I churn this up (usu. one shovel head full black kow) nicely in the hole and place 4-5 tiger stripe monsters in there about an inch under some loose pack. (They germinate naturally at the perfect time) If you're really going for a hands off method, you can add extended release fertilizer with high p-k and low n (NPK) atleast 2 feet down, and don't overdo it! Half of pkg rec or less. This is not recommended but if you can't bring nutes in later.... Hell if you can't be back to pick males you prob need to rethink your sitch anyway

Let these babies veg all summer! you should have atleast one plant per hole, but if you ahve 2, don't kill it just yet...

The twin towers method was originally meant to increase the occurence of a females growing in each of holes me and my buds so laborously dug. After doing this, I noticed that there are also additional benefits that may exceed the first!!!

If you have two plants per hole competing for light, this is good. let them compete for vegetative growth. If you picked a nice sunny spot, don't worry about them getting too spindly next to each other, all the sugars both produce will eventually feed just one. Late summer, when they begin flowering, you will be able to kill the males. In my experience, cutting the males (w scissors to get as close to root as possible) whos root systems are entangled with females boosts the growth of the entangled female. As the roots of the cut males die, they provide natural, clean sugars for your still living females, and you will see noticibly more swollen buds. I am quite sure this is the same as adding molasses or other sugars to promote organic growth. The roots die at an increasing rate the later on it flowers, I've given molasses teas to my plants and i must say the rate the roots die is perfect for the molasses/sugar feeding schedule.
 

pressDUCK

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If you have two plants per hole competing for light, this is good. let them compete for vegetative growth. If you picked a nice sunny spot, don't worry about them getting too spindly next to each other, all the sugars both produce will eventually feed just one. Late summer, when they begin flowering, you will be able to kill the males. In my experience, cutting the males (w scissors to get as close to root as possible) whos root systems are entangled with females boosts the growth of the entangled female. As the roots of the cut males die, they provide natural, clean sugars for your still living females, and you will see noticibly more swollen buds. I am quite sure this is the same as adding molasses or other sugars to promote organic growth. The roots die at an increasing rate the later on it flowers, I've given molasses teas to my plants and i must say the rate the roots die is perfect for the molasses/sugar feeding schedule.
That is a nice tip, simple, and logically it seems a perfect source of nutes for the conjoined twin.

Got me wondering about using culled males and trimmings to make an organic tea, the nutes would seemingly be perfectly balanced...hmm.
 

Calijuana

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thanks alot for this advice man!!! so helpful as this is gonna be my 1st growing season outdoors... awesome!
 

Zig Zag Zane

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8deez8, so would you say it is ok to use soil(from a pot) that already has some roots in it, cuz I used a lot of soil in big pots, some turned out to be male, big waste of good soil....can I use the soil again even if it has roots? if i mix and churn it all up?
 

8deez8

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8deez8, so would you say it is ok to use soil(from a pot) that already has some roots in it, cuz I used a lot of soil in big pots, some turned out to be male, big waste of good soil....can I use the soil again even if it has roots? if i mix and churn it all up?
If it is organic soil...otherwise roots should be removed.

Ya if it never got root bound should be ok, just churn up roots i wouldn't waste the soil. You may need to a add a little high Nitrogen (N of N-P-K ratios) fertilizer as well as a touch of epsom salts (or other source of magnesium [Mg]) If your water already has Magnesium in it this is not necessary.

Depending on how far those males got maybe a lttle high P fertilizer later (molasses has K if you use that, as I do in late flower)
hope this helps
 

beginningbotanist420

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I use commercial (brick) seeds that doesnt look indoor grown, and although nice genetics would be nice I don't know if I'd trade them. Usually these mid plants have 9+ wk (long) flower and give massive yields per plant.
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME! I've always said the exact same thing. All the brick mids you buy are usually from mexico. In mexico they grow huge sativas that are usually heavy yielders because they are growing for production, production, production. Being on the 33rd parallel, these production sativas are perfect for me. All my friends pay 75$ for 10 sativa seeds, but my mids seeds out yield them every time...
 

Zig Zag Zane

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If it is organic soil...otherwise roots should be removed.

Ya if it never got root bound should be ok, just churn up roots i wouldn't waste the soil. You may need to a add a little high Nitrogen (N of N-P-K ratios) fertilizer as well as a touch of epsom salts (or other source of magnesium [Mg]) If your water already has Magnesium in it this is not necessary.

Depending on how far those males got maybe a lttle high P fertilizer later (molasses has K if you use that, as I do in late flower)
hope this helps
yeah man they had a good root system goin' but they werent that big before they showed sex, so like...the roots hadnt gotten rootbound at the bottom or taken up too much of the soil...yeah im gonna have to add some mag....i tried to get the most thick and tap roots out...i just have to churn it up real good...so im definitely goin' to use it again....thanks for that advice and help man.
 

8deez8

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FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME! I've always said the exact same thing. All the brick mids you buy are usually from mexico. In mexico they grow huge sativas that are usually heavy yielders because they are growing for production, production, production. Being on the 33rd parallel, these production sativas are perfect for me. All my friends pay 75$ for 10 sativa seeds, but my mids seeds out yield them every time...
Ya, they usually have a nice long flower and veg faster than I can make any other plant grow period... even my dwc! They have the most efficient leave system that covers more surface area, quicker, than any other plant ive ever seen--mj or not. This makes them kinda shitty indoors tho...they're just fucking jungles to manage each of them!!!

Could someone explains where the kief goes from brick weed tho? like wtf? Grown outdoors in mexico (pollution capital of the world mex city) so you know they get nasty nutes, but they should get plenty UVB....to whom do the mexicans sell their hash???? Europe?

Also Zig Zag Zane, I would go ahead and add a couple teaspoons sugar amendment such as molasses, raw sugar or karo (tho i havent used karo myself, should work the same, just avoid the vanilla additive) if you've got something like that... to give your bacteria a lil kick start they need to start eating those roots by the time you need it available to your root system. may not be necessary tho~ those roots have high energy/sugar content themselves as lng as it's kept a lil moist til you need it but i'm sure i'm preaching to the choir.
 

beginningbotanist420

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Could someone explains where the kief goes from brick weed tho? like wtf? Grown outdoors in mexico (pollution capital of the world mex city) so you know they get nasty nutes, but they should get plenty UVB....to whom do the mexicans sell their hash???? Europe?
When the people are bricking it up, the resin coats on their hands and the bag because its soo thick and sticky! :bigjoint:
 

8deez8

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I agree BB, they're definitely not handling anything carefully/curing etc... but under magnification this stuff has CLEARLY been sieved/kiefed to death, I can say that with certainty about most commersh I've ever gotten
 

Zig Zag Zane

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Ya, they usually have a nice long flower and veg faster than I can make any other plant grow period... even my dwc! They have the most efficient leave system that covers more surface area, quicker, than any other plant ive ever seen--mj or not. This makes them kinda shitty indoors tho...they're just fucking jungles to manage each of them!!!

Could someone explains where the kief goes from brick weed tho? like wtf? Grown outdoors in mexico (pollution capital of the world mex city) so you know they get nasty nutes, but they should get plenty UVB....to whom do the mexicans sell their hash???? Europe?

Also Zig Zag Zane, I would go ahead and add a couple teaspoons sugar amendment such as molasses, raw sugar or karo (tho i havent used karo myself, should work the same, just avoid the vanilla additive) if you've got something like that... to give your bacteria a lil kick start they need to start eating those roots by the time you need it available to your root system. may not be necessary tho~ those roots have high energy/sugar content themselves as lng as it's kept a lil moist til you need it but i'm sure i'm preaching to the choir.
Yeah im definitely using it, when I mixed and churned it all up and poured it back into 2 of the original bags, it filled both of em'...cant let that go to waste lol im sure some of the roots wont hurt the next root system, it will help probably if anything :blsmoke:
 
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