The Truth about Hermaphrodites

barbz said:

Maybe I'm an idiot. I thought herms should be pulled because you probably have other plants in your grow room that don't want to be pollinated. That's why I ganked our male MK and hermed Buddha Tahoe. The remaining Delahaze is virginal and has three donkey dicks (and one burrito) without seeds. Had I left the males, it would likely result in some Buddhahaze or Delatahoe some other unwanted cross.

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I agree, pulling a Herm out of the grow room is the most viable option, unless you are willing to learn. Growing a Hermaphrodite is a pain in the ASS, but that is how human beings learn. Those who always seek the easy way out are the ones who never go anywhere in life. It's like a ship in the Harbor; sailors never learn the real skill of navigation while in port and the ocean can be a nasty, deadly place, but that's where true Captains are born!

If I was a Teacher in a classroom, teaching students how to grow MJ, the first hands-on project would be to grow a Hermaphrodite all the way to maturity, with non-Herms in the grow area. I’ll guarantee; these students would surpass those who didn’t grow Herms, probably 10 fold.

Guitar Man said:

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Here is a bud from last years grow. For anyone who is wondering what or how "Nanners" look, open up this picture.

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okay, I am going to say I see one "nanner" on the right of the cola a couple of inches from the top, is there more?

Kewl thread, I definently need more on this.

Peace

Asmallvoice

ASMALLVOICE said:

okay, I am going to say I see one "nanner" on the right of the cola a couple of inches from the top, is there more?

Kewl thread, I definently need more on this.

Peace

Asmallvoice

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Good call!! Yes, that's the only nanner in this picture.

The picture in my avatar is a cali-connection blue dream haze freebie seed i got from attitude, she hermied on me, and so far i have around 9 seeds the picture was 2 weeks before chop, and I'm sat here now smoking it after a 7 day dry and am like 4 days into curing, but she is SO FUCKING SWEET to smoke, i needed to swear!

I have 3 cuts of same strain already 3 week into flower, and believe me, i hope they do the same, because this is some very nice smoke! the seeds are a MASSIVE bonus as i can keep the strain in my 'diet' for years to come, reckon it's gunna take a while for me to get bored of this taste and high and it seems cali connection have discontinued it because of 'hermie' tendancies.

this is the first hemie i have 'grown out' but it wont be the last, DJ shoirt himself is quoted as saying seeded weed can be tastier to smoke....so who knows, i been smoking for 20 years or so now, and this 'hermie' is knocking my socks off!

TicKle said:

The picture in my avatar is a cali-connection blue dream haze freebie seed i got from attitude, she hermied on me, and so far i have around 9 seeds the picture was 2 weeks before chop, and I'm sat here now smoking it after a 7 day dry and am like 4 days into curing, but she is SO FUCKING SWEET to smoke, i needed to swear!

I have 3 cuts of same strain already 3 week into flower, and believe me, i hope they do the same, because this is some very nice smoke! the seeds are a MASSIVE bonus as i can keep the strain in my 'diet' for years to come, reckon it's gunna take a while for me to get bored of this taste and high and it seems cali connection have discontinued it because of 'hermie' tendancies.

this is the first hemie i have 'grown out' but it wont be the last, DJ shoirt himself is quoted as saying seeded weed can be tastier to smoke....so who knows, i been smoking for 20 years or so now, and this 'hermie' is knocking my socks off!

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We tested some cured buds from my Herm's last night. UN-FRICKEN BELIEVABLE!!!! Seriously, beyond GOOD!!!!!

Another consideration for our friend, The Hermaphrodite: Seeds are dam expensive. They can be a pain to get, and, a person may not like the Strain. Seeds can also Hermaphrodite, regardless how "Pure" someone might think they are.

For the right grower, a Hermaphrodite is the gift that keeps on giving. Need seeds, just allow a ball to burst or use the pollen from the ball or nanner to pollinate your plant. Pinch off the rest, and you'll wind up with 10-20 seeds.

All seeds will be Female, with the Hermaphrodite Strain. To some, not a good thing. To others, MORE SEEDS FOR THE NEXT GROW (if needed), and with the knowledge of how dank the last plant was.

I'm in week 8 of flowering and I haven't had the ideal grow enviroment it's been more or less an experiment grow, I'm pretty far along in flowering and recently my bulb and had been out for some weeks it was surving on sunlight recently I bought the bulb, right away new flowers started popping up every where but I noticed there coming out different than the ones established already. The newer flowers or buds look more like swollen calyx stacked up on each other my question if its hermaphroditing will this affect the already established buds?

Well after reading this whole topic I feel much better.Iam doing my 1st grow 3 plants of Lemon OG Kush (DNA) from attitude seeds and iam almost into the 4th week of flowering and as I was turning the plants I noticed on the bottom bud a little powder and a very small pod. I looked over the whole plant and could not find any nanners anywhere. Iam leaving it with the other 2 plants and will see where this goes.. I had no stress to this plant other than it was the only plant I topped. Buds are looking and smelling great .. If I do get some seeds I probably will grow some out. I also grew up smoking in the early 70's and all lids had seeds.. I just don't want too many.

Question:

2-1/2 weeks in and I notice that one of the faster developing girls had about 20 "balls" hanging on the lower branches. Actually, it was probably more like 40, but 20 of them looked pretty mature to me. I just went ahead and cut the whole damn plant down, cuz I don't want it seeding up all the other plants in the room.

Well how would I know if it's too late? Will I have to wait until seeds start growing in the other plants? Are the male plants mature once the little pollen sacks appear or do they hang there empty for awhile waiting for the plant to fully mature? They might have been there for 3 days or so prior to my noticing them.

And if pollen was released (they looked like mature male sex organs to me) how long will it "contaminate" my room? I'd imagine there would be a million little pieces of pollen scattered by the fan all throughout the room.

What is this ?
lets look on the bright side of our fuck up growing hermies?
Your right it can smoke up nice but if customers see more than a couple of seeds in buds you tend not to see them again. Allways try to grow seedless if commercial.

ForbiddenFruit said:

Question:

2-1/2 weeks in and I notice that one of the faster developing girls had about 20 "balls" hanging on the lower branches. Actually, it was probably more like 40, but 20 of them looked pretty mature to me. I just went ahead and cut the whole damn plant down, cuz I don't want it seeding up all the other plants in the room.

Well how would I know if it's too late? Will I have to wait until seeds start growing in the other plants? Are the male plants mature once the little pollen sacks appear or do they hang there empty for awhile waiting for the plant to fully mature? They might have been there for 3 days or so prior to my noticing them.

And if pollen was released (they looked like mature male sex organs to me) how long will it "contaminate" my room? I'd imagine there would be a million little pieces of pollen scattered by the fan all throughout the room.

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If the balls didn't burst, no pollen was released. Trust me, you will know if they DID burst. You will see that beautiful white dust on the plant, right next to the ball.

GiLBEExGREEN said:

I'm in week 8 of flowering and I haven't had the ideal grow enviroment it's been more or less an experiment grow, I'm pretty far along in flowering and recently my bulb and had been out for some weeks it was surving on sunlight recently I bought the bulb, right away new flowers started popping up every where but I noticed there coming out different than the ones established already. The newer flowers or buds look more like swollen calyx stacked up on each other my question if its hermaphroditing will this affect the already established buds?

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Pictures, please.

*BUDS said:

What is this ?
lets look on the bright side of our fuck up growing hermies?
Your right it can smoke up nice but if customers see more than a couple of seeds in buds you tend not to see them again. Allways try to grow seedless if commercial.

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This plant was cut down 2 days ago. She threw out a few balls and I caught them before they burst. That's not to say I missed one or two, but I think just about anyone on this Forum would smoke this Hermie!! Hell, I'll bet they would pay some good cash for this dank bud!! I don't sell MJ, but back in my hey day, we would pay money for these lovely treats!!

And if someone is lucky, they might get a mature seed they can plant that WILL be Female.

Guitar Man said:

I'm totally with you on this! I grew up in the 60's and 70's and seeds were in ALL of our MJ, even the good MJ. Then Americans discovered what other Countries did, learning how to grow Sensimilla (seedless MJ). I remember when this happened in the 70’s, and buying an ounce was replaced with buying grams because the MJ was so strong and good! I’m sure Sensimilla was around before our golden discovery, but today is a totally different story (everyone wants the BEST: no RAG WEED!)

In my research, growers believe that seed production can reduce potency because the female plant must exhaust energy by making seeds. If a plant is loaded with seeds because a male landed pollen on her eager pistils, I could see why someone might feel this way. But, if a female plant only produces, say 10 seeds, when she could produce over a 1000, I don’t see how the small amount would affect the plant. In fact, this might increase potency because the plant has been “Teased” into reaching for more pollen, which can be compared to an Athlete.

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To make one stronger in competition, the body must be Tested or Teased into gaining strength and power. The man or woman must break down muscle tissue in order to become better (no pain, no gain), and if training is properly implemented, the result can be staggering! Faster, Stronger, and more potent is the result.

But, if the Athlete begins overtraining, the downhill slide begins. Loss of strength, mood changes, sickness, and other ailments can cause the person to be worse than they were before.

I’ve noticed, growing potent and quality MJ requires the constant attention of keeping the plant on the right edge(s). Take nutrients; too much, the plant can die. Not enough, the harvest will be lower and the bud not as good. But on that right “Edge”, the plant will thrive and the payoff, bountiful!

A few seeds in the plant might be the secret answer to better and stronger MJ, only because the “Workout” is done with precision (not too much, but enough). Just some things to think about.

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i breed by adding a bit of pollen to a reaspoon and gently pollenating single flowers on plants.

it produces smaller yeild and lesster quality bud. Even 1 flower pollenated seems to kind of limit potential.

seeded bud is still decent tho. and even the buds off selectivly pollenated plants can be great.

but it will never compare to seedless bud

Since removing lower growth(lollipopping) during the mid to late flowering periods really stunts the growth for a while, would intentionally stunting the growth make sense for those who find nanners in the very last weeks before harvest? Would the plant stop growing nanners, while still "finishing"(swelling) because of increased resin production? Just curious.

Great info! Answered a lot of my questions about hermies. I just discovered one on my grow. My biggest most beautiful plant as well. I just cut the parts off with the pollen sacs. I just can't bring myself to destroy her! Thanks for the interesting outlook on them. Glad I read here before I made a huge regret!

really good read guitarman learned alot about hermies

Great Lemon Skunk said:

really good read guitarman learned alot about hermies

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Thanks, GLS. Glad to help out!

Hermaphrodites get a bad rap. People complain, "Shit, my lady Hermed and now I have some seeds!" People freak out, people go nuts, people want to throw their plant in the trash!

I have grown several plants to maturity that were Hermaphrodites. I have also taken the seeds from those plants, growing another plant that gave me a POUND of bad ass smoke and plenty of shake for cooking!

Now, go try to buy some seeds that are Female. You will pay a shit load of money for ONE FUCKING SEED! And, even those seeds can Herm on you, especially if you are growing indoors, a completely unnatural environment.

Another huge complaint comes from people who buy cannabis, only to discover a SEED in their bag! OH, FUCKING, NO!!! Oh, fucking YES! If you don't want the seed, sell it! It will grow a another plant that is totally FEMALE!

Or, grow it yourself! You won't have to worry about seeds anymore, because you have a strain that will produce its own seeds! And, you won't have to worry about buying cannabis either, because you have your own supply of seeds.

Here is an example: I just finished up this plant. The original seed came from my daughters bag weed several years ago. I grew the plant from one of the seeds she gave me, the lady Hermed on me, and I took the seed (of about 20 I got off of the plant) and planted this lady. This was an outdoor grow, and not 1 nanner or ball turned up, so she's totally seed free, so even a Herm gets lazy when she is not stressed out!

Last year I had 4 plants in a single grow hermy due to heat and light stress (a leak) and I grew them all out dissapointed as I considered it a bad thing. I also didn't want the seeds. The smoke was phenomenal and I still have a quart jar of it. It is still curing nicely. I decided to start fresh as I figured I need to clear any pollen and I wanted to grow perpetual Super Lemon Haze.
Bought feminized seeds from a reputable dealer. Did a full run and 1 mother was particularly good so off to cloning her I go. This year I did it again lights leaks!... as I got lazy and sure enough 1 hermed and 1 was ready to harvest anyway (they are staggered in age).
So I harvested both and the hermy reminds me of the 4 last year.

1. Herm plants: Super potent, less bag appeal, buds are not dense, looser but frosty and malleable. I was about to get rid of these seeds as well but I am thinking the hermy weed is just a more potent smoke in spite of the fact it was harvested a week or so early.

2. Turned out I met the guy who grew the seeds on that 1st grow at a state growers cup and he confirmed what I had thought and that was those original seeds hermed on him and me and he thought they definitely carried the genetics for it.

3. The 2nd herm grow I am pretty damn sure it was just my mistake that caused the herm.

Summary: My mistakes led to 2 different hermaphrodite scenarios 1. Genetic+Stress induced and 2. Stress induced only
and I was not happy and went to considerable trouble to start fresh. All my herms produced amazing cannabis. It has less bag appeal but I prefer it and I was just about to throw the seeds out. No way.. I am rethinking my attitude toward herms.
The mother was absolute top shelf my pride and joy producing 11 ounces of dense, potent beautiful dried SLH. That is what I show others but my private stash will be my hermy stuff.