The Story of 9/11

Ginja, you clearly don't understand how wind resistance works. Some objects have considerably less of it, some have considerably more (ie: a relatively flat pieces that can catch the air vs sharp or round objects that are more streamlined).

What you are suggesting doesn't support anything. The top of the building hits the ground in under 11 seconds, which is a number compatible with freefall + wind resistance.

So you are completely wrong.

The fact the building started to lean but then stopped mid air is equally ridiculous and just shows that it would have collapsed as I said in the post above unless of course the remaining support was pulled out in a symmetrical fashion (which it was, with explosives or some other similar kind of force that most certainly was not jet fuel).

Again, you folks believe that when you smash a car fast enough into something it won't lose any speed.

As far as the static vs dynamic thing is concerned, there wasn't anything to turn this into a large dynamic load unless huge sections of support columns magically disappeared simultaneously to avoid the building tipping over into the street. And even if it was a large dynamic load, the lower building wouldn't offer no resistance at all and it wouldn't happen symmetrically. But of course that isn't what happened.

ginjawarrior said:

the first tower to fall leant at a 20% angle before its downward descent that shows clearly that it waasnt a simulatnius faliure

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Why wouldn't this building fall if it burned all the way and is obviously a much worse fire?


This building stands today.

For everyone on here that believes that our own government pulled 9/11 off I just wanna start of my saying your probably one of the biggest jerk-offs people talk to in real life just so you know. And second off if all you do is bitch about where you live and how its run and you feel like they are going to terrorize you and fly R/c choppers into your house until you shit falls down so you can say THEY DID IT AGAIN. Then just move to another country plain, instead of researching bogus shit like you do, look up another country to live in see what they're government gets involved into, how they're politicians help the people and they're standards of living if that matters to you and there is plenty more you could read up on to occupy your time from what your reading now.

NoDrama said:

You trying to convince us that one of the WTC towers fell onto #7, this is going to be fun to watch you try and prove that one. The fact that WTC towers fell 5 hours before WTC#7 did pretty much proves you wrong right there.

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ahh nodrama how i missed your brand of dishonesty

when exactly should the WTC 1 or 2 have fallen then? after wtc7?




tbh you seen these pictures more than enough to know this by now im just posting this so everyone else can see you lie

OGEvilgenius said:

I guess in your world pool balls just run through each other and never stop due to the resisting forces.

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I didn't know we were comparing ounces to millions of tons.

ginjawarrior said:

tbh you seen these pictures more than enough to know this by now im just posting this so everyone else can see you lie

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The only guy I see lying here is you (to yourself).

NoDrama said:

Why wouldn't this building fall if it burned all the way and is obviously a much worse fire?

This building stands today.

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much more modern building that didnt have a fucking plane run into it?

have you an honest bone in your body nodrama?

kelly4 said:

I didn't know we were comparing ounces to millions of tons.

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Two pool balls are close in mass. It's all relative. Two cars. If you take a gigantic run at my pickup with your midsize pickup I guarantee when you slam into it your speed will decrease dramatically. And if you only took a couple car lengths run, you'd end up at a rate of speed just that much slower (and in fact you might end up just being stopped outright if my truck was parked against a large building or wall... or a building parked on the earth).

Newtonian physics apply in all of these examples and the laws do not change.

kelly4 said:

Without some kind of outside force......Like a giant plane full of fuel?

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Giant plane vs core = plane gone core hardly touched.

Evidence?

[video=youtube;xM8E-CogkYE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8E-CogkYE[/video]

Let me know when you find an airplane that is made of something remotely hard. LOL airplanes are made of lightweight materials, mostly aluminum, synthetics and plastics. The fuel they carry is pretty much Kerosene, a chemical they don't use to melt anything. Fuel that in the open air barely makes paper catch fire, a fuel that when presented with a 80 foot thick reinforced concrete and steel girder core that is covered with the best natural insulator known to mankind is just going to fail from all the heat?

OGEvilgenius said:

The only guy I see lying here is you (to yourself).

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funny did you miss the bit where nodrama said this?

You trying to convince us that one of the WTC towers fell onto #7, this is going to be fun to watch you try and prove that one. The fact that WTC towers fell 5 hours before WTC#7 did pretty much proves you wrong right there.

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cause with the photo's i just shown that lie glares out to me

NoDrama said:

Why wouldn't this building fall if it burned all the way and is obviously a much worse fire?

This building stands today.

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*Sigh*



And how many times have we been through this?????? Apples and oranges........that building didn't have fuel laden jumbo jets flown into it either. Next.

OGEvilgenius said:

Two pool balls are close in mass. It's all relative. Two cars. If you take a gigantic run at my pickup with your midsize pickup I guarantee when you slam into it your speed will decrease dramatically. And if you only took a couple car lengths run, you'd end up at a rate of speed just that much slower (and in fact you might end up just being stopped outright if my truck was parked against a large building or wall... or a building parked on the earth).

Newtonian physics apply in all of these examples and the laws do not change.

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No way, when small truck hits big truck, big truck disappears and little truck keeps going with no speed decrease at all. All accidents are like this.

NoDrama said:

Giant plane vs core = plane gone core hardly touched.

Evidence?

[video=youtube;xM8E-CogkYE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8E-CogkYE[/video]

Let me know when you find an airplane that is made of something remotely hard. LOL airplanes are made of lightweight materials, mostly aluminum, synthetics and plastics. The fuel they carry is pretty much Kerosene, a chemical they don't use to melt anything. Fuel that in the open air barely makes paper catch fire, a fuel that when presented with a 80 foot thick reinforced concrete and steel girder core that is covered with the best natural insulator known to mankind is just going to fail from all the heat?

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the core did not fail from the heat the trusses and outer support beams failed with the heat

the core failed with hundreds of thousands of tons of building hitting it

doc111 said:

*Sigh*



And how many times have we been through this?????? Apples and oranges........that building didn't have fuel laden jumbo jets flown into it either. Next.

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You are right, it had Gunpowder and burned for 26 times longer, i.e. it makes the WTC fires look like a girlscout weenie roast.

Ill Bill said:

For everyone on here that believes that our own government pulled 9/11 off I just wanna start of my saying your probably one of the biggest jerk-offs people talk to in real life just so you know. And second off if all you do is bitch about where you live and how its run and you feel like they are going to terrorize you and fly R/c choppers into your house until you shit falls down so you can say THEY DID IT AGAIN. Then just move to another country plain, instead of researching bogus shit like you do, look up another country to live in see what they're government gets involved into, how they're politicians help the people and they're standards of living if that matters to you and there is plenty more you could read up on to occupy your time from what your reading now.

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C'mon, moving would be too easy. They would rather force a couple hundred million people to see things their way.........In the name of freedom, of course.

doc111 said:

*Sigh*



And how many times have we been through this?????? Apples and oranges........that building didn't have fuel laden jumbo jets flown into it either. Next.

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hey doc fancy meeting you here hows it going?

NoDrama said:

You are right, it had Gunpowder and burned for 26 times longer, i.e. it makes the WTC fires look like a girlscout weenie roast.

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lmao at the * fireworks*

ginjawarrior said:

the core did not fail from the heat the trusses and outer support beams failed with the heat

the core failed with hundreds of thousands of tons of building hitting it

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Outer support beams failed from the heat? Yet a woman is able to stand right next to said trusses and support beams? Rethink hypothesis please.

OGEvilgenius said:

Two pool balls are close in mass. It's all relative. Two cars. If you take a gigantic run at my pickup with your midsize pickup I guarantee when you slam into it your speed will decrease dramatically. And if you only took a couple car lengths run, you'd end up at a rate of speed just that much slower (and in fact you might end up just being stopped outright if my truck was parked against a large building or wall... or a building parked on the earth).

Newtonian physics apply in all of these examples and the laws do not change.

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Thank you for defending my point!
Once the top of that building started coming down, nothing was stopping it.
I appreciate the support.

ginjawarrior said:

funny did you miss the bit where nodrama said this?

cause with the photo's i just shown that lie glares out to me

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I was there, I watched bldg. 7 fall. It was difficult to see all of the damage from where we were that day, but I got a pretty good look at it, from multiple angles and was pretty confident, as was EVERY SINGLE FIREFIGHTER I talked to, it was going to come down hours before it collapsed.