The Seed Collectors Thread

[karmas a bitch]

Shit look at house of funk and the new seeduction company(that ecsdXappy sounds nice). I don't doubt that their gear is fire. Look at the males used. Bodhis. Weve talked about it a bunch. The stud is clutch. Look how successful sub has been cause of space dude and a few others.

 

[MonsterDrank]

The right male is hard to find... I know that in all my grows, and in all my time doing this I have come across maybe two that really looked like they would might have been killer.
I have one now I am on the fence with.

The right male being hardest to find according to Mr Soul of the Brothers Grimm has to exhibit the following traits-

1. Resistance to hermaphrodism
2. Vigor
3. Stature
4. Maturation rate

I remember reading this and thinking... well, that doesn't seem like to much to ask for? But it gets more complicated than that if you really want to create some dank.

The male has to be able to create some potency and that's one of the hardest things to determine when selecting a male. When you see pollen clusters start to get gooey and trichs form on your male specimen and he starts to frost up himself.. thats when you know you have the drug trait.

Beyond just all that criteria, he has to be tested.

Check out Spacedude. "If you look closely you can see the goo that binds the stamen together.."- Subcool
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I don't think breeders/chuckers put in close to the amount of work trying to find a male as they should. Most of what is out there, is subpar and average. The male has to have that drug trait.

 

[gudkarma]

hey the man is successful.
& his gear is validated by people who buy/grow/smoke it.

every good breeder willl have that go to guy (stud). its the rule of good breeding.

with bodhi, as mentioned, he has other lines & proven studs with which to play.

its not a critique about dude as much as its a comment about what he's doing & why.
im not buying all those snowlotus crosses or the hype of a super stud.

i should join breedbay & peep the scene there.
isnt that a pistils production?

 

[hellraizer30]

If you have a stud male there is absolutely no shame in whoring that he-bitch out.

Dam strait..!

 

[juts]

should i dispose my male that showed sex early? i can see some tiny balls[smaller size than a seed] on sidebranches its matured, growin alternate nodes but still on 18/6 i knew it! he was lookin male a week ago showed some bumps on the nodes. ima put them on 12/12 on the 16th

 

[Twisted Pleasure BX]

Can u take Male and cross it too an exceptional female look for another male and back cross it again and again, and with each generation build up a better and better male with each generation? Or is that not possible? Would you lose vigor?

 

[gudkarma]

^ what a ton of work.
^ and what a cool project

how will you know the first male is exceptional w/o crossing & growing out those beans, cataloging, harvesting, & smoking to see his power?

and every other male you find too.
if you really gonna do some shit with him.

makes me wonder how guys do it any other way.
& the dudes that have those bad boy males really got a leg up when it comes to pairings.

guys like bodhi, subby, e$ko, shanti (& others) have a 6th sense as to the power of a male they cross to fly mothers.
this is verified only through growing out beans, making different crosses, & peeping dom traits.

i did this a full year with e$ko.
the choc rain daddy passes many desirable traits to whatever his nut budda touches.
still found bunches of unknowns w/ very very very HOT milfy mothers ...which is why i asked about the 80% thing w/ bodhi.

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just put down a riot swing kid (chem d x bubba kush) tester into flower.

8 to 9 weeks & we'll all see whats what.
one week (+ ish) preveg.... nice beard... test container is 3/4 gallon... plant gets 400w & a flip as of now

& for sure, my alphadawg wants to be run 10 to 11 weeks.
got two on the table hitting 10 & getting more substance (dense) finally.

i hate the taste though.
sorry jay roller... just not me.

3 cheddawurst ...to keep you in my garden always ...are looking great !

 

[MonsterDrank]

Can u take Male and cross it too an exceptional female look for another male and back cross it again and again, and with each generation build up a better and better male with each generation? Or is that not possible? Would you lose vigor?

Inbreeding and selective breeding are tools most often used to increase Vigor in creating stock when trying to establish a line.

^ what a ton of work.
^ and what a cool project

how will you know the first male is exceptional w/o crossing & growing out those beans, cataloging, harvesting, & smoking to see his power?

and every other male you find too.
if you really gonna do some shit with him.

makes me wonder how guys do it any other way.
& the dudes that have those bad boy males really got a leg up when it comes to pairings.

guys like bodhi, subby, e$ko, shanti (& others) have a 6th sense as to the power of a male they cross to fly mothers.
this is verified only through growing out beans, making different crosses, & peep dom traits.

i did this a year with e$ko.
the choc rain daddy passes many desirable traits to whatever his nut budda touches.

still found bunches of unknowns ...which is why i asked about the 80% thing w/ bodhi.

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just put down a riot swing kid (chem d x bubba kush) tester into flower.

8 to 9 weeks & we'll all see whats what.
one week (+ ish) preveg.... nice bread... test container is 3/4 gallon.

& for sure, my alphadawg wants to be run 10 to 11 weeks.
got two on the table hitting 10 & getting more substance (dense) finally.

i hate the taste though.
sorry jay roller... just not me.
3 cheddawurst to keep you in my garden ...are looking great !

My buddy said his Alphadawg tasted like every chemical under the kitchen sink.. and while some like that.. not for me either. I am rather fond of the snowdawg of course, as I love the dawg hybrids... gonna give this Bubba love a try. Spacedawg is coming home soon. With the Princess.. I hope to find a couple fat girls soon to add to the stable and have one huge run finished by spring with one goal kept in mind... WEIGHT. I've never really ran one big one concentrating on weight and weight only.. but I ought to give it a try. I bet the my Dawg in a 5 gallon with a nice long veg and nugbuckets mainline technique would yield a shit ton.

 

[cotchept]

One of my Alphadawgs went 12 and the other 15 weeks. I liked the shorter flowering, chem d dominant one. The other was the crazy foxtailing sativa that took forever and didn't end up smelling or tasting like much. The Alphadawg does yield a good amount. Still have some beans left that I might run again now that i'm prepared for long flowering times and a lot of variation. Also have an Eisbaer outdoors and one indoors going right now.

 

[gudkarma]

im setting myself up for 2 back to back runs of spacedawg.

making a batch of coco tomorrow. gonna up-pot everything im finger banging.

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butter's bottom bitches : spacedawg & blue dream

new lineup : jack the ripper , nl#5 x tok , kolossus , whitedawg (2 phenos) , killa queen x nycd

for play : blue widow , ronnie james dio , hippy headband , allkush , swing kid , sunshine state chem variant

100% future add to lineup : bluechem , critical sensi star (u wanna laugh i know) , cheddawurst , afgomulan

 

[SketchyGrower]

It's sample cutting time...(as my stoner ass is damn near out of buds)...

snip...snip...snip popcorn away

on a sadder note.. I think I'm about done with Bio-Canna.... looking for a new base line now.

Dream lotus,A13xA11,and one of the Cali yo's (funk pheno) are all Yellowing out to the MaxX... at week 4 and 3. done fooling around with this organic for a hot minute.

TEAM YELLOW close up shots... (sorry for the non Gu/HM style on these )....

A13xA11 day 22

Cali Yo #4 (orange pheno) day 29 shit is like orange flint stone vitamins or a freshly smashed open clementine..

DreamLotus #3 (suspected blue dream dom) day 29 .. no smell coming off this lady yet and she has just keeps stacking up on the crystals

Cali Yo #2 (funk pheno) day 29 probably the worse off out of them all... (pirate face)

 

[MonsterDrank]

That's one problem I usually had quite a bit mid way thru bloom till the end, was hard to keep em green. One good thing I can say about the Lucas Method using Flora Nutes.. this problem has since disappeared mostly. The Flora Micro at 8ml/gal in bloom provides all the nitrogen my plants need.

 

[SketchyGrower]

That's one problem I usually had quite a bit mid way thru bloom till the end, was hard to keep em green. One good thing I can say about the Lucas Method using Flora Nutes.. this problem has since disappeared mostly. The Flora Micro at 8ml/gal in bloom provides all the nitrogen my plants need.

you have said this to me before... lolol time to experiment with it now

 

[dirk d]

Just picked up a pack of Blue Tara and Timewreck. Anyone have any thoughts on these??

 

[Tone Mudbone]

How do I get my rep up so it says mr. Ganja?

 

[tehgenoc1de]

I made an account over a week ago at TSD, did the activation on my part. Went to login tonight but it didn't recognize my username. Had to sign up again under the same username so it got deleted I guess? How do you get activated over there?

 

[MonsterDrank]

you have said this to me before... lolol time to experiment with it now

Have I? Thats funny.

I'm doing this.. its experimental but I feel it to be safe. as I am too learning the Lucas method. Did it once, underfed, wasnt too happy. I keep bumping it up but havent seen any burn. I also treat every other feeding with 1ml of Seagreen humic additive.

veg
5ml floramicro
12ml florabloom

early bloom
8ml floramicro
12ml florabloom
1/4 tsp open sesame dry powder

mid bloom weeks 2-7 of 12/12
8ml floramicro
12-14ml florabloom
1/4 tsp to 1/2 tsp beastie bloomz dry powder

late bloom
4ml floramicro
12ml florabloom
1/4 tsp cha ching dry powder

following with a flush

Its so hard for me to feed more than 15ml of any solution and not cringe in fear. So used to botanicare feedings. You go through way more Flora Bloom than you do Micro I can attest to that. Almost twice as much. Mixed my first batch of the above Early bloom today. PH reading came out at 6 without adding PH Down. I thought that was kinda cool.

 

[SketchyGrower]

Have I? Thats funny.

I'm doing this.. its experimental but I feel it to be safe. as I am too learning the Lucas method. Did it once, underfed, wasnt too happy. I keep bumping it up but havent seen any burn. I also treat every other feeding with 1ml of Seagreen humic additive.

veg
5ml floramicro
12ml florabloom

early bloom
8ml floramicro
12ml florabloom
1/4 tsp open sesame

mid bloom weeks 2-7 of 12/12
8ml floramicro
12-14ml florabloom
1/4 tsp beastie bloomz

late bloom
8ml floramicro
12ml florabloom
1/4 tsp cha ching

hmm... think maybe I be stoned. could have sworn you said something about the lucas to me like months ago..lol

 

[MonsterDrank]

probably. I rant quite a bit. usually when I'm on something..which is quite often.

 

[bombudburner]

Just picked up a pack of Blue Tara and Timewreck. Anyone have any thoughts on these??

I'll let you know more about the blue tara in a few weeks when I start getting smelly buds. All through veg, and especially now a week into flowering, one of my two females has been stinking like skunky kush. It smells like skunk from a distance and really smells when disturbed. There's an added kushy butter smell from a stem rub. Honestly, I'd be happy if I got those smells from the buds, and there's still a possibility of some blueberry in the mix. It also has quite a bit of purpling on the stems.(85F day, 70-75F night) I have high hopes for that one. The other one is more bubba dom in structure/growth/leaves and doesn't have any odor yet.