The Reckoning

As a cannabis user I have had enough of being told that I cannot smoke or grow a perfectly harmless drug...

I have also realised that if we are going to stop this absurdity that it must be a united effort. We must all stand together, no fear, and say NO. We decide what is right and wrong, the people.

To do this we all need to focus on a particular date. The actual date is unimportant, although near to spring would be good. This is about crippling a country's defences by working together, with so many of us all standing at once they wouldn't have the power to stop us...

I realise spring comes at different times in different parts of the world... but so long as we are united and all agree to do the same thing.

We have the US, we have the UK, we have Europe, Australasia... This could be done.

We're in a war are we? This is what they call it. Well this is how we win it.

This thread is a feeler, to guage how you feel about making this stand. It includes all of us. Not just, 'yeah it's a good idea, but...' We need to make this real, and I believe it can be done.

This isn't just about cannabis, by taking this action we will change the way an ordinary man perceives the world he lives in. We will have made a stand. No more bullshit, let's hear the truth.

The word must be spread, but are we all for it?

Also this would need to be gotten into the news long before the date... to get people thinking, and wanting to join. The debate would be intensified like at no other point in time...

Would they cave in before the date, or wait and see what happens?

Belief is a powerful tool when used in the right way.

I'm all for something like this to try and get weed legalized. But, I'm not sure if a massive grow is the way to go. I don't want my outdoor crop getting pollenated. I was thinking of something more violent. Thoughts?
We need to do something but is this the way to go about it?
J/K about the violence, although I wish.

If it is well publicised and enough people take part, we should win before the set date anyway.

I doubt though, that there are many with the balls.

Really though, if we all stand... there's nothing they can do.

I bet if all the tokers/people who think its harmless in the US stopped work for one day it would show that there are more of us then they think.


And 4/20 doesn't count. lol

I don't think the 3 of us could make a difference.

It seems that mm users are content with having permission to grow, and we are content with risking prison every time we do.

If this site is anything to go by, there is no fight in the cannabis community. No true desire to stand up for what we believe is right.

skunkushybrid said:

I don't think the 3 of us could make a difference.

It seems that mm users are content with having permission to grow, and we are content with risking prison every time we do.

If this site is anything to go by, there is no fight in the cannabis community. No true desire to stand up for what we believe is right.

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Fuck. There's only three of us?
You may be right, I think ppl are too content.
I bet ya it's b/c they've never gone to jail for it. Once you spend long enough in jail for a fucking plant, your ready to stand up fight.

There's another point. If we FORCED legalisation, they'd have to release everyone that's in prison for growing.

If we all joined together there's nothing they could do.

Well yuh! I've never been to jail, been busted for anything and don't ever plan to regardless of whether or not I get an mm card.

I'm also gonna keep growing and smoking regardless.

I'm not saying this isn't doable but it would be a long process in the making.

iblazethatkush said:

Fuck. There's only three of us?
You may be right, I think ppl are too content.
I bet ya it's b/c they've never gone to jail for it. Once you spend long enough in jail for a fucking plant, your ready to stand up fight.

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Yeah, you haven't hurt anybody. you're just growing a plant and harvesting it yourself.

You get jail for that, kidnapped and held alongside psychopaths... treated with disrespect by the police and prison guards... it's gonna piss you off.

The world needs to change, and if we don't do it who will? Why should we live in fear of the police or authorities that might just take away our rights to grow at any moment?

We all know it isn't right.

It totally sucks. its one more thing the goverments got total control of as usual but the consequences are HUGE!!!
Some people have gotten away with murder for less.
It is rediculous but who is gonna be the first to stand ground.
There needs to be a way to take some of our power back without the chance of being locked up. I mean, I'm all for supporting the right cause but not if it means risking my family. They mean more to me than the weed.

I do think the world is changing. Look how far weed has come to how it was viewed years ago with 'reefer maddness' and all that garbage.

skunkushybrid said:

Yeah, you haven't hurt anybody. you're just growing a plant and harvesting it yourself.

You get jail for that, kidnapped and held alongside psychopaths... treated with disrespect by the police and prison guards... it's gonna piss you off.

The world needs to change, and if we don't do it who will? Why should we live in fear of the police or authorities that might just take away our rights to grow at any moment?

We all know it isn't right.

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the government work hard to bring out scientific claims that take years to disprove... and then they are usually disproved by the cannabis community themselves.

Yes, we have a larger voice now... which is why this would be the ideal time to strike. I don't see how we could lose our liberty. They don't have enough prisons.

Then it's in the news, they lock so and so up but his neighbour's still right on growing... so's Charlie down the road, and Michael up the hill. The prisons in my country are full, where they going to put us all?

We just all need to stand firm.

This isn't a fight we can lose. They will have no choice but to make it legal because we will make the choice for them.

it is a fight we could lose. each of us can lose bigtime. our houses, cars, family, freedom. i really think you're going about this the wrong way, skunk.

in the u.s. laws are changed by enough people getting behind them. if there is a vast majority of the citizens who want change, change can be affected.

you do not change a law, by breaking the law. you use the law to change the law. you get EVERYONE who is favorable to speak out, put the inititive on the ballot, and vote on it. if it gets turned down, you do it again and again and again untill they hear us.

this is how prohibition of alcohol was changed. what you're not getting is that there does not seem to be enough people raising their voice for canabis legalization. we're not the majority of the population, as was the case for alcohol.

Yes, I think so too. This is why i mentioned a specific date. This gives time for the word to spread.

This would even help the government, our co2 emissions would drop right down... the crime rate would fall drastically. Not just in regards to cannabis, but it is no lie that if there is no weed around violent crime goes up. So I see a reduction in crime right across the scale.

Another upside, if it ever happens, is that we as common men and women, will have shown that we really do wield the power. The government should not be separate from us, but actually be a representation of us.

They smoke weed too, with the times as they are it would be a good time to strike.

Yes i agree with you HUGELY on this and this would be the biggest concern for most people and should be BUT there is a way around it. WE could.....

closet.cult said:

it is a fight we could lose. each of us can lose bigtime. our houses, cars, family, freedom. i really think you're going about this the wrong way, skunk.

in the u.s. laws are changed by enough people getting behind them. if there is a vast majority of the citizens who want change, change can be affected.

you do not change a law, by breaking the law. you use the law to change the law. you get EVERYONE who is favorable to speak out, put the inititive on the ballot, and vote on it. if it gets turned down, you do it again and again and again untill they hear us.

this is how prohibition of alcohol was changed. what you're not getting is that there does not seem to be enough people raising their voice for canabis legalization. we're not the majority of the population, as was the case for alcohol.

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closet.cult said:

this is how prohibition of alcohol was changed. what you're not getting is that there does not seem to be enough people raising their voice for canabis legalization. we're not the majority of the population, as was the case for alcohol.

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There's not enough people because we fear what you fear.

alcohol prohibition was changed because the government wanted the money the gangs were reaping in... I don't care how they try and butter it up.

Who are the government? Are they royalty, or are they you and me? They may threaten to hang us, but if enough of us stand at once the rope and the threat is useless.

Where I'm from we are the majority of the population.

This doesn't stop at weed forums, there are people that don't even like weed that agree it should be legalised, and that the government HAVE NO RIGHT to tell us we can't grow it.

This is why the media in my country, very recently brought out a report that one toke of a joint will cause some type of psychosis. This was national news, newspapers... everything. Idiots were talking about it like they actually knew what they were talking about.

The power should be with the people, and I believe our voices are large enough, and our numbers great enough to make the stand.

people at NORML have been fighting for decades for cannabis prohibition repeal. they had Carl Sagan and his wife Anne on their side. She still sits on the board and they've gotten nowhere. but they ARE fighting from the legal side, which is the correct way to approach this.

what we need is a larger % of the population to agree with us. we need to affect the population.

financial benifits is a very good argument. the governement would save millions on not incarcerating mj users. BUT, call me cinical but i truly believe that mj is illegal BECAUSE it brings in millions to fight it! our tax dollars pay for police and judges and prisons and lawyers.

canada pisses me off too because they had the right, rational idea regarding cannabis and they let the u.s. strong arm them politically into stepping up their laws. they were on their way to legalization.