The philosophy thread

[Heisenberg]

Thanks heisenberg, unfortunately I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue against you lol

Ha. Nonsense, there are many criticisms of cognitive dissonance theory. Some of them quite valid. It's not a complete explanation, however it is likely the foundation that a better explanation will be built on. In fact, anyone who reads the book I recommended should then immediately read Why Everyone (Else) Is A Hypocrite, which points out some holes in CD theory and offers its own explanations.

But, as much as I love to argue, I didn't post to start an argument. I posted because I really think it's important for people to understand CD theory, not as an ultimate truth, but as a construct which helps us to improve thinking. That would seem to be one of the goals of philosophy, though certainly not the only one.

 

[Heisenberg]

Define your understanding of reality.

Dude, how boring would that be? It's like listening to someone else talk about the dream they had last night. Do you really want to hear me spew on about my personal view of reality? Maybe something more specific would be more interesting. The only broad belief I have about reality is that the more accurately we understand it, the more successfully we can navigate through it.

 

[New Age United]

Alright heisenberg I'll definitely check out the books, I've been told by @tyler.durden that I need to work on my critical thinking.

Define your understanding of reality.

Reddan bro what's up, while heisenberg may find it a boring subject I am interested to know your understanding of reality, can you define reality? What is real? What is truth?

@Heisenberg are those questions specific enough or no? Your always free to chime in I greatly respect your intellect and knowledge.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

So I've met a lot of very intelligent people on here

Really? Where on here?

Well something interesting? Hmm.

Why is there so much debate about different people with different grow techniques? I mean, how can one method be better than another of both are successful using different lights, medium, nutes, set ups? How can a micro guy comment on a commercial guy?

Just seems that many of the debates are crap and I take little away from them except for the humor in online people going o battle and the witty insults. Fruitless maybe, but somewhat entertaining sometimes.

 

[Dyster]

Reality, now that's something that's seen differently in every single human daily.
Reality, if I am in the woods escaping one reality for a hour and half or so,
I am still, dealing with reality in order to help with the 100 other realitys,
We deal with daily. I got one reality to lump all mine together,
Life is hard.

Hey some people never face true reality, that is their reality.

 

[New Age United]

Really? Where on here?

Well something interesting? Hmm.

Why is there so much debate about different people with different grow techniques? I mean, how can one method be better than another of both are successful using different lights, medium, nutes, set ups? How can a micro guy comment on a commercial guy?

Just seems that many of the debates are crap and I take little away from them except for the humor in online people going o battle and the witty insults. Fruitless maybe, but somewhat entertaining sometimes.

Tyler.durden, heisenberg, @Padawanbater2 some of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Ya there's a sit load of crap on here let's try to sift through and find some good interesting debate or if you just want to share your perspective then shoot.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Yeah man you're right. This thread sucks. Wonder if eBay sells personality? Don't mind me. I'm just stoned! Peace and love.

 

[New Age United]

Yeah man you're right. This thread sucks. Wonder if eBay sells personality? Don't mind me. I'm just stoned! Peace and love.

I love your fucking sarcasm man it gets me lol

 

[tyler.durden]

Dude, how boring would that be? It's like listening to someone else talk about the dream they had last night. Do you really want to hear me spew on about my personal view of reality? Maybe something more specific would be more interesting. The only broad belief I have about reality is that the more accurately we understand it, the more successfully we can navigate through it.

I can't speak for others, but I would LOVE to hear all about your personal view of reality. Or really anything for that matter Miss you, Heis. Great to see you around...

P.S. I dig perusing your pseudoscience site and FB page from time to time. You and your very sexy partner are certainly fighting the good fight...

 

[tyler.durden]

Alright heisenberg I'll definitely check out the books, I've been told by @tyler.durden that I need to work on my critical thinking.

I've learned a LOT about critical thought and the scientific method from Heisenberg. I highly recommend you listen carefully to what he has to say. He was known as The Glacier because he is nearly immovable in debate. Look up his debates from a few years ago, the way he decimated opponents was art...

Reddan bro what's up, while heisenberg may find it a boring subject I am interested to know your understanding of reality, can you define reality? What is real? What is truth?

I've seen the reddan show already. It's earnest but misguided. Smart dude, but he uses his powers for evil I'll sit that one out...

 

[Heisenberg]

Alright heisenberg I'll definitely check out the books, I've been told by @tyler.durden that I need to work on my critical thinking.

Well, those books are sorta advanced critical thinking, sometimes referred to as meta-cognition. I am confident that they are not beyond your ability to understand, but I would recommend saving them for later to build on a more basic understanding of critical thinking. You may want to start with Demon Haunted World or Why People Believe Weird Things. Then move on to Thinking Fast and Slow. All of the books I mentioned are available in audio format via torrents.

Here is a simplified summary of Thinking Fast and Slow.

Also a great primer is available from The Great Courses called Your Deceptive Mind. It's sometimes available for free on youtube, although the link is up and down because it's copyrighted. It's a 14hr lecture series that covers the basics of critical thinking. If you are unfamiliar with the concepts it can be a lot to take in, but it's a great way to get introduced to them.

 

[Heisenberg]

I can't speak for others, but I would LOVE to hear all about your personal view of reality. Or really anything for that matter Miss you, Heis. Great to see you around...

P.S. I dig perusing your pseudoscience site and FB page from time to time. You and your very sexy partner are certainly fighting the good fight...

Glad you find the site engaging. I've missed these conversations too. Facebook is great for practicing argumentation, but it's always the same circular arguments over and over. Although it offers a great way to reach people, trying to teach critical thinking to social media is like trying to teach a classroom where anyone can wonder in and out at any time. There is no practical way for lessons to build on each other, as it is always the first day of class for much of the audience. I like these deeper conversations where everyone can get to know each other.

 

[reddan1981]

Reddan bro what's up, while heisenberg may find it a boring subject I am interested to know your understanding of reality, can you define reality? What is real? What is truth?

Have you heard of the Tasaday tribe? Well using them as an example ( they were later found to be a fraud) imagine a tribe that lived in the jungle, for eight centuries untouched from colonial influence. Living in their primitive state, under their own systems of order.

What if we were to ask them what 'truths' are relevant to their reality?

What is defined as 'real' is in abstract allegory, with the sole purpose of creating a condition in us to conform to Empirical structure. Reality for an individual in it's most primordial state, is nothing more than an interpretation of electrical signals.

 

[Dyster]

Hello my educated friends, I sworn I would not be scared off by your intellect.
Can not reach some of those heights but at 56 and still not drooling
On myself I am still open to learn.

Man is a animal, and we are jealous creatures.(reality)
I think men in power, in the states,I am talking, because that is want I know,
Underestimate what man is capable of as far as animal instincts and survival.
Will IMHO be caught with their pants down.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Glad you find the site engaging. I've missed these conversations too. Facebook is great for practicing argumentation, but it's always the same circular arguments over and over. Although it offers a great way to reach people, trying to teach critical thinking to social media is like trying to teach a classroom where anyone can wonder in and out at any time. There is no practical way for lessons to build on each other, as it is always the first day of class for much of the audience. I like these deeper conversations where everyone can get to know each other.

Link it up please.

 

[reddan1981]

Hello my educated friends, I sworn I would not be scared off by your intellect.
Can not reach some of those heights but at 56 and still not drooling
On myself I am still open to learn.

Man is a animal, and we are jealous creatures.(reality)
I think men in power, in the states,I am talking, because that is want I know,
Underestimate what man is capable of as far as animal instincts and survival.
Will IMHO be caught with their pants down.

We are more than animal's my friend, we are the most precious, intricate forms of life in existence. We are an expression of nature, it's own creation to observe and understand itself. None of us are above or below each other my mate.

 

[New Age United]

We are more than animal's my friend, we are the most precious, intricate forms of life in existence. We are an expression of nature, it's own creation to observe and understand itself. None of us are above or below each other my mate.

I agree with you from a subjective perspective but I'm gonna argue your last to posts tonight.

 

[Dyster]

We are more than animal's my friend, we are the most precious, intricate forms of life in existence. We are an expression of nature, it's own creation to observe and understand itself. None of us are above or below each other my mate.

The amount of human carnage Going on world wide,I have to question how well we are
Observing and understanding anything except the strong rule the weak.

 

[torontoke]

The amount of human carnage Going on world wide,I have to question how well we are
Observing and understanding anything except the strong rule the weak.

It's a matter or perspective.
It's not surprising considering mankind has seemed to put all of their eggs into one basket. Furthering technology and making everyday Mundane life easier than it was previously.
Eventually the focus should shift or evolve in human conscience to finally achieve 46 and 2.

 

[reddan1981]

The amount of human carnage Going on world wide,I have to question how well we are
Observing and understanding anything except the strong rule the weak.

All part of this 'reality' that this system brings, unfortunately.