The party of hate and violence.

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Olive Drab Green said:
Violence is pretty well-ingrained in the pursuit of American freedom and culture, though. When all else fails, fight back. Nothing wrong with that, as long as all other peaceful means have been exhausted. C'est la vie Américain.
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Nothing wrong with defensive force, it should always be an option, but if it can be avoided, I'd opt for that.

The only entity which can legally use offensive force are the government thugs...gee go figure. Nobody should use offensive force, it's not a legitimate means, even if you have a badge or call yourself Senator.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Uncle Ben said:
I didn't think you would get it.

They do have the right to protest as guaranteed by the Constitution, peacefully. That doesn't include blocking roads and interferring with the 1st Amendment.
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You are incorrect about the protesters not having the right to interfere with Trump's right to speak. The 1st amendment only applies to government suppression of free speech. Protests of Trump's hate speech isn't a crime.

You are right about the legality of blocking roads during an organized protest. Which is why these protests devolved into police confrontations with the crowd once it is declared an illegal assembly in part because they blocked roads. As I said, what did you expect, a kumbayah gathering around a fountain?
 
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ThickStemz

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Fogdog said:
You are incorrect about the protesters not having the right to interfere with Trump's right to speak. The 1st amendment only applies to government suppression of free speech. Protests of Trump's hate speech isn't a crime.

You are right about the legality of blocking roads during an organized protest. Which is why these protests devolved into police confrontations with the crowd once it is declared an illegal assembly in part because they blocked roads. As I said, what did you expect, a kumbayah gathering around a fountain?
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If trump is outside talking, they have a right to shout over his voice. It's stupid and rude and wrong in many ways, but not legally.

If trump is in a private facility, and legally permitted by the owner to be there for the purpose of speaking, it's a violation of the property rights of the owner of break in and do the same thing.
 
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ThickStemz

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Dumme said:
I've read it in multiple places in this thread. For god sake, please learn where "America" is.
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Do they not teach basic Geography in scool these days?

This this the "US" of America:
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If you're going to go to great lengths to correct someone and be really dramatic and condescending about it, you ought to take care to be correct.

What you circle on that map is not any more accurately "America" than the short hand refrence to the USA is.

Specifically, there is no just "America."

What you have circled is North America and South America, as well as the Caribbean Sea with all its Islands and Greenland.

You aren't just wrong once, you're wrong twice. You've confused definition with usage. Around the world, when the word America is said, almost no one thinks of the New World continents. World wide when someone says America the understood meaning is the United States of America.
 
Dumme

Dumme

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ThickStemz said:
If you're going to go to great lengths to correct someone and be really dramatic and condescending about it, you ought to take care to be correct.

What you circle on that map is not any more accurately "America" than the short hand refrence to the USA is.

Specifically, there is no just "America."

What you have circled is North America and South America, as well as the Caribbean Sea with all its Islands and Greenland.

You aren't just wrong once, you're wrong twice. You've confused definition with usage. Around the world, when the word America is said, almost no one thinks of the New World continents. World wide when someone says America the understood meaning is the United States of America.
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Wrong again.
Clearly they don't teach history either.
 
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Dumme

Dumme

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America was named after Vespucci Americus, with an "A" on the end to be feminized, as he was in Brazil.
 
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