The oldest plant looks the worst. Any inputs?

Winkey

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So. The tired plant on the right is an auto white widow that popped out on october 16. The big lady is an auto blue mystic that s a week and a half younger. And the one in the back is the youngest. (1 nov, also ignore its one burnt leaf, i accidentally spilled some hydrogen peroxide on it and couldnt dry it properly, afraid of ripping it).

Anyway, the 2nd picture is 3 days old but i uploaded it anyway cause the difference is clearer. The widow is not growing in height, it s growing sideways, kind of, its really small, its leaves are small, it feels like it s a cluster of small leaves just growing sideways very slowly. Its my first time grow so ive got no clue what could be wrong. Googling just gives the same symptoms for all problems almost. The poor thing just looks like it s struggling and ive no clue on what to do. I did overwater them twice during the first 2 weeks but they both had the same amount of water. Im a newbie but im supposing it s not normal for the older one to look like that compared to its younger sibling. Light is 20/4 led. Humidity 50% ish sometimes 65 after watering. Routinely check for mold and pests, only thing present is some algae from time to time, but they die off quickly when it dries off between watering. I use 1 ml/l biogrow, just started 1 ml buibloom and soil is biobizz light top layer and allmix bottom layer. Id like your input on what could be wrong with it and what i can do to remedy the problem. Ordered a ph meter to check ph and make sure it s fine. (Bit late, my bad). But since i used the same soil and water shouldnt they both react the same? Any help is much appreciated. Honestly the widow looked bad ever since it was little, but i didnt realize iit back then. The last picture is when it was 3 weeks old. I only realized it was sick all along when i compared it to how the other 2 looked at that age. Or how the little one looks now. Oh well, all i can do now is figure out what went wrong and learn from mistakes. Also, when watering i use 2 liters till waters starts coming out of the bottom holes, then wait for it to dry off. Is that the right way? Cheers everyone!
 

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inDC4now

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Hi @Winkey and welcome to Roll It Up. Your pictures are hard to see with the purple light. Plants do not need the same amount of water, we want them to, but each plant is different and certainly each stain is different.

Did you recently transplant? This can slow vertical growth as the plants focus on roots.

You mentioned your humidity -- where are your temperatures? Low temps can contribute to slower growth.

You are mixing fertilizers into your water but you don't know what the pH is. How about the concentration of the solution, measured in EC or ppm?

You've got some complexity here. I do not know your substrate, biobizz light on top. I read that it is HOT, that there are fertilizers or something for nutrition pre-mixed with stuff, so it is a HOT substrate with an EC of 1.2 right out of the bag. Then you have an even HOTer substrate below it and now you've begun adding 1ml of some bloom ?? Isn't this for the flowering stage, when you flip your light schedule from 18/6 to 12/12 ??

What do you mean by "then wait for it to dry off" with your watering scheme? What does "dry off" mean?
 

Winkey

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I uploaded the pics without the light as requested. Positions are still same. The one on the right is the oldest one and the smallest. (Auto white).

@inDC4now thanks for pointing that out. I figured it was fine as long as they showed no sign of overwatering like they did at first. I probably was wrong in thinking it was a general rule to water till it comes out the bottom when they re grown up.

No transplant as transplating autos is not recommended.

Temps are ok when lights are on, always between 25 and 30. They tend to go down to a min of 22 when they re off.

As for biogrow and bloom i ll admit ive got no clue about complex stuff, still a newbie, ill look into what you mentioned. Note that i ve lowered the recommended dose to half from the start because someone recommended it with allmix. And yes not getting a ph meter was a mistake. they re hard to come by where i live and i was like ill be fine lol. Big mistake.

Yeah bloom is for flowering. But they are autos, no need to switch light schedule. They already started flowering stage.

What i mean by that is that i wait for the top of the soil to dry out and stick my finger about 1 cm on the side to check if it s still pretty wet. Recently i started realizing if they need water by lifting the pot up after doing that to check its weight. Thank you for taking the time to trt and help! Really appreciate it!
 

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Renfro

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Take some pics without the blurples running. It will make diagnosing any issues much easier.
Yeah I saw that and was like fuck it. lol

Recently i started realizing if they need water by lifting the pot up after doing that to check its weight. Thank you for taking the time to trt and help! Really appreciate it!
Yep, water heavy when the soil is dry and no sooner.
 

inDC4now

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You look OK @Winkey -- Maybe take a breath, relax and let the girls do their thing. Just keep an eye on them, they will let you know what they need you to do. Less is more! Good luck!!
 
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