Question on the Bio line. I am thinking of running Organic Start to finish and I was thinking about using Canna's Bio line of products (namely because I use them now). So if I go with the Bio line, are the only things I need to use the Bio Flora & Vega and Boost? Nothing for Enzymatic breakdown or roots? Also, can I still use Coco Pro with these nutrients from a hydro drip system from a bottom fed resivor?
The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread
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streetlegal
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sweet, thats another tidbit ive been searching for, optimum co2 level during late flowering..
yeh WB from Para fem, never grown it b4.., i know its an 8 week strain but ive found that alot of strains can get better with another 1-2weeks.. so pk start of week3 so i suppose u could say another 4,5 or 6 weeks...
Yeh i set my co2 at 1200, which usually means it cuts off at 12 and wanders up to 1500 then slowly comes down..
Ill lower it tonight to 600, thatll also save me $$ on co2..
Thanks jberry
oh and i have 2 phenos, 1 ultra tricd out metallic-vomit sweet rott, the other not a keeper, less trics, same smell but not near as strong
streetlegal
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well arent i glad i talked to that guy^^
thanks man, ill chop them at 7.5.. so im guessing the pistils will still be predominatley white
jberry
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Im sure you could get by just fine without the enzyme supplement.
They do make Bio-Cannazym, but im not sure if its available in the US but maybe you could find it online... If you look around you may be able to find a organic enzyme product or you can try using a enzyme producing beneficial bacteria.
Ive heard that using bio boost in a drip irrigation system can be problematic unless you run some clean water through after each feeding to keep your lines clear... you could probably use something like Drip Clean instead, but i doubt that its organic.
jberry
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no, mine are mostly brown/orange by then...
streetlegal
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sweet,.. so the pic didnt work n now its gone..no, mine are mostly brown/orange by then...
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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Whats up Jberry, nice thread bro!
Ive been doing some research on what nutes to use for my current grow. I was going to go with some AN heavy harvest but now im second guessing myself due to all the good rep i hear about Canna's products. Thing is i cant find a store on the east coast, so shipping is killing me coming from Cali.
Anyone know any stores online that carry Canna products and are located on or near the east coast?
Ive been doing some research on what nutes to use for my current grow. I was going to go with some AN heavy harvest but now im second guessing myself due to all the good rep i hear about Canna's products. Thing is i cant find a store on the east coast, so shipping is killing me coming from Cali.
Anyone know any stores online that carry Canna products and are located on or near the east coast?
jberry
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WB cut at 53 days...
its a decent yielder but mostly smaller nugs... The fan leaves and the very top colas usually turn purple in the last week or two (even in hot temps) and the rest of the flowers stay a really light green.
You may find that you want to remove the very lowest nugs/branches early on because they never seem to mature even when given extra time.
you may end up with some different phenos that have different needs, but the few phenos i kept are all 7-8 weekers (one of my phenos looks exactly like the paradise pic, and I also got a good lemony-berry scented pheno)
jberry
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Im in Cali so I'm not sure about that one.
I think you can find a distributor near you threw a search engine on the Canna website... I would try that.
If you cant find Canna then I would try finding/using Van De Zwaan House & Garden or Cutting Edge Solutions... Or something else with a good reputation that isn't too high in K... Most anything found in a hydro store is way overpriced (including the brands I listed), but AN is one of the biggest scammers imo and is not something I would recommend for several reasons...-not saying it wont work though.
jrad092
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Jberry I get confused when mixing nutrients. I make my mix in 5 gallon buckets using RO water like I said. I get confused on how much nutrient to put in.
Do I add enough nutrients just for 1 gallon of water where I add no other nutrients and then keep mixing a gallon of water with other nutrients and adding it all together and checking PH regularly? Or do I add enough nutrients for 5 gallons of water and just basically add all my other nutrients on top of it?
basically, are there any tips you can share with me when mixing nutrients? Im using COGr A+b and rhizotonic
Do I add enough nutrients just for 1 gallon of water where I add no other nutrients and then keep mixing a gallon of water with other nutrients and adding it all together and checking PH regularly? Or do I add enough nutrients for 5 gallons of water and just basically add all my other nutrients on top of it?
basically, are there any tips you can share with me when mixing nutrients? Im using COGr A+b and rhizotonic
streetlegal
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jberry,.. this is some harvest pics,. no purple for me
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/321392-white-berry-harvest-pics.html
jberry
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Im a little confused by your question but I recommend filling your nutrient tank with water, then calculate how much of each nutrient you want to use, and add them one at a time to your water... You can add the Canna nutrient line in any order you want but if you are using anything with a lot of calcium (like cal/mag) then that should be added first (Calcium can destroy and lock out other nutrients when added last)... After adding any products high in calcium, then I like to add the Rhizotonic next due to its high pH which can cause the nutrient solution to precipitate and become unavailable to the roots.
Add the nutes slowly, one at a time, and stir along the way for best results...After mixing, adjust the pH and let them sit for a couple of hours (or least 20 minutes if at all possible). Check and re-adjust pH if needed and your good to go.
Add the nutes slowly, one at a time, and stir along the way for best results...After mixing, adjust the pH and let them sit for a couple of hours (or least 20 minutes if at all possible). Check and re-adjust pH if needed and your good to go.
streetlegal
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thanks man, i appreciate the comments.. 55 days today pulled at lights on, so i guess 54 days..
i got 3 phenos, 1 im calling dairy berry, man its so good, was the original metallic puke smelling pheno, turned into such sweet smelling berry yoghurt, it honestly reminded me of dairy desert.. and i couldnt cop the smell too much man, it kinda made me feel sickly sick, and its frostiest and the top yielder
..2nd pheno which was more or less the same except slightly less smell, less frost, almost same yield but easiest to trim
the 3rd pheno was my least fave, straight lemon, least frost, least dense, showed heat stress..although still very vigourous..
Danthebull
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Hi everyone,
Im using the CANNA product line. This is my first grow. Its day 24 flower. I have 8 x armageddon, 8 x White Russian and 8 x PPP. Each is in a 45 liter ( 9 gallon ) square pot. I veged for 5 weeks from clone. And im using 3 x 600w HPS and supplimenting these lights with 2 x 125 CFL red spectrum lights.
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/302501-hi-everyone-my-first-grow.html
Dan
Im using the CANNA product line. This is my first grow. Its day 24 flower. I have 8 x armageddon, 8 x White Russian and 8 x PPP. Each is in a 45 liter ( 9 gallon ) square pot. I veged for 5 weeks from clone. And im using 3 x 600w HPS and supplimenting these lights with 2 x 125 CFL red spectrum lights.
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/302501-hi-everyone-my-first-grow.html
Dan
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streetlegal
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yeh crazy is the word.. someone told me to expect the WB smell to turn to turpentine after drying..
funny thing was the night u told me u got berry from urs was the night i noticed the metallic gone and the berry come on, i got my bro in to confirm, makin sure it wasnt placebo affect lol..
i wish luc would release his strain lineages.
Next up is LUI coco run to find a mummy, i got 30 popped, (also some magic bud, sensi star and 1 aurora indica which im not too fussed about)
funny thing was the night u told me u got berry from urs was the night i noticed the metallic gone and the berry come on, i got my bro in to confirm, makin sure it wasnt placebo affect lol..
i wish luc would release his strain lineages.
Next up is LUI coco run to find a mummy, i got 30 popped, (also some magic bud, sensi star and 1 aurora indica which im not too fussed about)
jrad092
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Im a little confused by your question but I recommend filling your nutrient tank with water, then calculate how much of each nutrient you want to use, and add them one at a time to your water... You can add the Canna nutrient line in any order you want but if you are using anything with a lot of calcium (like cal/mag) then that should be added first (Calcium can destroy and lock out other nutrients when added last)... After adding any products high in calcium, then I like to add the Rhizotonic next due to its high pH which can cause the nutrient solution to precipitate and become unavailable to the roots.
Add the nutes slowly, one at a time, and stir along the way for best results...After mixing, adjust the pH and let them sit for a couple of hours (or least 20 minutes if at all possible). Check and re-adjust pH if needed and your good to go.
cool thanks, thats what I was looking for in a response, sorry if i confused you. I made a new batch of veg nutrients with 12 ml per galon of COGr A+B, 10 ML of Rhizotonic per galon and 10Ml/gal of Cannazym along with 5ml per gallon of cal/mag. Hopefully my girls will start showing signs of improvement.
The only issue im having is with PH now. I have a basic PH test meter and it is sort of hard to tell when its at 5.8, I get it down to a yellowish orange color So I think it should be around 5.8. Im giving them a few days so well find out!! Thanks again for all your help Jberry i really appreciate it dude
Oh and Jberry I downgraded from 1000w system to a 400w... My plants were frying under it. Temp is usually around 78 during the day and 68-70 at night with a 30-50% humidity, it goes up a bit after i spray them ; )