the next farmers market ???

Chronicseeker said:

They can obtain from other dispensaries as well.

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And from caregivers I talked with him for a bit. Seemed real nice to me he is a doctor.

Good to hear some more first hand..
Seems the doc is fumbling in the dark just a little, but w/ good intentions.

irieie said:

And from caregivers I talked with him for a bit. Seemed real nice to me he is a doctor.

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I didn't have the chance to meet the Doctor. But this is the first time hearing they can accept meds from Caregivers.

"Nothing in value exchanged" rule still applies to caregivers providing to dispensaries...

Caregivers are limited to their 5 qualifying patients only for reimbursement. A caregiver may give freely to other patients/caregivers but this does not protect the caregivers if receiving compensation, donations, or transfer of an item in "exchange" for the medicine, clones so on...

the police & the DEA have MMJ IDs - combined efforts by phx pd & dea = conflict of interest.


Read the AzMMA...

swaggersDlite said:

I thought you said you never had a table there before...???

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I said I do not run a table there, correct. I can't. I never said that my guys don't.

Chronicseeker said:

There is a big supplier planning on opening up north in Dec, they are going to severely surpass 50k in lighting. If this goes down they will be the supply line for majority of the state, possibly even the Tucson hopefuls. They purchased a multi-million dollar building solely for growing and they have cultivators ready to go. If this program does take off in AZ this group is at the forefront of supply. They are gonna tax other non-profits out the ass because they are banking on the fact that nobody is willing nor knows how to grow.

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I know guys bigger than that that have been in operation for a year already. That is not even close to supplying for the whole state. LOL

I have personally been in 3 facilities that were 5000sf+ in the past week just working and can honestly say, none of them have any plans to move meds to anyplace but their own Dispensaries.

Lucius Vorenus said:

I know guys bigger than that that have been in operation for a year already. That is not even close to supplying for the whole state. LOL

I have personally been in 3 facilities that were 5000sf+ in the past week just working and can honestly say, none of them have any plans to move meds to anyplace but their own Dispensaries.

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Yeah man I cant see dispensaries selling to eachother why would they? They are direct competitors why sale to eachother when they can get the premium from the patients?

We are a long way away from any of them opening up and STAYING open for a long time to come - especially in Maricopa County. I will accept all reasonable wagers.

BeaverHuntr said:

Yeah man I cant see dispensaries selling to eachother why would they? They are direct competitors why sale to eachother when they can get the premium from the patients?

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There are a couple who are thinking about it but the problem is, they want to charge $2500-3000lb. The problem with that model is its NOT sustainable to buy at that price and sell a TAXED product, with overhead and $5000yr fee's, tons of other costs and requirments. That turns a non-profit biz that they think will be profitable, into something not profitable.

Dispensaries who are growing 99 plants or not growing at all due to fear or lack of ability will be buying product from the suppliers, whoever they may be, just to keep their doors open.

People will definitely be buying medicine at $2500-$3000 esp. if that is the only option, quality will not matter if the market is dry. Think about it, 350 a zip retail is more than a double up on a 2500 lb. Easy money if you are just selling and have very minimal operational costs.

People will always pay for dank. If they are not paying then its not as dank as one may have thought. A huge facility does not mean dank. If they have been in operation then where is the dank? Everything else is just bullshit. Bud talks and that's all I am starting to listen to these days instead of peoples stories. Especially since everyone has one.

"The bud speaks for itself." Perfect Words...
And all the talking that goes on in AZ warrants very little walking.

So what happens if a dispensary opens and then is closed for....let's say unlawful activities, does that mean everyone within that 25 mile radius can't grow? I mean they wouldn't be operating anymore but what if one opened and still on file. I wonder what the state will do with that. Too much back and forth for my liking...

LV, with an indoor/outdoor operation, a 50k watt indoor would definitely supply most of the state. Especially if they are all master growers producing around 1gpw...imagine that type of production. Sadly though, only 10% of patients know the difference between "top shelf" and outdoor. Meaning that without exposure to the highly sought after meds, there will only be limiting amount of these top shelf strains. So regardless of the price, people who know the difference will only be in search for those strains. The other 90% of patients only care about the medicinal values of Cannabis, rather then the way it was grown, dried, cured etc...

That 90% you speak of also think dank is synonomous with the most expensive stuff in the room at the markets..
I hope there is a progression away from this mentality so dispensaries are more or less forced to stock chron.
Not to mention, a little education would really be beneficial to those who are seeking out the medical bennefits associated with cannabis.

In order to change this people need to produce more dank, make it more easily available to patients and talk to patients, engage them and start a conversation. Acting a snob and saying 'oh most of these folk don't know quality' while there may be truth in it it is not fixing the problem. Things are progressing though both in the quality people are producing and the knowledge base of the patients.

irieie said:

In order to change this people need to produce more dank, make it more easily available to patients and talk to patients, engage them and start a conversation. Acting a snob and saying 'oh most of these folk don't know quality' while there may be truth in it it is not fixing the problem. Things are progressing though both in the quality people are producing and the knowledge base of the patients.

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I agree people are getting a lot more educated. They let the cat out of the bag ever allowing home cultivation.. let alone for a couple years

What can we do to fix the problem?


Spread good genetics...

HB DC said:

What can we do to fix the problem?


Spread good genetics...

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exactly. quit being such tightasses with your good shit and bringing shitty strains to the MARKETS! YOU FUCKS.

1337hacker said:

I agree people are getting a lot more educated. They let the cat out of the bag ever allowing home cultivation.. let alone for a couple years

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If we look to all other med states this Is how the industry starts. In every case this is how it has been. Real grass roots industries.

That's bullshit All of you have top shelf strains if you can't grow it top shelf that's no ones fault but your own. Good growers can make most strains dank.

The only way to change this is grow more and make it more easily available for patients. I dint see any of you doing that.

Ya, lets freely give out our hard work and time to people who only want the elite cuts for personal gain.
On-top of that, when people who do not know how to grow get a hold of hard to grow strains, they fuck them up and then talk shit. (No insinuating anything, just a general statement.)