spl1
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Nice post on this thread https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/313952-best-way-do-resivour-change.htmlSame Here
That was great advice for a newbie learning DWC.
The Lost Art of Foliar Feeding
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That was great advice for a newbie learning DWC.
spl1
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You don't have to do my Ingredients just use what you have already, My list was what I used when I was growing over 100 out door plants. I still use it indoors as well but if you have a product already use it.
Plus it was cost effective with over a 100 plants out doors, now I am stuck with 3 in bloom and 3 in veg, so I had to adapt my grow style to work indoors and it is working very well.
I got a pound off of three plants last harvest, plus an extra 11 oz of the little cutting I did in DWC as a test VS my dirt grow. I have now changed to all DWC and it is going to be amazing at cut time.
Right now I have three THC Bombs in first week of bloom, I vegged them for 4 weeks. I did not do any LST, topping, or fim and I have over 30 colas per plant one week flower. I am going to multi harvest them as well.
Keep up the good growing.
GODFREY1
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Oh I know. But that's why I'm in here. To learn. I'd be a fool not to use all the tools given to me. Right now your formula as far as I know is my main foliar feeding tool I have. Proven it works,I'm given it a shot. Friday I'm gettin epson salt and malosses. And anything else I see cheap. Than two weeks later I'll get more.
Fenster Karton
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try 1/4 strength Dr Chataliers hydroponic mix
spl1
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Cheap is using what you already have there now.
Is you're grow dirt? If so then molasses is ok to use but remember it takes a at least a week from the time to feed it to work. It takes the the bacteria that long to break it down and most of that will become nitrogen and about 10% will become carbohydrates.
Do not use molasses in a hydro system unless you like cleaning. If hydro use hydro honey from Humboldt Nutrients, it around $13.00 bucks and takes very little and it is a ready to use carbohydrate for the plant to uptake fast and easy. Plus the bacteria will eat it as well and produce nitrogen in return.
monkz
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omg dude did you seriously just insinuate that you know more about plants than UB, thats laughable.
he said that its easy to abuse the foliar feeding system because of using too much P, cant wait to see his response pwning you
MoN3yb4Gs
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If you want foot long nuggets foliar feed. The proof is in the puddin'
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/273979-10-x-15-stealth-attic-13.html
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/273979-10-x-15-stealth-attic-13.html
*sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm*
spl1
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Do you know me? Have we been growing together for years? did you read every post UB made in this tread?(NO)
UB is anti Foliage feeding that's why he keeps posting that old ass article about how they came up with foliage feeding did not work on shrubs and evergreen type plants.
When asked about fruit bearing plants he has no evidence to back up the claim, just that old ass article that has no relevance to what we do.
Fact 1: Foliage feeding stimulates root growth.
Fact 2: All plants that do like foliage feeding tend to be stronger and produce more fruit.
Fact 3: Plants that are foliage feed have less mite problems than non foliage feed plants.
Fact 4: Osmotic pressure helps force the plant to grow faster(Fact 1)
Fact 5: When plants that have been tested both with foliage feeding and non foliage feeding. The plants foliage feed had a higher mycorrhizal fungi colony in the root zone naturally.
Fact 6: Beneficial Bactria were attracted to the root zone do to the relationship with the fungi in the root zone.
Fact 7: Plants do intake Nut threw the leave this has been proven with radioactive Isotopes and x-ray taken with in seconds of spraying.
Fact 8: Back to back studies from over 20 different universities all claim that it does work with tissue samples, UB article has no proof with tissue samples, and if you email her like I did it was a visual observation.
Fact 9: You don't know me or how long I have been in this game. I have been around long enough to remember at least 2 of my personal friends get busted with the OG crew. How long have you been in this game?
spl1
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Very nice grow indeed.
Do you feel you would have gotten that nice of a grow with out foliage feeding them?
If not have you grown that same strain with out foliage feeding them or know some one that did? So you can compare maybe.
I have, we grew 200 plants last year one group of a 100 we foliage feed and the other we did not, all the same strain with the same nut, lights, and grow room were the same.
I will keep foliage feeding after that grow. It was over a 1/3 more dried out and cured.
monkz
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Ok then my friend seeing as your going to be silly about the issue,
why don't you grow a plant that has been foliar fed only...
and ill grow a plant that has been fed via the root system...
I can guarantee you that my plant will be bigger, healthier, have a more robust root system and yield more than yours.
I'm not disregarding foliar feeding, it's just not the be all and end all of solutions to growing marijuana or any other plant, be it fruit bearing or not.
When you foliar feed there can be many problems such as nute burn, light burn etc etc, especially given the high dosage you use.
I'm not arguing with you for the sake of it, and looking at your plants I applaud you because they do look very healthy and tasty.
However you cannot say that just this one factor (foliar feeding) contributes to having a healthy plant.
As for growing with UB... I wish mate!
I'm not doubting your knowledge but I believe his surpasses yours, I'm not just saying that because I've dug up some of your threads and plenty of his...
and let me tell you they are nothing in comparison as far as experience.
He is one of the people on this site that is most respected and that has helped a lot of people.
So you insulting him does nothing for your credibility.
Anyway man lets just chill and accept that people have different opinions - some more factual than others.
Peace,
Monkz.
why don't you grow a plant that has been foliar fed only...
and ill grow a plant that has been fed via the root system...
I can guarantee you that my plant will be bigger, healthier, have a more robust root system and yield more than yours.
I'm not disregarding foliar feeding, it's just not the be all and end all of solutions to growing marijuana or any other plant, be it fruit bearing or not.
When you foliar feed there can be many problems such as nute burn, light burn etc etc, especially given the high dosage you use.
I'm not arguing with you for the sake of it, and looking at your plants I applaud you because they do look very healthy and tasty.
However you cannot say that just this one factor (foliar feeding) contributes to having a healthy plant.
As for growing with UB... I wish mate!
I'm not doubting your knowledge but I believe his surpasses yours, I'm not just saying that because I've dug up some of your threads and plenty of his...
and let me tell you they are nothing in comparison as far as experience.
He is one of the people on this site that is most respected and that has helped a lot of people.
So you insulting him does nothing for your credibility.
Anyway man lets just chill and accept that people have different opinions - some more factual than others.
Peace,
Monkz.
orgnlmrwiggles
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i foilar feed when i feel my plants need or want it. depending how the leaves are looking ill give them fox farm grow big for nitrogen. but during clones i do grow big and superthrive. use 1/4 to 1/2 dosage as stated on bottles for grown plants and feed as neccesary; with the nitrogen ill apply until the 2nd or 3rd week if i see nitrogen deficiency yellowing, but be careful cuz it could be too high of a ph that your watering(to the soil) and nothing to do with nitrogen. ill apply 2/3 times a week and make sure to have a straight ph'ed water to also apply after the nute sprays soaks up that way the salt build up isnt too great. or 1/8 of the dosage for clones. i try to only apply nutes in foilar to clones once a week and straight ph'ed water the rest of the time to keep them moist. i have overwatered with foilar, although its kinda difficult. you leaves just look kinda soggy. easy to spot and just dont spray and fixes the problem.
spl1
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I did accept that UB had his opinion, but it seems he can not.
UB is very knowledgeable at what he knows works and he has dialed in for what he does. With that said he does not know it all, neither do I. I am happy that I don't know it all or else I would get bored with this and move on.
What I do know my customers pay me to teach them and trouble shoot there grow set ups and stream line it to make it as easy as possible. I do build a lot of grow room setups both for handicapped as well as larger commercial grows.
As for nut burns I have never had one from spraying my plants. NEVER.
The leaves can take a hell of a lot more nut then the root could. Most of the leaf damage I see is from people over nutting the roots. Then they try to fix it with spray and say it does not work.
I look at leaf damage as frostbite, once it happens you cant really fix it you just have to live with it.
Why don't you a third party guy take and grow 6 plants, three with out foliage feeding and 3 with and let us know what the end results are in a grow journal.
If you use fungi us it in all 6 plants.
Spl
spl1
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Great to have your post, lol your post on my thread was 420
GODFREY1
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Well,all science aside I'll tell you what I saw today. It was my first day of doubling the dose of my foliar feed. HOLY SHIT! She didn't throw off the height she usually does,but one side of my plant(not the side in afore pic of this thread)has been much thinner due to being a little further away from the light. She looked almost TWICE as bushy as this morning when she got up. The first pic was taken the night before last. She looked the same last night. The second is the same side of the plant earlier this evening. I'll get a better pic tomorrow,I crammed a bunch of babies in there with my girl when I got home. I know it looks like shit,but I had to stick em somewhere. Lol. So anyway. My baby's lovin it. Also as of tomorrow(already mixed all giddy)I will be adding Maxicrop Liquid Fish,and the Pro Tekt 0-0-3. I will also be putting those ingrediants in my soil feed when I start.
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spl1
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Great job, wait until you see how that Silica works wonders for your plant. Every plant I have gets it and even the new seeding and fresh clones.
keep us posted on the progress!
rzza
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hey bud, i copied your foliar mix for veg and lightly misted my babies, they are small, growing their second set of true leaves.
i did it in the morning when they woke up and before the light shut off i checked again and they had very light spotting on the leaves. i also diluted 3 times the amount you did.
should i stop doing this?
