The legends attached to a strain

codexcannabis

codexcannabis

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Yo,

I'm very interested to find out what people know on the histories of strains... and the legends attached to them...

i.e.

the origins of cheese and the exodus crew

white widow, shantibaba, ingmar and arjan

northern lights, neville and the indian

g13 and government labs

if anyone knows any stories/legends attached to a particular strain then post it here :D

peace
 
Moebius

Moebius

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in the beginning God said .... 'let there be bud' .... and he saw that it was good.

exodus 4:20
 
MrFrance

MrFrance

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The Legion of : think it was just some cunt rubbing himself off in his room smoking it looking at national geographic
 
Blue Wizard

Blue Wizard

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You mean like how "trainwreck" is supposed to be named after a train wreck that threatened a large out door guerilla grow?
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Blue Wizard said:
You mean like how "trainwreck" is supposed to be named after a train wreck that threatened a large out door guerilla grow?
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I thought it was down to how the plant grows everywhere and the buds look weird... kinda like a 'train wreck'. ?!?/

well thats what I heard, never grown it so can't comment.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Clone Only Strains - OG Kush
Story #1:
OG Kush (the original cut) came from an S1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996.

Story #2: (by Kailua kid from sierra seeds:)
In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around So. L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to Mike(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 Mike sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. Mike sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. Mike sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.
Bob bred this plant to my Old World Kush male. He took a male from that cross and bred it to the OG cut Putz had sent him. This is what made the original Bubba.

Lineage: ChemDawg x [Lemon Thai x Old World Paki Kush]
 
Blue Wizard

Blue Wizard

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Moebius said:
I thought it was down to how the plant grows everywhere and the buds look weird... kinda like a 'train wreck'. ?!?/

well thats what I heard, never grown it so can't comment.
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lol I don't know either, that's just what I heard. I also heard "headband" was named because people who used it said they felt a slight pressure around their head, like a head band. All of this could be BS, I'm just saying what I heard. :bigjoint:
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Clone Only Strains - Death-Star
'Death-Star' was originally bred around 2001-2002, by 'Team Death Star' who started revealing it to more elite growers in 2004 and enjoyed much attention from smokers throughout the American-Midwest and along the East Coast. It gained and attracted a lot of attention in 2010 when High Times wrote an article about the tightly-held strain.

It is trademarked for it's 'hashy' Sour Diesel taste and it's compact growth structure influenced by the Sensi Star father, that made it very popular for Midwest growers.

It produces rock-hard buds that are covered in trichromes to the point that the final cured buds appear to be an almost gray color, often times with light purple streaks when temps are dropped.

It's high is both mind-numbing Sour Diesel twist and narcotic body effects from the Sensi Star. It has the ability to still be an all-day smoke for high tolerance smokers and a knockout for those with lower tolerance.
 
Blue Wizard

Blue Wizard

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From wikipedia:


The origin of G-13 is likely one of the most perplexing of any strain, making it the subject of many urban legends. According to some accounts, in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s the CIA, FBI, and other government agencies collected the best strains from around the world. At a top-secret installation at the University of Mississippi, they bred many new super hybrids. Allegedly, a single cutting of this plant was liberated by an unnamed technician and bred for the masses. The cut, G-13, was said to be the 13th, and one of the most potent, in a series of pure Afghani strains. [SUP][2][/SUP]

The facts, however, provide no substantiating evidence. Although cannabis researchers at the University of Mississippi did assemble a world-class cannabis collection during the late 1960s and early 1970s, there is no evidence that these researchers were ever involved in breeding high quality marijuana.[SUP][1][/SUP]
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Soma Seeds - NYC Diesel
Genetik: Mexican Sativa x Afghani
Indica: 40% / Sativa: 60%
Flowering: 10 - 12 weeks
Minimum yield: 25 grams

The N.Y.C Diesel has its roots in the Big Apple, a friend brought the seeds and said that it was the best pot he ever smoked, he had dreads down to the ground so I believed him. This Cannabis tastes and smells like Ripe Red Grap efruits, once you touch the fresh buds you can not smell the other strains in your room or garden. New York City Diesel will leave you an Exotic Taste, an Exotic Smell and an Exotic High.

soma got his diesel from a bagseed from a buddy from NYC or at least thats how soma described it. his diesel could be an s1 of original diesel, underdawg, sour d, or any other b/c it sounds like all of them in nyc gets mixed up pretty easily (due to similar heritage) unless youre really in the loop and have access to all of them and know heritage. that leaves a range of options for soma's expression of his bagseed diesel momma. and yes, his nyc diesel is not pure diesel, his first hybrid that won the awards was that diesel bag momma cross shanti's afghani/hawaiian male. i believe the current seeds sold by soma are a first backcross to his diesel mom.
 
W

Wordz

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Blue Wizard said:
lol I don't know either, that's just what I heard. I also heard "headband" was named because people who used it said they felt a slight pressure around their head, like a head band. All of this could be BS, I'm just saying what I heard. :bigjoint:
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I have stuff that does that
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Clone Only Strains - Strawberry Cough
Aka: Kyle Kushmans Strawberry Cough

Texas Kid: Strawberry Fields is a 100% indica strain that originated in vermont. around 7 weeks flowering time. Breed for the taste and smell of strawberries, and to be able to finish before the first snow fall in Vermont. High yielder. from what I understand, the strain was given it's name because the breeder grew it for many years in with his strawberry plants, and claimed that the original scent of strawberries was intensified because of the way he grew the plants together. nevertheless, if his theories were correct or not, the worked plants in his field had developed a scent and smell that matched his freshest strawberries to a tee. But the high was not ideal for his prefrences(needed to be more cerebral). He took an outstanding pure haze male and crossed it with his best female flowering in his fields. These are essentially strawberry cough seeds, but not the clone that's going around. The SC pheno clone was found in sorting through dozens of these seeds that were given to kyle kushman. the SC clone yields very heavily from it's mother strawberry fields(which I was told the real deal is now extinct). Expect a minimun of five to six ounces per sc plant, and the real deal finish around 7.5 - 9 weeks depending on what you look at to harvest. each branch must be supported with at least one stalk, or the weight of the buds will cause your limbs and buds to hang on the ground.

Nebu: regarding the Strawberry Cough heritage, Strawberry Fields x Haze as I was told. Though Kyle (with whom I worked @ HighTimes and who provided the clone & details to me) had said it was a lonely (& lowly, he thought at first) clone, not seeds, which he received. He did not expect much (the 'breeder' had a very small, humble environment) and accepted the clone only to be polite ~ upon arriving home after a fairly long drive he opened the box where he had placed the clones and was suprised to catch the strong aroma of strawberries. At that moment he thought that it just might be something special. (which it really is!)
 
codexcannabis

codexcannabis

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racerboy71 said:
Clone Only Strains - Strawberry Cough
Aka: Kyle Kushmans Strawberry Cough

Texas Kid: Strawberry Fields is a 100% indica strain that originated in vermont. around 7 weeks flowering time. Breed for the taste and smell of strawberries, and to be able to finish before the first snow fall in Vermont. High yielder. from what I understand, the strain was given it's name because the breeder grew it for many years in with his strawberry plants, and claimed that the original scent of strawberries was intensified because of the way he grew the plants together. nevertheless, if his theories were correct or not, the worked plants in his field had developed a scent and smell that matched his freshest strawberries to a tee. But the high was not ideal for his prefrences(needed to be more cerebral). He took an outstanding pure haze male and crossed it with his best female flowering in his fields. These are essentially strawberry cough seeds, but not the clone that's going around. The SC pheno clone was found in sorting through dozens of these seeds that were given to kyle kushman. the SC clone yields very heavily from it's mother strawberry fields(which I was told the real deal is now extinct). Expect a minimun of five to six ounces per sc plant, and the real deal finish around 7.5 - 9 weeks depending on what you look at to harvest. each branch must be supported with at least one stalk, or the weight of the buds will cause your limbs and buds to hang on the ground.

Nebu: regarding the Strawberry Cough heritage, Strawberry Fields x Haze as I was told. Though Kyle (with whom I worked @ HighTimes and who provided the clone & details to me) had said it was a lonely (& lowly, he thought at first) clone, not seeds, which he received. He did not expect much (the 'breeder' had a very small, humble environment) and accepted the clone only to be polite ~ upon arriving home after a fairly long drive he opened the box where he had placed the clones and was suprised to catch the strong aroma of strawberries. At that moment he thought that it just might be something special. (which it really is!)
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Awesome info dude...really appreciate it, fascinating stuff. Whats your opinion, if any, on the origins of White Widow?
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Mr Nice Seedbank - Black Widow
A most infamous strain that since 1994 has won a number of awards, including the High Times Cannabis Cup in 1995, and has acquired acclaim from most corners of the globe - rightly so. It has a pedigree of parentage that combines a Brazilian Sativa with a South Indian hybrid. Basically, it is the original parents of White Widow changing its colors like its company. Indoors 10 weeks of flowering will be necessary to realize the immense resin production. In the northern hemisphere expect harvest around September/October, having planted as late as June. However, there is a chance that rain could reduce the expected yield. A highly recommended strain for amateur breeders - the male being preferable.

Family of breed: Brazilian sativa x South Indian Indica
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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this is what arjan has to say about ww, but i don't know if i believe him ...

Arjan: "Ingemar (De Sjamaan) invented WW already in 1987. [...] It was called Arnhem’s Wonder and already won the first HL cup in 1989. [...] For those who don’t believe this, please call Coffeeshop Catweazel or Roger from the grow shop; they worked with Ingmar for a long time. Roger has always sold the clones he had. He had a famous grow shop in Nijmegen. I bought the male and female among other plants in 1992 and only crossed them in 1994. I did not have to do any breading on the White Widow at that time because Ingemar had already done it for us. And to this day you can still buy original clones of the White Widow in that area of Holland."
 
codexcannabis

codexcannabis

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racerboy71 said:
this is what arjan has to say about ww, but i don't know if i believe him ...

Arjan: "Ingemar (De Sjamaan) invented WW already in 1987. [...] It was called Arnhem’s Wonder and already won the first HL cup in 1989. [...] For those who don’t believe this, please call Coffeeshop Catweazel or Roger from the grow shop; they worked with Ingmar for a long time. Roger has always sold the clones he had. He had a famous grow shop in Nijmegen. I bought the male and female among other plants in 1992 and only crossed them in 1994. I did not have to do any breading on the White Widow at that time because Ingemar had already done it for us. And to this day you can still buy original clones of the White Widow in that area of Holland."
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Yeh im not sure i believe him either...I'm sure i've read this, is it part of the online rant aimed at Shantibaba?
 
Moebius

Moebius

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racerboy71 said:
this is what arjan has to say about ww, but i don't know if i believe him ...

Arjan: "Ingemar (De Sjamaan) invented WW already in 1987. [...] It was called Arnhem’s Wonder and already won the first HL cup in 1989. [...] For those who don’t believe this, please call Coffeeshop Catweazel or Roger from the grow shop; they worked with Ingmar for a long time. Roger has always sold the clones he had. He had a famous grow shop in Nijmegen. I bought the male and female among other plants in 1992 and only crossed them in 1994. I did not have to do any breading on the White Widow at that time because Ingemar had already done it for us. And to this day you can still buy original clones of the White Widow in that area of Holland."
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I wouldnt want to work the phones at coffeeshop catweasel. Imagine all the calls asking for the story ..... yawn. LOL
 
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