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hanimmal

hanimmal

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Lucky Luke said:
Yes, old photo of an old Liberal Conservative parliamentary team that got voted out. Labor won the election. Its an old photo.

Seems to be a normal diversity in the current Labor party and Parliament considering that It is estimated that around 58% of the Australian population are Anglo-Celtic, with 18% being of other European origins.
That 96% of the eligible population voted in.
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Are you one of those people who think that they are so white that you think 'European origins' are not mainly white? I am just guessing 'anglo-celtic' is basically florescent.

lol and also notice that your percentages don't sum up to 100%, so really only can say is that most likely at least 76% of the most diverse political party in Australia is white. But who knows, could be that you have some South African white people, some nordic or Russian white people origins lol.

At the end of the day you guys are pretty far behind today's American Democratic party in terms of diversity with you having 4% non-melanin deficient elected officials.

Maybe you guys are starting to turn a corner though, I really hope that you are and can one day have a political party representing all of your nation's people. Just when you do, make sure you keep us in mind and look out for all those loopholes that those rich white dick heads put in place to make sure that they maintain power.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Lucky Luke said:
Not at all. We are in the politics section. You talk Canadian differences and concerns when it concerns you. I do the same. Right now I'm debating with Hannibal who just trolled me. Which i get a lot of but as you are aware i tend to answer any and every question if it concerns the topic.

Because we are in politics on a mainly American populated site then the vast majority of topics are American. American politics of cause also effects the world.

Now ask yourself how this conversation came about? I post something in the Junk drawer showing a brilliant politician in action and then its trolled by both Roger and Hannibal. I defend and now im Having a go at America? This seems to be the norm at times.

And yes of cause Australia has done and does some bad bad chit. I never said it hadn't. I've posted stuff about some of it on threads that im sure you would of seen.
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you had to go back 25 years to find one good example....and i don't know if i'd call him brilliant..while he wasn't personally involved in any scandals, his administration was involved in a couple, the last of which put the party out of power.
something about sports rorts...what the fuck ever that is?...
i don't think you're having a go at America because we laughed at you...i think you've been having a go at America for as long as you've been on this site, and probably longer, but that's ok, we're used to not only protecting, feeding, and housing half the world, we're also used to being their whipping boy, taking their blame for every problem in their existence.
it's ok for us to do whatever we need to do at the time everyone is whinging and moaning "save us, save us" but once we save you, you start to criticize our methods of saving you...don't like our methods? get the fucking world to save themselves and shut the fuck up
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Bye bye Boris...
Maybe they will have as much trouble getting rid of Boris as the Americans had getting rid of Trump!
Traditionally this is the end of the line for a British PM, to lose the confidence of his cabinet.


Boris Johnson on the brink as dozens of his ministers resign - BBC News
103,758 views Jul 6, 2022 Boris Johnson is clinging to power and vowing to fight on, after the resignation of dozens of members of his government. Many believe the British Prime Minister cannot remain in office and will be forced out within days.

The latest crisis began with the resignation of Mr Johnson’s Chancellor Rishi Sunak and health secretary Sajid Javid. Since then more than 40 other ministers have resigned, with many of them calling on Mr Johnson to step down immediately or be forced from office.

It follows a series of scandals, with accusations that Mr Johnson lacks honesty and integrity and has repeatedly lied to his party and the country.

Recently more than 40% of his Conservative MPs declared that they had no confidence in Boris Johnson's leadership.

Many Conservatives believe the prime minister has become an electoral liability who is tarnishing the reputation of their party.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Lucky Luke said:
I get that and i'm a lefty and America and the majority of RIU members are conservative (compared to my views). My views are my own and i don't mind expressing them.
TBH I think America is in a very dangerous place. I don't mind saying it and not hiding it. others say the same kind of things but i probably have less tact so cope more flak than some. Im OK with that.
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it's not about your opinion about what kind of place we're in...it's your condescension, your telling us how great Australia is and how fucked up America is in comparison...but i'm assuming you don't think that is what you are doing...but i'm assuring you we think you are.
see, i don't mind when someone mentions how they do things in their countries, i find it interesting to compare, and sometimes, i'll even say something to the effect of "thats cool, too bad we can't do things that way."...but you don't mention how you all do things in Australia, you tell us how you do things right in Australia, as compared to the fucked up way we do it in America. you're going to get a finger and attitude as long as you keep doing that.
here, take your pick.
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Lessons For The U.S. From The Boris Johnson Debacle
2,405 views Jul 6, 2022 "What you are seeing now is what it looks like when a conservative party decides they have had enough and that a leader is just too much of a menace to be tolerated," says Chris Hayes. "This pressure on Boris Johnson is a stark reminder that it can still happen."
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you had to go back 25 years to find one good example....and i don't know if i'd call him brilliant..while he wasn't personally involved in any scandals, his administration was involved in a couple, the last of which put the party out of power.
something about sports rorts...what the fuck ever that is?...
i don't think you're having a go at America because we laughed at you...i think you've been having a go at America for as long as you've been on this site, and probably longer, but that's ok, we're used to not only protecting, feeding, and housing half the world, we're also used to being their whipping boy, taking their blame for every problem in their existence.
it's ok for us to do whatever we need to do at the time everyone is whinging and moaning "save us, save us" but once we save you, you start to criticize our methods of saving you...don't like our methods? get the fucking world to save themselves and shut the fuck up
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I posted what i thought was a good video of a Lefty PM destroying the conservatives in question time in Parliament. I get that lots of conservatives wouldn't of liked that.
You know I like History. Yes 25 odd years ago Australian's got employer paid Superannuation's. Keating may not be in power but he is still in the Labor party (who is in power and not the last conservative mob that Hannibal posted a picture of) and is a guiding light in the party today.

Most of the world has a go at America and i'm no exception. I'll also happily have a go at the English like most of Europe do. Its normal for other countries to have a go at each other just like diff sports team fans do to each other. No nations on earth have a go at Australians like the kiwis and poms do. I think Americans just have very thin skin. Perhaps they got brought up believing all the propaganda they were told about how free they are and how great they are.
If you give it be prepared to take it. Broad shoulders and all that.
 
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Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Since my last Paul Keating vid got the conservatives so upset here's his famous Redfern Address (way back in 92).





Which BTW led to this famous speech by Kevin Rudd (a Labor Prime Minister)

that last one always puts a tear in my eye.
 
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Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Herb & Suds said:
So forth with
When I get to feeling hopeless I’ll be able to console myself in knowing Boris, Nutanyahoo and Trump are all out of power
Baby steps :hump::joint:
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Has Boris resigned? That's wonderful news. Damage is done in regard to Brexit but wonderful news.

Pressure has been mounting in Australia, even by the conservative media not owned by Murdoch, for the Australian PM to pick up the ph to Boris and stop the Julian Assange's saga but with what's going on Boris really hasn't got the political will to probably do anything. But a new leader might.
 
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Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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hanimmal said:
Are you one of those people who think that they are so white that you think 'European origins' are not mainly white? I am just guessing 'anglo-celtic' is basically florescent.

lol and also notice that your percentages don't sum up to 100%, so really only can say is that most likely at least 76% of the most diverse political party in Australia is white. But who knows, could be that you have some South African white people, some nordic or Russian white people origins lol.

At the end of the day you guys are pretty far behind today's American Democratic party in terms of diversity with you having 4% non-melanin deficient elected officials.

Maybe you guys are starting to turn a corner though, I really hope that you are and can one day have a political party representing all of your nation's people. Just when you do, make sure you keep us in mind and look out for all those loopholes that those rich white dick heads put in place to make sure that they maintain power.
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Not sure where you get 4%. Seems closer to 9%. But we are a predominantly a white anglo/euro country. That's due to the fact we had a white Australian policy and didnt import huge numbers of African slaves.

Good quick Up to date'ish read for you https://theconversation.com/were-about-to-have-australias-most-diverse-parliament-yet-but-theres-still-a-long-way-to-go-183620

"Newly elected members Sally Sitou, Michelle Ananda-Rajah, Sam Lim, Zaneta Mascarenhas, Cassandra Fernando and Dai Le will bolster the non-European representation of the House of Representatives.
The Indigenous ranks of parliament are also set to swell, with the additions of Marion Scrymgour and Gordon Reid in the House, and Jacinta Price in the Senate.
In many ways, it is a fitting result to an election that had its share of controversies about representation."


Did you know our female Prime Minister (another Labor one) Julia Gillard way back in 2010 was unmarried and an atheist with 0 children. What's the chancers of that happening in America?
 
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Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Lucky Luke said:
Has Boris resigned? That's wonderful news. Damage is done in regard to Brexit but wonderful news.

Pressure has been mounting in Australia, even by the conservative media not owned by Murdoch, for the Australian PM to pick up the ph to Boris and stop the Julian Assange's saga but with what's going on Boris really hasn't got the political will to probably do anything. But a new leader might.
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Not yet.
www.bbc.com

Boris Johnson: Resignations exceed 50 but PM stays in post

The PM is fighting for his future as his two most recent cabinet appointments call for him to quit.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
Herb & Suds

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Ozumoz66

Ozumoz66

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Sativied said:
Fine choice of genetics even if I say so myself :) For Frisian farmers it's extra hard to take orders from the government in Holland. Hollanders and Frisians were at war on and off for hundreds of years. Been 700 years or so but there's still some animosity. Great people, at least until they got slaughtered and raped into submitting to christianity. Before that they were major tree huggers, vikings meets Avatar. It's has a very high density of churches, some build on holy trees. Sacred springs became christian holy wells. One of the saddest stories of Christianization in europe. Frisia used to be much larger, entire west coast of NL, the north coast including parts of Germany and Denmark. Modern day Frisia is just another cunt farmer province in NL. They still speak their own language. Pretty girls though :)


Those are all familiar examples. They’re like machines, farming is their sole function, religiously. The ones that farm animals often don’t give a shit about plants. A lot of them moved to Canada in the past, some US and NZ too. A thing since ww2 but later mostly because of regulations and limits here. I know the type very well, rarely from Holland but some cunt farmer province instead, the calvinist protestant bat shit christian types you can also find around Michigan.
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Their genetics and work ethics are admirable traits for sure. It is their attitude and behavior (not all, but many) where this observer raises an occasional eyebrow. Perhaps it's their strength in numbers in the region.

From a young age I often heard "If you're not Dutch, you're not much". Although this didn't align with my egalitarian views then or now, many Europeans are admirably confident in their culture and history. I love (almost) all people, even the ones that feel they're better than me. We're all uniquely different, thankfully. :D

Farmland prices locally have gone up considerably - many attribute it to Dutch immigration, because they often purchase large parcels of land. In 1999, an acre of farmland went for about $3 500 - these days it's $30 000/acre for decent land and about $26 000/acre for marginal land.

In addition to plant based, if only there was an alternative protein option, like crickets, grasshoppers, ants, and meal worms. This may curb some greenhouse gasses and water consumption attributed to dairy/beef/pork farming practices.
 
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