The importance of this election to what we are on this thread.

canndo

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I've been talking about how important this election is to pot growers for some months now. I have been claiming that the person who selects the next SCOTUS judges have a direct effect upon our lives and that it is wise for all of us to vote for Obama, regardless of how he has been directing or at least ignoring his justice department.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/sep/26/us-supreme-court-to-hear-drug-dog-cases-from-fla/

this is what I've been talking about. These decisions affect how we live. It is plain that conservative justices, those that Romney would most likley place upon the court have a great tendancy to find for government and against individual liberty. If you vote for Rommey and he places another Alito on the court you have only yourselves to blame for your having less and less of a stand against government intrusion.
 

NoDrama

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I've been talking about how important this election is to pot growers for some months now. I have been claiming that the person who selects the next SCOTUS judges have a direct effect upon our lives and that it is wise for all of us to vote for Obama, regardless of how he has been directing or at least ignoring his justice department.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/sep/26/us-supreme-court-to-hear-drug-dog-cases-from-fla/

this is what I've been talking about. These decisions affect how we live. It is plain that conservative justices, those that Romney would most likley place upon the court have a great tendancy to find for government and against individual liberty. If you vote for Rommey and he places another Alito on the court you have only yourselves to blame for your having less and less of a stand against government intrusion.
Why? Will Romney make Pot illegal? Or will he put a conservative judge in the Supreme court and they will make it illegal?
 

bigbillyrocka

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Exactly! Life sucked living in a city ran by Mormons. Changing holidays that fall on Sunday to Monday. No beer after 10 pm to be sold and none of which could be sold on sundays. The list goes on. Talk about over oppressive individuals of power! I could only imagine what a country ran by one would be like. Civil liberties are going to be thrown out the window that's for sure. And if you're not a business owner (if Romney becomes elected) get ready for some pain in your ass to keep your head floating above water.
 

canndo

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Why? Will Romney make Pot illegal? Or will he put a conservative judge in the Supreme court and they will make it illegal?


You aren't getting the point there NoD. Neither candidate will lend his weight to making pot nationaly legal. If that isn't going to happen, then the best we can do for now is protect ourselves from police incursion and give us as equal a stance against the government as possible. Conservatives have never seen a law that involves individual liberty that they don't like (except for guns).

This is an instance, it is more likely that liberals on the court will say that a dog sniffing your front door is an intrusion, and less likely that conservatives will.
 

desert dude

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I've been talking about how important this election is to pot growers for some months now. I have been claiming that the person who selects the next SCOTUS judges have a direct effect upon our lives and that it is wise for all of us to vote for Obama, regardless of how he has been directing or at least ignoring his justice department.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/sep/26/us-supreme-court-to-hear-drug-dog-cases-from-fla/

this is what I've been talking about. These decisions affect how we live. It is plain that conservative justices, those that Romney would most likley place upon the court have a great tendancy to find for government and against individual liberty. If you vote for Rommey and he places another Alito on the court you have only yourselves to blame for your having less and less of a stand against government intrusion.
It was FDR's packed court threat that brought about the Wickard V Filburn decision that made the drug war, and the Raich decision possible.

If your thesis is that conservatives are more likely to prop up government powers, then I think you don't understand progressives at all. Do you think Sandra Fluke is likely to limit government powers?

The fact is, nobody knows how a justice will act after getting life-time tenure on SCOTUS.
 

canndo

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It was FDR's packed court threat that brought about the Wickard V Filburn decision that made the drug war, and the Raich decision possible.

If your thesis is that conservatives are more likely to prop up government powers, then I think you don't understand progressives at all. Do you think Sandra Fluke is likely to limit government powers?

The fact is, nobody knows how a justice will act after getting life-time tenure on SCOTUS.

No, we don't know, in fact (forgive the pun), the jury is still out on Roberts, but most times conservatives stay conservative and liberals stay liberal.

Thomas is conservative (although because he is such a rabid constructionist he may well see the dog thing as a intrusion). Alito will not, Scalia will not. In the last session this court voted in favor of corporations against the individual in almost every decision where that was an issue. Alito has a long sordid history of finding for police power and against the individual.

Sandra Fluke is not a supreme court justice nor will she be. I am talking about governmental powers vs. the individual. I can see you are arguing in the theoretical here, I am talking about specifics. The combination of conservatives in the court and the erosion of the proceedural regarding marijuana is what has led to the huge number of prisoners in our justice system.

You are likely to get more if Romney is elected.
 
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