The FSA Free Shit Army Is Gonna Get Violent

beardo said:

... you should be concerned that the cost of rent and food will soon be over 10,000 a month-better prepare.

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beardo said:

I wouldn't worry to much about it, money is not real and it's value is relative so because of people earning huge salaries and getting huge pensions soon costs will skyrocket, the poor will really suffer when minimum wadge does not rise enough to cover cost of living increases. When you hear your uncles going to get 10,000$ a month you should be concerned that the cost of rent and food will soon be over 10,000 a month-better prepare.

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420God said:

This is the problem I kinda see in all this:

My uncle was in the Air Force for 20 years and retired with a pension of $5k/month.

He now works for the same department but in the private sector, when he retires at 65 he will receive another $5k/month.

That's $10,000 per month he will receive from the government till he dies. That doesn't seem right.

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UncleBuck said:

i would say the right wing loonies, wearing tin foil hats and blathering about ron paul whenever they have the chance, are more likely to be the ones to start getting violent.

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ChunkyNugget said:

If we elect Palin we won't have to worry about any of the politic junk. Palin was a house wife so she knows how to run a country! Just look how successful her children are.
Tea Party 4 Life!

All sarcasm aside, I believe that the OP may be a little confused.
Unions were created for proper treatment of workers that would normally be taken advantage of, not to get "free shit." If the unions are trying to maintain their rights we shouldn't give them silly names like the "FSA." I could give you guys a cute name like the REA, or Rape the economy association. People think that taxes are taken and thrown out the window. We have many wasteful programs, such as the DEA, but with taxes we are seeing the money returned to us and our community then we would with greedy republican con jobs.

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jeff f said:

i am calling bullshit on this one. in twenty years your uncle wouldnt have reached a rank where he would have a 5k/month income.

and opposed to a state union job, your uncle was forced to work untold hours per week, had little to no choice about where he had to live around the world in various shitholes, was woken at three int he morning to get on a plane and fly halfway aroud the world to work 14 hour days in 120 degree weather, and probably had to dodge a few bullets here and there.

his pension is hardly the same as a teacher who sits on their ass all day, can move around to any district they choose, only has to watch 20 children for six hours a day, gets summers off and files a greivance about going to work if its too hot or snows a half inch.

so unless you gave up your rights for 20 years, its not an apples to apples comparison. its not even an apples to elephant comparison....so dont make it.

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420God said:

. I'll be a farmer till I die.

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420God said:

A government pension is a government pension not matter how you look at it.

I would give you my uncles last rank in the service but I don't recall what it is since my family doesn't talk to him much. I do know he worked in intelligence and other areas he could never discuss with anyone and while he's worked in the private sector he's done work for NASA.

He could've stayed in the Air Force and kept making what he was but he retired from there just so he could do what he's doing and making double the money.

I've heard of people taking advantage of government pensions since as long as I can remember, it's not that uncommon for someone to get a promotion before they retire just so there pensions higher than it would've been.

I really don't know, or care, how all that shit works. I'll be a farmer till I die.

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jeff f said:

your uncle earned that pension. every penny of it. he had to do shit that most human beings dont even understand. so dont go throwing a military pension, which is far less than say a cops pension or a teacher pension, in with government pension.

he had to do fucked up shit and wasnt able to gripe, file a greivance, or official complaint. he just had to do it.

what conservatives are talking about are public sector unions. all they need is to get 1 or 2 politicians on a school board, city councel, county comand they get voted and outlandish salary, ridiculous pension and the public pays for it.

i do work for a school. every one eployed by the district puts one dollar i a pesion, the school put in one dollar and the state puts in one dollar. so 200 percent on your money the day it goes into your pension.

and the people who work in the community pay for it. does that sound fair?

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jeff f said:

your uncle earned that pension. every penny of it. he had to do shit that most human beings dont even understand. so dont go throwing a military pension, which is far less than say a cops pension or a teacher pension, in with government pension.

he had to do fucked up shit and wasnt able to gripe, file a greivance, or official complaint. he just had to do it.

what conservatives are talking about are public sector unions. all they need is to get 1 or 2 politicians on a school board, city councel, county comand they get voted and outlandish salary, ridiculous pension and the public pays for it.

i do work for a school. every one eployed by the district puts one dollar i a pesion, the school put in one dollar and the state puts in one dollar. so 200 percent on your money the day it goes into your pension.

and the people who work in the community pay for it. does that sound fair?

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NoDrama said:

In the end no one will get a pension. Sure it might be $5k a month still, but $5k will only buy you a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk. Perhaps 6 checks could fill your car with gas.

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sync0s said:

You must be referring to inflation, because otherwise it makes no sense.

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NoDrama said:

In the end no one will get a pension. Sure it might be $5k a month still, but $5k will only buy you a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk. Perhaps 6 checks could fill your car with gas.

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UncleBuck said:

i will poop myself (on purpose) the day $5,000 only buys a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk.

the sky is not falling.

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NoDrama said:

LOL is Ron Paul running for election in Britain too? Cuz Im sure in Britain there are only Democrats and Republicans right?

One day you will perhaps see past your partisan blinders, might take a decade or so of life experience to get out of your right vs left mindset.

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tryingtogrow89 said:

Are you kidding me? he will never see the day. lol but no, seriously.

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sync0s said:

I have to agree with UncleBuck on this one. In all actuality inflation has been around 3% annually even in the last 10 years (Actually, steers more toward 2.7% over the past decade). Using a simple inflation calculator at 3% annual inflation $5k in 40 years will require $16k have equal buying power. This means roughly 3 times less valuable. Meaning: average price of bread in america ($2.28 as of March 2011) will cost $6.84 fourty years from now (barring any kind of 'great dust bowl' incident or a miracle 'shortage in wheat'). The day where $5k only buys a loaf of bread we will never see in our lives unless something catastrophic happens. At which if it does, we will be living in a much different america anyways.

edit: I grew curious on how long exactly it would take for the scenario to become true. A calculator I found using the numbers above gave me 250 years before $5000 would be worth $2 in todays money. That is if inflation remained the current path that it is on.

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UncleBuck said:

they put fluoride in the water to give us chemical lobotomies and make us passive so we turn into nazi germany.

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