The (Fake) Biden Impeachment Inquiry

Fogdog

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It would have been nice to have seen Garland more positively slam/disavow Hur’s slander of the President.
Don't look for controversy to come from Merrick's quarters. And yet, he'll be tossed out of office the minute Trump takes charge, with a special prosecutor looking for something, anything to charge him with. His caution seems warranted. And yet, he's beating Trump all hollow in the courts. It's a mixed bag with him.
 

BudmanTX

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boy isn't this thread title spot on.....

it's nice to see Comer Pyle and Gym squirm.......

the russian in question has been re-arrested btw

and there seems to be another perjury involve another ones testimoney and Mark Meadows in the light

 

GenericEnigma

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boy isn't this thread title spot on.....

it's nice to see Comer Pyle and Gym squirm.......

the russian in question has been re-arrested btw

and there seems to be another perjury involve another ones testimoney and Mark Meadows in the light

Interesting.

Some folks call Pence a hero for reporting electoral votes under threat. But it's people like Vindman and Hutchinson who did more than the bare minimum - and without equivocation.
 

Fogdog

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It would have been nice to have seen Garland more positively slam/disavow Hur’s slander of the President.
Oh I don't know if that was Garland's decision. I think it was Biden's. Sure, it was a hit job and a snarky shot at Biden. But what did Hur say that we didn't already know? Biden is old. I mean, duh. Let's leave it to Trump and his supporters to take outrage at every turn. Biden knows his job and it is not defensively projecting an image of a super hero, like Trump laughably does.
 

Fogdog

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boy isn't this thread title spot on.....

it's nice to see Comer Pyle and Gym squirm.......

the russian in question has been re-arrested btw

and there seems to be another perjury involve another ones testimoney and Mark Meadows in the light

Damn, you go, girl.

"Mr. Bobulinski claims under oath that he was not wearing a mask, that Mr. Meadows did not hand him anything, and that Ms. Hutchinson was 'fabricating facts,'" Hutchinson's lawyer wrote in the letter. "Perhaps Mr. Bobulinski's memory is impaired about the meeting, and a picture would help refresh his recollection."

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The photo appears to show the pair
(then-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and businessman Tony Bobulinski) meeting at night between SUVs with Bobukinski wearing a hat and a black mask.

And with that, Cassidy mentions what should now be a terrifying word to MAGA propagandists. That word being "defamation". And it's not wrong to use it too. Bobukinski, stfu. Would be my advice if I were his lawyer.
 

Fogdog

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yeesh,

I can't listen to Jim Jordan for very long. It seems that he's making the case that Biden should be impeached because Hur said in his report that Biden knowingly and illegally retained the classified documents before he left the Obama WH to use them to write a book. Something like that should be proven before passing judgement but does that fit the "high crimes and misdemeanors" description the constitution refers to when the authors wrote the section empowering Congress to impeach the President??

Before Jordan launched into his diatribe in which he also refers to biblical sins of greed and vanity, Hur said he did not find anything in his investigation that warranted charges.

So, what's this hearing about, really?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
yeesh,

I can't listen to Jim Jordan for very long. It seems that he's making the case that Biden should be impeached because Hur said in his report that Biden knowingly and illegally retained the classified documents before he left the Obama WH to use them to write a book. Something like that should be proven before passing judgement but does that fit the "high crimes and misdemeanors" description the constitution refers to when the authors wrote the section empowering Congress to impeach the President??

Before Jordan launched into his diatribe in which he also refers to biblical sins of greed and vanity, Hur said he did not find anything in his investigation that warranted charges.

So, what's this hearing about, really?
The Republican double standard.
 

hanimmal

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yeesh,

I can't listen to Jim Jordan for very long. It seems that he's making the case that Biden should be impeached because Hur said in his report that Biden knowingly and illegally retained the classified documents before he left the Obama WH to use them to write a book. Something like that should be proven before passing judgement but does that fit the "high crimes and misdemeanors" description the constitution refers to when the authors wrote the section empowering Congress to impeach the President??

Before Jordan launched into his diatribe in which he also refers to biblical sins of greed and vanity, Hur said he did not find anything in his investigation that warranted charges.

So, what's this hearing about, really?

vs so much to choose from showing the Republicons falling apart.



The GQP led House (and their trolls left behind by Trump as ticking time bombs in the executive branch) is timing shit to make sure that any good news Biden has gets pushed off the air as much as possible.
 

BudmanTX

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welp Lev Parnas is at the House Judiciary hearing today, yeah that guy......look what he said:


sorry it on Faux guys......
little info on Parnas just fyi


yeah he's the idiot that started the whole Biden thing and then retracted everything and i mean everything......

so much for impeachment, Gym, Pile and the rest of the GOP should be going "ah shit, this idea is shot to shit"
 

printer

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Newsmax host tells Jim Jordan: Biden impeachment ‘not going anywhere’
Newsmax host Rob Finnerty pressed Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on the House GOP impeachment probe into President Biden, repeatedly asking him if a vote on impeaching Biden would be put up for a vote on the floor.

“So, is this moving? Again, seven and a half months to go until the election … is impeachment the next step? Are you going to hold a vote on the House floor?” Finnerty asked Jordan during an appearance on his show Wednesday morning.

“Unless you get Democratic votes, this is going to be real tough. So, it kind of seems like you’re chasing your tail at this point because this is not going to go anywhere.”

Jordan said it was a “fair question” and acknowledged House Republicans have “a small majority not on just this issue but a host of issues.”

“So we’re going to do our work, and then we don’t have a timeline. We don’t have a specific outcome we’re trying to get to,” Jordan said. “Our job is to do our job, and the Constitution says the legislative branch, the Congress, does oversight, it’s part of our duty.”

The back-and-forth between the host and lawmaker was first highlighted by Mediate.

Last week, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) did not commit to holding a vote on articles of impeachment against Biden, as his conference faces increased scrutiny over the merits of its probe, having turned up scant evidence of wrongdoing against the president.

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, proclaimed the impeachment inquiry as effectively over last month, after an FBI informant who was central to the GOP’s case was indicted for lying about bribery claims related to the president and his son, Hunter Biden.

Alexander Smirnov, the former FBI informant, reportedly told the Department of Justice that “officials associated with Russian intelligence” were involved in devising the false claims.

“It appears like the whole thing is not only, obviously, false and fraudulent, but a product of Russian disinformation and propaganda,” Raskin said last month. “And that’s been the motor force behind this investigation for more than a year.”
 

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Democrats press GOP for evidence as they push forward on impeachment inquiry
Democrats on Wednesday pressured Republicans to identify the criminal conduct underlying their probe into President Biden in a hearing scheduled amid rising GOP doubts about the future of their impeachment investigation. Wednesday’s Oversight Committee hearing was relatively fireworks-free, for a panel known for dishing up some of Congress’s most eyebrow raising moments, and proceeded even as Hunter Biden declined to participate.

Republicans left an empty seat and placard on the table for Hunter Biden, but the president’s son managed to largely skirt attention in a hearing that was ostensibly crafted to review his business dealings and connect them to his father. House Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) at one point stressed that “this hearing is not about Hunter Biden. This investigation is not about Hunter Biden. It is about Joe Biden and the lies he continues to tell the American people.” But two GOP-invited witnesses failed to advance any new claims, while Lev Parnas, a former operative for Rudy Giulani who was invited by Democrats, recanted his past work and testified he never found any evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden.

Democrats were quick to point to statements from a growing roster of Republican skeptics of the probe, asking the GOP to name the high crime or misdemeanor that underlies their impeachment investigation. It was also the first hearing in the GOP impeachment inquiry since an FBI informant was arrested on charges related to lying to agency in fabricating claims President Biden accepted a bribe while vice president to take actions to benefit the Ukrainian energy company where his son served on the board.

“At this point the story isn’t the fact that the basis of this impeachment inquiry is wrong. The story is why it is proceeding anyway?” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said, adding the GOP has “no charges.” “I have yet to hear in the chairman’s opening the allegation that they are specifically charging the president of the United States with. I am hearing about the ‘Biden family.’ I am hearing about this and that. I am not hearing the specific allegation by this committee. What is it? It is not here. And that is the problem. The story is when this committee knew they were working with falsified evidence? That is the story.”

Hunter Biden declined to appear at the hearing after previously requesting to appear publicly. A letter from his lawyer he said GOP leaders provided no prior outreach when setting a hearing date, staging the hearing the day before he is due in court in California. Republicans instead relied on two witnesses with little connection to Hunter Biden or his father.

Tony Bobulinski briefly worked with Hunter Biden on a Chinese investment deal never came to fruition. He later became aligned with allies of former President Trump, attending a presidential debate at his invitation and being currently represented by an attorney who helped Trump White House aides before the Jan. 6 committee through funds supplied through entities connected with the former president.

Jason Galanis, who is currently incarcerated on fraud charges brought in an indictment alongside Hunter Biden’s former business partner, has said he worked with the president’s son, but that is in dispute. Hunter Biden said he only recalled that “10 years ago for 30 minutes I was introduced to Jason Galanis, and that’s the only time I ever recall meeting him.” Democrats accused Republicans of selecting two witnesses whose testimony has been countered by nearly 20 other witnesses.

Bobulinski’s main draw for the GOP stems from his claims that a 2017 email chain he was on suggesting business partners set aside money in a deal for “the big guy” was a reference to President Biden, who had just left office. The idea was not further discussed on the chain. Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) pointed to an interview with another former partner, James Gilliar, who said President Biden was never involved in the discussion and had nothing to do with the deal. “You and James Gilliar wanted Joe Biden involved and that is why Hunter Biden dumped you and did the business on his own,” Goldman said.

Hunter Biden has called for an investigation into Bobulinski, casting him as a spurned business partner who was not even present at a meeting in which payment structures were discussed, questioning whether he lied about the matter to the FBI. Democrats on Wednesday also moved to subpoena Bobulinski’s phone records, noting the committee only has screenshots from his phone, something the witness said was due to an FBI inability to mirror the data from an old blackberry. But Republicans voted down the measure, as they did in a prior hearing when Democrats sought to subpoena Giuliani.

Parnas’s appearance was one of his most public since leaving prison in September after serving time on charges related to fraud and campaign finance crimes. The close associate of Giuliani lobbed bombs at his former boss, as well as other Trump officials, including former Attorney General Bill Barr. While tasked with investigating the Bidens, Parnas said he came up short, accusing Giuliani and others of falsely smearing the Biden family dispute a lack of evidence.

“In nearly a year traveling the world and interviewing officials in different countries, I found precisely zero evidence of the Biden’s corruption in Ukraine. No credible sources ever provided proof of criminal activity,” Parnas said.

But Republicans jumped on Democrats for calling Parnas as a witness. “The Democrats could have sent anyone. They could have sent Hunter Biden, they could have sent Joe Biden. …The Democrats could have sought any person to come a refute the direct evidence backed up by bank statements, backed up calendar entries, backed up by e-mails, backed up by text messages. But who did democrats send to clear the name of Joe and Hunter Biden? They sent Lev Parnas. Lev Parnas who was charged with enough crimes and violating our campaign finance laws to, like, serve 50 years,” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said.

The hearing comes at a critical juncture for the GOP probe. Leaders have been weighing forgoing any formal vote on their impeachment inquiry, and are now instead weighing making a criminal referral to the Justice Department, another potentially fraught pathway. More Republicans are openly questioning the inquiry, including its evidentiary basis, and whether it will ever come to a vote on the House floor. Conservative media have also been increasingly skeptical, with a Newsmax anchor telling House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), “Unless you get Democratic votes, this is going to be real tough. So, it kind of seems like you’re chasing your tail at this point because this is not going to go anywhere.”

Comer defended the probe at the close of the hearing. “Mr. Bobulinski, Mr. Galanis have delivered testimony directly implicating Mr. Biden and his family influence peddling schemes, schemes that brought over $24 million into the Biden family and their business associates pockets,” Comer said. A Washington Post fact check found that the bulk of that money went to other business associates, not the Biden family. “For what? I’ve never heard the minority say what they did or what business they were in,” Comer added.

But Democrats took turns making light of the GOP progress. Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) crafted a Top 10 list of the reasons the GOP impeachment inquiry is dead, complete with a chart showing a flatlining heartbeat. “At what point are you going to fish or cut bait? So I just have to tell you, it’s over. Impeachment is over. Donezo, bye bye, rigor mortis, lights out, curtain drop, mic drop, peace, adios, sayonara, do svidaniya, a language y’all know,” Swalwell said, seeking to connect to GOP to Russia. And Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.) jokingly moved to kick off an impeachment vote during the hearing, suggesting that Republicans were reticent to do so. “They are never going to impeach Joe Biden. It is never going to happen. They don’t have the evidence. This is a show. It is all fake,” Moskowitz said. “If these hearings were a success, if what we have been doing the last 15 months had convinced the American people that Joe Biden committed a high crime and misdemeanor, you can be sure they would’ve called the vote by now.”
 
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And when the DoJ does not charge Biden with the 'criminal referrals' then they can blame a cover up.
Comer suggests impeachment vote not ‘best path’ on Biden probe
House Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) suggested that the impeachment vote against President Biden may not be the “best path,” and thinks criminal referrals will be the way to go.

“I believe that the best path to accountability is criminal referrals,” Comer told Newsmax hosts on Thursday.

The Oversight Committee on Wednesday held a hearing on the impeachment inquiry into Biden. Democrats pressured Republicans to identify the criminal conduct underlying their probe as doubts rise about the future of the investigation into the president’s business dealings.

Comer argued in the interview that “real accountability” for Biden now looks like “providing real criminal referrals to the Department of Justice” because the Democrat-controlled Senate would likely table any impeachment into Biden “like they’re gonna do with the Merrick Garland impeachment.”

“I would vote to impeach Joe Biden right now. The impeachment inquiry was meant to give us more tools to be able to gather more information to be able to win in court,” he said.

During the hearing, Democrats were quick to ask Comer and other GOP members to name the crime or misdemeanor that is the root of their investigation.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) questioned why the impeachment was proceeding if the GOP has “no charges.” She said she has “yet to hear” from Comer that Republicans are specifically charging Biden with anything, since he often referred to wrongdoing by the “Biden family.”

“I am not hearing the specific allegation by this committee. What is it? It is not here. And that is the problem. The story is when this committee knew they were working with falsified evidence? That is the story,” Ocasio-Cortez said during the hearing.

Even after the hearing, Comer insisted that “the Bidens” have committed crimes by selling “access to @POTUS.”

Comer posted online that “in the coming days” he will invite Biden to testify before the committee and “explain why his family received tens of millions of dollars from foreign companies with his assistance.”
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
And when the DoJ does not charge Biden with the 'criminal referrals' then they can blame a cover up.
Comer suggests impeachment vote not ‘best path’ on Biden probe
House Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) suggested that the impeachment vote against President Biden may not be the “best path,” and thinks criminal referrals will be the way to go.

“I believe that the best path to accountability is criminal referrals,” Comer told Newsmax hosts on Thursday.

The Oversight Committee on Wednesday held a hearing on the impeachment inquiry into Biden. Democrats pressured Republicans to identify the criminal conduct underlying their probe as doubts rise about the future of the investigation into the president’s business dealings.

Comer argued in the interview that “real accountability” for Biden now looks like “providing real criminal referrals to the Department of Justice” because the Democrat-controlled Senate would likely table any impeachment into Biden “like they’re gonna do with the Merrick Garland impeachment.”

“I would vote to impeach Joe Biden right now. The impeachment inquiry was meant to give us more tools to be able to gather more information to be able to win in court,” he said.

During the hearing, Democrats were quick to ask Comer and other GOP members to name the crime or misdemeanor that is the root of their investigation.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) questioned why the impeachment was proceeding if the GOP has “no charges.” She said she has “yet to hear” from Comer that Republicans are specifically charging Biden with anything, since he often referred to wrongdoing by the “Biden family.”

“I am not hearing the specific allegation by this committee. What is it? It is not here. And that is the problem. The story is when this committee knew they were working with falsified evidence? That is the story,” Ocasio-Cortez said during the hearing.

Even after the hearing, Comer insisted that “the Bidens” have committed crimes by selling “access to @POTUS.”

Comer posted online that “in the coming days” he will invite Biden to testify before the committee and “explain why his family received tens of millions of dollars from foreign companies with his assistance.”
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Witch hunt.

Republicans subpoena Biden ghost writer
Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee on Friday subpoenaed President Biden’s ghost writer, advancing their efforts to gain access to recordings and a transcript of conversations referenced by special counsel Robert Hur.

Hur’s report indicates that Biden at three different times read passages from his notebook that references classified information while working with ghost writer Mark Zwonitzer to develop his memoir.

Zwonitzer at one point deleted the recordings, but they were recovered by Hur’s team, who did not recommend any charges for the ghost writer or Biden.

The escalation comes after Zwonitzer apparently initially agreed to turn over the materials, only to change course.

“On March 11, 2024—over two weeks after the return date on the original letter—your attorney informed the Committee you would not produce the documents without a subpoena compelling your cooperation,” committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) wrote in a letter accompanying the subpoena.

The subpoena is one of numerous efforts House Republicans have made to get their hands on materials related to Hur’s investigation.

In February the panel sent a letter to Hur requesting transcripts and audio recordings of Biden’s interviews with the special counsel.

The transcript has been released to the committee, and a review by media outlets including The Hill found there was more nuance to Hur’s claims surrounding Biden’s memory.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
This farce from some of the people who committed contempt of Congress by blowing off Jan 6 subpoenas. That means you, Gym — along with Scott, Perry, Brooks et al.

 
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