The Fab 5! DNA Genetics

Fditty00 said:

^^^^ if u email general hydro. Tell em u were thinkin of switching from whatever, to thier product. They will send u there 7 bottle 1qt lineup. For $25. Its the www.generalhydroponics.com. It comes with a qt of there call/mag. So if ur already low on nutes. For $25 id get the whole lineup

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i actually have a Box full of some type of nutes sitting at UPS right now, I just needa pick them up.. just havent really cared cause I have a lot of nutes that i also got for free!

^^^ its all crap. They jus get paid to sell a different product. Many people on here use it, including me. No probs after

It is only going to be an issue if you are doing organics in the soil instead of feeding a lot bottled stuff. If you are feeding a lot of stuff you probably wont even notice, especially if your using other mineral based nutrients. But if your mostly just giving water and relying on the organics in the soil then use some of the Plus version will kill a lot of your micro-life. There is a large posting on Skunk Magazine's forum too...but of course that kind of biased because the guy whole wrote the article (The Rev) is the same one who started the thread.

Yeah but anyway I started using it and some bud candy only with fresh soil starting a bud cycle and started having tons of blemishes on the fan leaves. I was like "WTF" and figured the bud candy was the culprit...maybe giving too many micros...but then read that article and it seems to have explained my exact situation.

I hear ya guys "Don't believe everything ya read" but I think there is some validity to this. Calmag Plus has EDTA in it, which a lot of mineral ("chemical") based nutrients have. btw - Both Fox Farm's Grow Big and Tiger Bloom have a few ETDA's in there too. I did a few searches on "EDTA" and there seems to be controversy if it should be in our food supply. Anywho, everyone do what they want in their on grow rooms, I was only try to help a little since I noticed organic soil was being used.

Interesting. Why not use dolomite? It is abundant in nature, so it is natural stuff and dolomite has both Ca and Mg. Only drawback would be that it is gonna take sometime to be released and absorbed but not that much time in my opinion (since both Ca and Mg are in carbonate form in dolomite)...

mv400 said:

Interesting. Why not use dolomite? It is abundant in nature, so it is natural stuff and dolomite has both Ca and Mg. Only drawback would be that it is gonna take sometime to be released and absorbed but not that much time in my opinion...

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Good call! Ironically that is what I used this last week since I was not having good luck with the Calmag Plus. I crushed up about two sm teasoons worth of lime and but in a couple liters of water with a little bud candy. Man it worked GREAT. I should have added more to my soil in the first place and didn't...hence my ultimate need for cal and mag. And I hate doing that method since it is kinda risky blindly dumping unknown amount of nutrients in...but yeah it worked, I had leaves getting red spots and I had leaves rolling up like banana boats. Both problems successfully avoided!

So you just added crushed Dolo, to your water feeding?

Fditty00 said:

So you just added crushed Dolo, to your water feeding?

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It's Espoma Organic Traditions Garden Lime. --think I got it at home depot on sale last year. But the ingredients are pretty revealing for cal/mag needs...

• Calcium 21%
• Magnesium 10%
• Calcium Oxide 29%
• Magnesium Oxide 17%
• Calcium Carbonate 52%
• Magnesium Carbonate 35%

So I read the desription, it says 2-4 tablespoons per plant, early spring. I assume thats mixed in the soil. However, u watered it in? No probs? 2 tsp per plant, or per gallon?

Carbonates dissolve in water, of course Carbondioxide in water accelerates the process

Don't laugh but I actually have a medicine grinder...a mortar (had to google that)...it was my grandparent's lol. I have done this a couple times actually. I grind up a few tablespoons worth of the garden lime and the take out a smaller amount of the really ground out powdery lime. Actually I just went a looked at my notes; I used 1 tsp for 2 liters of water. (a gallon is 4 liters) with 1 ml bud candy. This was 5 days ago and I really headed the problem off here.... and I am comparing this to a previous batch, same soil, but used the calmag plus twice 1 ml to 2 liters of water. Like I said my red spots in the veins problem is not continuing it appears, and I can for sure say my banana boat looking leaves have flatted back out(yeah!).

EDIT: OH YEAH! Make sure to level out the PH like you normally would. And I leave this mixture to sit over night to make sure the PH is gonna stick. Lime as we all know will neutralize PH in soil, but it will add about 1.5 points to your waters PH from my experiences. ...it will take more PH down to get to 7 than it normally will take with straight water.

Nice info! My girls are fine as of now, fingerz crossed. I have about 3-3 1/2 weeks left til harvest. IF, I should incounter any probs, ill give it a whirl. Probaby add extra to my Sunshine#4 next go. <<< #4 has Dolo. But not enough. + rep on the info brah

Everything looking good bro I use calmag when my leaves get those goofy spots on it works great to late for the girls I had though didn't get it early enough

wow lots of posts since this morning.. Anyways, good info thanks guys! I was looking and one of the og has some MAJOR nitrogen burn, its completely dried out its bottom leaves.. fucking mg time released nutes.. its wierd that its only one though but its got some major clawing going on too and unfortunetly its not gonna make it throught the first round of cuts.. I really want to transplant but got midterms but then I have spring break so Ill have plenty of time after tomorrow..

Nute burn! On just 1? That was a bitch ass pheno anyway

must be.. either that or that plant got more time released nutes in the soil than the rest I have no clue, a couple others look dark green but no clawing..

Yeah I have not had any look with MG brand stuff either. Even tried a couple of their organic mixes. My god it even burned my tomatoes this past summer! LOL no kidding. I'm trying to swear off the stuff

hey Ditty thanks for the rep bud! Here's some back a ya

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now that i see them again it looks like all the ogs are clawing... must be a nute sensitive strain

looks like the sleestack and kandykush are gonna be my bread winners of the family they look like they need a transplant quick!