The Art of The Auto

I've LST'ed autos, It seems to induce flowering earlier...
Anybody else find this conclusion?

nealcook420 said:

I've LST'ed autos, It seems to induce flowering earlier...
Anybody else find this conclusion?

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I hadn't heard that before... good to know... or at least consider... you must have had experience with this tho... do you think thats because the plants sees it as as "stress" anyway? Like, in nature, maybe its in a deer path and getting trampled?

alsoNC.. can you tell me any answers on my last questions on cloning and crossing? also heres a chart... can you tell me if I'm messed up anywhere?


also, how long can i store pollen in refrig? 2 moths? keep it in a plastic bag sealed with a paper towel for mosture or something?
thanks
J

JM: Put the pollen in the freezer, with a few grains of rice in it. Moisture is the mortal enemy of pollen. Try to get all the plant bits out of it as you can.

Should store for a LONG time. I've got some auto assasin pollen, that has kept for over 16 months now. Try to avoid taking the whole thing in and out of the freezer. The changes in temp so fast will create muisture on the pollen and reduce the shelf life.

Bighill said:

JM: Put the pollen in the freezer, with a few grains of rice in it. Moisture is the mortal enemy of pollen. Try to get all the plant bits out of it as you can.

Should store for a LONG time. I've got some auto assasin pollen, that has kept for over 16 months now. Try to avoid taking the whole thing in and out of the freezer. The changes in temp so fast will create muisture on the pollen and reduce the shelf life.

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shit mna... thanks for the advice... I knew somebody on here could help... just wanted to be prepped... did you check my chart and stuff? can you offer any advice on that stuff?

thanks again

J

@JM maybe you could store them in a couple(or more) of containers so you can avoid taking the whole thing out of the freezer like BH said, and use just what you need.

@BH got the email...nice name...hahaha

yeah.. I think I'll be ok on that... just use cryo-geneics lab mode... one of the upsides of really cold winters... no enviro adjust needed for freezing and below temps!

nealcook420 said:

> FD...
I just wanted to tell you that at the moment I'm unemployed and have a lot of free time on my hands...
Your thread is the onlt thing keeping me sane, I wake up and take my morning dose of info and pics...
Thank you, FullDuplex!

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Ahh Neal make a grown man blush.......

Thanks bro i really appreciate it, but it wouldnt be what it is with out the rest of you.
All the input, pics, discussions, methods, remedy's, breeding info, and great vibe
has really been the driver and it has all came from all of us not just one.

This is why Auto growers are a different kind. They all seem to get along as they all share one interest.
Here ive noticed its not about what strain you have or who has the frostiest plants.
Sure we all LOVE to see that stuff and possess it, but the crowd seems to see things a little different.
Everyone is willing to lend a hand and pass the information, making us all successful in what we do.
and thats all i wanted to see, so thank you NC and the rest of the crew out there as well.

yeah, its truly a beautiful thing... I've looked around other threads and forums and I see a lot of "back-jumping" kinda shit... everyone seems to genuinely be cool in here... its nice to see...

FD... any chance I can get a little advice / direction on my posts in the last coupl pages? tryin to set up for pollen snag 1 !



J

@JM yeah you might need cryo stuff judging from the chart you have a few posts down...you'll have some serious crosses
best of luck man


peace

zen

John Mondello said:

yeah, its truly a beautiful thing... I've looked around other threads and forums and I see a lot of "back-jumping" kinda shit... everyone seems to genuinely be cool in here... its nice to see...

FD... any chance I can get a little advice / direction on my posts in the last coupl pages? tryin to set up for pollen snag 1 !



J

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You bet digging through it as we speak. This thing grew 3 pages in about 3 hours today lol

tons of stuff

@ FD - word! lol
@ zen ... could u clarifiy a little on the cryogenics part?

ps . just smoked an early scap bud from my BB... whew! nice frikin buzz!

@ JM ohhh...i don't know...there may be labs where you are that would store it for you(like sperm banks)
but i think the freezer will do fine. peace

Mossys said:

FullD..what you were saying about water marks....
I've Hallmarked them....with the name...

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I Like that, nice little Mossy touch. We now have the Mossy Wiggle, K.I.S.S, and Hallmark

Bighill said:

Ok so here are some pics of the albino. Could be the last.

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Sad to hear this bro, but like you said it will be seen again. They always are
I hope that you get one that is partial albino, every grower needs an enigma i think
Its what drives them to perfect each choice they make to one day see what they want.

John Mondello said:

also, do you think I should adjust the ph of the solution for them or should I leave it at 8.3 to help shock toward male flowers?

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Im hoping that the starting point of your solution or base water is 8.3. Forgive me if im wrong as we have had so much info in that time. If thats the case then im not freaking out in my brain that you have been running that the whole time LOL

Im not sure on pH shock so to speak, i know it can be a form of stress which can educe nanners but im not sure how to go about it. Other than just leeching the soil to completely change the pH. Im having to raise mine a bit to make Mg pick up a little better and it can be a process.

also, how long can i store pollen in refrig? 2 moths? keep it in a plastic bag sealed with a paper towel for mosture or something?

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Like BH said for some time. I have some in freeze and other in a cold fridge to keep at bay. i use whats in the fridge first and then when i need more i get it. The pollen i had in the fridge was about 2 or so months old and i hit the ICU with it and the seeds are forming nicely. Stuff seems to hold its strength well.

I keep mine in a air tight sterilized vial with silica gel balls to grab the access moisture.

ahhh ok... word... thanks man...

peace

Im hoping that the starting point of your solution or base water is 8.3. Forgive me if im wrong as we have had so much info in that time. If thats the case then im not freaking out in my brain that you have been running that the whole time LOL


first, thank for the response FD... second... I am buffering my water to around 6-6.5 (leveled out at 6.2) and things are stable... my plan is to simply take cuttings and use them as a "clone" to force male and then use the nanners... your advice hepls... thank you... I think I wont mess with the ph as I'm going to be light depping as well and I want them to survive long enough to devlop nanners.. if I recall correctly mossy said 4 days light dep will trigger the nanners...

J

John Mondello said:

I my plan is to simply take cuttings and use them as a "clone" to force male and then use the nanners...

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Yep light dep will trigger it and i do believe he said 4 hrs. One other thing i was thinking is i am not sure how they are going to respond to the cut and re root. I think that may just be the stress alone you need to get what you want. You may be killing two birds with one stone my man. will be interesting to watch.

when do you guys start giving you plants nutrients

ok... thanks for the all the guide points... lemme see if I can land this one right on the runway.

oh... as in 4hrs a day? or just 4 hours light change (less light)

typically not until day 21 if the soil has nutes in it already aka - FF ocean forest mix... otherwise... a very very light does at about10-14 days

locoyou2 said:

when do you guys start giving you plants nutrients

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This depends on several things. JM talked about the soil. The medium is important as to when you need to add it. Most of us grow organic, general compo till sex and then add ferts as we go. It depends on the strain as well some like them early some like them late. It depends on what they want so you have to listen to them and see what they need.

Something to note. IF using FF line, watch the TB it has a hell of a pH drop in it. I tested some tap water to get an idea. I get 7.0 out of the tap and i added the suggested dose to the water and checked it an hr later. I did not buffer the water. Tested an hour later it hit 6.0 thats serious. Word of caution to soil guys. If you are using a medium like compo or FFOF or anything that has a greater "hold" to it, be careful on the induction of TB be damn sure that you test it after you let it bubble a little. It could drop you 1 point on the scale and that locks out some needed elements.