THC Bomb Mothers in Flower.

TheDuder

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I took it upon myself to transplant all the sprout-lings into their 5 gal. permanent homes. Raised the lights to 48" and raised the circulating fans to it wasn't as ruff on the young-lings. Having a strange problem getting by ballasts to ignite without tripping my circuit. Its never happened before. I am in the process of distributing the load differently to fix the problem. Out of 38 White Lsd seeds, 36 are identically strong. Out of 3 G13 Haze seeds (Free with my last order), only 1 is identical to the other strains. Although, all G13 seeds showed a tap root emerging before placed in the Rapid Rooters. I am disappointed in the failure of the seeds, I was curious to try the strain with more than 1 plant. Here are some updates pics of the transplant.
 

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TheNaturalist

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Lookin good man! What kind of light are you running above all those new plants? Looks like youve got everything together but in my humble opinion it looks like your sprouts might be stretching a little from how high that light was above your cloner. That prolly wont be a problem if they are under a HID now though. Also, be careful with such small plants in big buckets, they wont be using water very quickly and all that soil will hold a lot of water so it would be really easy to over water them or let the soil in the bottom stay soggy for too long. I read a trick in Edd Rosenthals book to punch holes in the sides of the containers down near the bottom to help keep the lower part from staying wet when the top dries out. Also since those buckets look like they are on a flat surface if there are just holes in the bottoms they might be completely sealed by the floor. Although some people grow without any holes in their containers so I guess its preference.

Iv said it before but ill say it again, cant wait to see all these plants start taking off! :leaf:
 
TheDuder

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Each plant actually uses 2 buckets. The one with the soil has a bunch of holes drilled into the bottom. The second bucket does not. The hole bucket obviously goes inside the one without holes. This leaves a good 4-5 inch reservoir inside the second bucket for runoff to pool. It is a pain, but just before I flower, I empty all the runoff buckets. The runoff collects in a manner that makes testing its EC/PPM?PF really easy. Here's some pics from the build. The roots do not grow through the buckets holes for whatever reason.

The seedlings definitely stretched. Even when I sprout under the HID lights I get the same early stretch. But, in my dome the humidity is better and the heating mat underneath also add to speed up sprouting and germination. I always quickly transplant them as soon as the false leaves open fully. As they grow, I will add a little soil to the base so as to raise the ground level slightly. I once saw a grow that where the light was stuck high in the room. The sprouts stretched around 2 ft. The guy made the thin stem go around the bucket and lay on the soil so the stronger veg growth would be at ground level. He also covered the stem with soil. Interesting stuff.

It's important to match the amount of feed/water to the size of the plant. I've noticed that under a foot can do well with 500ml. I add around 500ml for every foot the plant is above that. So, 2ft- 1000ml per feed; 3ft. 1500ml. per feed; 4 ft - 2000ml per feed. I feed every third day. (Nothing nothing, feed, nothing, nothing, water, etc...) Really, its more of an instinct than those exact amounts. But those are rough numbers. With those amounts small plants don't get over watered, and bigger girls get a thorough soaking without much runoff being wasted. You can hear when water drips through one bucket and into the other. That is a great indicator that you have saturated the soil. Some strains drink more or less as well.

I am anxious to try the White L.S.D too! Glad to have you aboard. I have 3 600w MH/HPS dimmable set-ups in the larger room. Each covers a 4 by 4 area. The buckets take up exactly 1 square foot a piece. Math is fun.

-Dude
 

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OVOXO

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Your grow is very very organized. So whats the deal with being a caregiver do you get a cut of the harvest or etc? Do you get paid to do it?. Just wondering
 
TheDuder

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Caregivers are aloud to sell their products to their patients in the same fashion that a dispensary can... in cash. The harvest is mine to distribute. The patients don't have any say in things. It's a caregiver's market.

I am a huge O.C.D freak. So I am always cleaning and planning. Proper planning lead to a nice grow room. I keep very detailed charts and everything. I have only recently started taking pictures though for RIU's sake.

-The Dude
 
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OldLuck

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Very nice journal. I have 3 thc bombs 2 weeks in flower in hydro. All 3 very uniform and took topping very well.
 
TheDuder

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Lucky: Do you have a journal for them. I'd love to voyeur your bud porn. I agree, mine are uniform and stable. Although, have you noticed a phenotype than is slightly thinner and taller?

In Maine, we have a caregiver's union that provides referrals to patients in need of a caregiver. I am listed on their website, as are many others. Caregivers provide available strains, prices, and contact info, delivery distances and 30 dollars in union dues a month to get these referrals. There are trade shows for caregivers to display product and network. There are festivals all the time. It is really progressive here! I love feeling free. Here is a link to our union: http://www.mmcmonline.org/

-Dude
 
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OldLuck

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If you go to my link and the last few pages have them. I just put up pixs of them from last week. Had surgery on my hand last week so no full journal until next grow. I will have to look more closely at them. But my canopy is pretty even.
 
OVOXO

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See I used to live in Vermont so I'm pretty sure I could handle maine's weather. I Like that bro very uniform very well planned. My second grow is going to be very on point. Charts can never be bad. haha actually when I was 15-16 I was trying to grow and I had a chart and named it a experiment. when I got caught i didnt get any heat for it because of that. so yeah Charts rock
 
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TheDuder said:
Each plant actually uses 2 buckets. The one with the soil has a bunch of holes drilled into the bottom. The second bucket does not. The hole bucket obviously goes inside the one without holes. This leaves a good 4-5 inch reservoir inside the second bucket for runoff to pool. It is a pain, but just before I flower, I empty all the runoff buckets. The runoff collects in a manner that makes testing its EC/PPM?PF really easy. Here's some pics from the build. The roots do not grow through the buckets holes for whatever reason.

The seedlings definitely stretched. Even when I sprout under the HID lights I get the same early stretch. But, in my dome the humidity is better and the heating mat underneath also add to speed up sprouting and germination. I always quickly transplant them as soon as the false leaves open fully. As they grow, I will add a little soil to the base so as to raise the ground level slightly. I once saw a grow that where the light was stuck high in the room. The sprouts stretched around 2 ft. The guy made the thin stem go around the bucket and lay on the soil so the stronger veg growth would be at ground level. He also covered the stem with soil. Interesting stuff.

It's important to match the amount of feed/water to the size of the plant. I've noticed that under a foot can do well with 500ml. I add around 500ml for every foot the plant is above that. So, 2ft- 1000ml per feed; 3ft. 1500ml. per feed; 4 ft - 2000ml per feed. I feed every third day. (Nothing nothing, feed, nothing, nothing, water, etc...) Really, its more of an instinct than those exact amounts. But those are rough numbers. With those amounts small plants don't get over watered, and bigger girls get a thorough soaking without much runoff being wasted. You can hear when water drips through one bucket and into the other. That is a great indicator that you have saturated the soil. Some strains drink more or less as well.

I am anxious to try the White L.S.D too! Glad to have you aboard. I have 3 600w MH/HPS dimmable set-ups in the larger room. Each covers a 4 by 4 area. The buckets take up exactly 1 square foot a piece. Math is fun.

-Dude
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Whats the white stuff your mixing the bug stuff right?
And do you keep them in the 5 gallons from seedling to flower?
 
TheDuder

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The weather is awesome here! Windows open all year and cozy heat in the winter. I love the snow! I planned a lot for my current set-up. Searching the best prices online and everything took countless hours. I found the cheapest prices for almost everything at High Tech Grow Supply. I will take a picture of my charts on Monday with the update.

Out of 40 White L.S.D seeds, 32 germinated, sprouted and are strong. 3 didn't germinate at all and 5 had abnormal growth and were disgarded.
Out of 3 G13 haze seeds, 3 germinated but only one fully sprouted. Only the 1 remains and the remaining 2 were disgarded.
These numbers are very low! I almost always have near 100% success rates. I'd like to think the error is not mine. The White L.S.D came buy one get one free and the G13 were free altogether so i suppose I shouldn't complain over failed free seeds.

What remains and will (God willing) make it through the grow is 36 girls in my larger room: 3 THC Bomb, 1 G13 Haze, and 32 White L.S.D. 12 under each 600w Mh/HPS. I still have the 2 mothers in flowers as well in the smaller room.

I have an air conditioner for the room on order in the hopes of lowering night-time temperatures during flower so the buds may go purple. I'd like the daytime temps down 5 degrees as well. Should be here soom.

-Dude
 
TheDuder

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I do keep them in the 5 gallon buckets all the way through. I would have liked to have re potted the mothers because they were so big before flower started. I fear not doing so will lose me some bud. I was seconds from killing them but after surviving all I did to them, I have to see what they'll give me.

The larger room will be a much better example of how I normally cycle the plants. At just under a foot I top each plant. Then I LST and other techniques for 2 weeks to form an even canopy. Then I prune them up for flower. Then I put them under 12/12. I end up with an indica hybrid finishing at 3 1/2ft. or so. I've never had them seen root bound that big in a 5 gal. I have never grown a sativa though and wonder if the additional height would translate also to additional root growth.

I mixed a gallon of perlite in for every 5 gallons of Fox Farm Happy Frog and added about a tblspn. per 5 gal of Diatomaceous Earth (bug killer) as well. I multiplied these numbers to mix 6 cu. ft. at once on a paint drop cloth. The perlite comes cheapest in bulk from HomeDepot.Com.

-Dude'r

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OVOXO

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TheDuder said:
I do keep them in the 5 gallon buckets all the way through. I would have liked to have re potted the mothers because they were so big before flower started. I fear not doing so will lose me some bud. I was seconds from killing them but after surviving all I did to them, I have to see what they'll give me.

The larger room will be a much better example of how I normally cycle the plants. At just under a foot I top each plant. Then I LST and other techniques for 2 weeks to form an even canopy. Then I prune them up for flower. Then I put them under 12/12. I end up with an indica hybrid finishing at 3 1/2ft. or so. I've never had them seen root bound that big in a 5 gal. I have never grown a sativa though and wonder if the additional height would translate also to additional root growth.

I mixed a gallon of perlite in for every 5 gallons of Fox Farm Happy Frog and added about a tblspn. per 5 gal of Diatomaceous Earth (bug killer) as well. I multiplied these numbers to mix 6 cu. ft. at once on a paint drop cloth. The perlite comes cheapest in bulk from HomeDepot.Com.

-Dude'r

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Thats pretty sick dude. I wonder does lowering the temps on any strain have a chance of a purple color or no?
I'm planning on wherever i move starting around august I want to convert a room into a grow room
 
TheDuder

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I have heard that lowering night temps will make the buds go purple for all strains. I have not tested this myself. I sure hope so; but, the main reason for the ac is to lower day temps a few degrees if it gets to high.

-Dude
 
TheDuder

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It's been a good week for the girls. Temperatures are a few degrees higher than I'd like but I'm working on that. The mothers have pretty much stopped stretching and are focusing on bud growth like good sluts. Today is day 19 of flower and there are countless hairs, and thrichome production has fully begun. At this stage, they have the faintest lemon smell to them.

The 3 THC Bombs in veg are at a foot today. I topped them each at the 6th node and removed the lowest set of branches and a few primitive leaves around the base. They don't seem to mind as usual. Lower branch growth is significant and they are all reaching for the canopy.

The 32 White L.S.D that were chosen are progressing as expected. They are each working on their second set of leaves. I have been gradually increasing the aggravation of the oscillating fans to toughen their little stems. They are strong when blown upon. I keep the surface of the soil, and just below it moist with a sprayer and distilled water to prevent the soil from drying out. I spray the seedlings when I do this as well. I am cycling the lights above the new White L.S.D to avoid heat or light stress. I turn one on for 4.5 hours, then off and do the same to the light beside it. I don't do this with the light over the larger THC Bombs as the light is 22 inches above them which is a full foot above the sprouts. Essentially they get the same 18 hour day, but half of it is indirect light from the lights around it. I split the time into quarters because if left off for 9 hours, they would stretch towards the light beside them. With the time split as above, by the time they barely start to turn towards the other light, it cycles again. Once I get the light down to 22 inches above their heads I will leave the lights on for the normal schedule; 18/6.

Without more of me... lets talk about them....

-Dude
 

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Glad to have you. Wish I had more interest in the thread. I hope when the buds look gnarly, more will come to look. Feel free to chime in whenever you'd like.

-Dude'r
 
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When I have the space to upgrade my grow, I will be doing Scrog style grows. What I am interested in is the training. I will use a 600 HPS for a 4' x 4' square netting with 4" square holes. 1 plant per light, per screen. 1 main stalk upto 18", bare legs below, and the training from 18" - 25". The netting placed @ 25" from the soil. From here the training and spreading begins. Air cooled lights to keep the lights 8" above the canopy.
 
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