Tha Dope man187's first grow

this is my first grow first is the information about what im doing...

ok to start off im doing a stealth, micro, cfl, soil grow in a small scale dresser

first ill list all the things u need to grow(dumb coming from a beginner but its easier to state the way ill be responding to the things u need)

1. wall/side/bottom/top reflection for the walls for better lumens to your plant.
-ill be using white printing paper taped to the sides/bottom/top of the dresser.

2. light leaks-ill be taping one side of Velcro to the 2 sides of the dresser near the top and 2 on the top roof of the dresser and the other sides taped on to a garbage bag with one side all white printing paper taped to it and the other just a black garbage bag and im using Velcro so the garbage bag will overlap the drawers so o light will leak out threw any cracks

3. Air- in the back end of the dresser i cut out 2 holes at approx.
(not completely circle) becuz i used a knife to do so one at the top right hand corner and one at the bottom left hand corner
the one at the top right was for outtake and the one on the bottom left was for intake they are both just holes right now but i was going to leave them as just open holes until the plants start to flower/bud/smell then i was going to buy enough materials to make 2 homemade carbon filters and add ONLY one fan to the outtake hole NO FAN TO THE INTAKE and becuz i attend collage and live with my family for another 2 years so i need to have no smell and no noise (noise)unless im home(noise)
so i was only going to have the fan running when i get home 3pm to when i go to bed 10 earliest and 12 latest (unless its a weekend) so only have the fan running for a 3pm-11pm schedule on average and mostly longer on weekends

would this work?

4. water- iwas just going to use plain old tap water but i was going to leave it in my closet or something with the lid open for 24-48 hours (which will turn it into distilled water?)

so the ph will be normal correct?

5. odar already stated im using a homemade carbon filter, dryer sheets, and maybe coffee grounds

6.lighting- CFLS ALL THE WAY but not usre the wattage im just going to try and get 4 bulbs of around 23-28 watts of more (what ever i can get for $10)

what store has cheaper lighting? walmart or Canadian tire?

6. light reflectors- im going to be using pie pans/tins for my light reflectors but either putting a piece of wood on the back or not(probably wood or thin wood left from scraps of the dresser) then ill screw the pie pan/tin into the wood and add 2 holes in each pie pan/tin for the light fixture/socket cords on each side. then ill add on more hole on each side a few inchs infront of the ligth socket/fixture so i can add a thin metal chain to the cfls to hole them flat of the surface of the pie pan/tin then add closed screw in hooks( C- looks like this when its a open hook and O- looks liek this when its closed) and attach chains to adjust the light height.


7. lighting adjustments-for adjusting the lights im attaching CLOSED screw-in hooks into the pie pans/tins (or wood on the back of the pie pans/tins) and adding cheap chains(2 or 4 for every pie pan/tin)
and then adding screw in hooks into the roof/top of the dresser so when i need to lower/raise the lights i just lift the chain higher and put the closer/futher link on the chain on the screw in hooks on the roof/top of the dresser

8. outside the dresser set up-i added 2 screw in the bottom of the bottom dresser drawer but they kinda snapped from flipping the dresser up and down and sideways so now the bottom drawer pretty much leans on them but the drawer has the complete same appearance.
although im only going to be opening my top drawer (the one i added hings too((one broke off cuz the dressers a piece of SHIT)) ) so it only has one hing but i added 3-4 garbage ties and tied them around a screw on the inside of the dresser and one on he drawer to help support the drawer hen its opened(becuz the hings were added and the drawers were a bad size theres about a 1/2-1 inch hole where the hing is) but the garbage bag will cover up the light leaks becuz its overlapping every edge, crack, and hole

so to maintain, water, talk to, look at, and play with my plant lol(shes gonna be my good friend that id never fuck u know one of those girls u met in high school that u dated and then dumped and they're like the closest person to u?) lol this is going to be mine lol ok so im going to be adding the pictures i have of the dresser before i did anything and then the steps i did

thats my basic set up/ plan for this grow(my first) i wont yeild much becuz the space in restricted to hight but if they can do in in a pc case i can deffiently do it in this motherfucker heres my steps and pictures of the steps i did (with a legend in my next post after the pictures

heres the legend for the last to drawing pictures


color legend

back and front



green - outtake fan with a carbon filter on it
red - outtake hole
blue - intake hole
yellow - white printing paper(covering the garbage bag completly (one side completly black and the other completly white)
light blue - velcrow (one half on the wood and the other on the garbage bag)
purple - door hings and magnetic hing thingy
orange - screws
black - wood/dresser outline
gray - garbage bag

color legend

bottom and top

yellow - white printing paper
pink - metal pie pans/tins
red - cfl bulbs
dark green - light fixtures/sockets
light blue - hole in pie pan/tin for light cords
gray - light cords
light green - chains for adjusting the lights(each pie pan/tin will be adjusted by it self(2-3 bulbs in each)
dark blue - screw-in hooks for adjusting the chains
black - wood/dresser outline
purple - plant pots

thanks man probly the first time someones said nice about it lol cuz its soo ghetto but last time i put maybe $20 buck into trying to grow but i thought about it if ur gonna grow u get what u pay for right?? like u pay say $150 on just a light and $150 on a hydroponic system ur gonna get some bomb shit if u do it right but if i dont do it as ghetto any make it kinda in the middle it ll be alrgith bud i guess atleast i hope thanks for the comment man same goes for u i like ur grow man keep it up

man ive been WAY too baked lately lol never thought of making things LESS complicated instead of making hooks, chains, and hoods why dont i just screw the hoods into the roof of the grow box once i have the lights and then i can jsut raise the plant up instead of lowering the lights lol wayyyy easier ill just use like dvd cases or something better idea right ? anyone ? bump....

heres a little picture update on what i did so far

1 & 2 are just outside pictures of the dresser (the holes wont be there later becuz im still putting a garbage bag with white paper in front of it

3. shows the side i messed up with the hings (i flipped the drawer face around so i could put the hings on the other side)

4. shows the hings from the outside(visible but its not that bad cuz my parents aren't gonna just look at it close enough)

5. the hings from the inside and the other side of the door

6. the magnetic thingy that u use to keep doors and drawers closed with the copper piece on the drawer face

7. plain outline picture of the box with the one door opened

8. closer outline picture with the door opened and the lower face removed(its removable and easy to place back all it is is it have 2 screw and the bottom snapped like on the side i did the hings the first time so it just sits on 2 screws)

9. just a closer picture of the intake and outtake holes (outtakes at the top right) (intakes at the bottom left)

10. just a zoomed in view of the outtake hole

11. the garbage bag and white printing paper reflector thingy this is the one im going to place in front of the drawer faces with just Velcro at the top so i can remove the top half first and bottom half if i need to ill have it done soon this is obivisly the white paper side

10. garbage bag reflector thingy again just the other side

Heres the Update as of today

ive added all he velcro to the sides, and top of the dresser and the oppisite velcro to the garbage bag with the white paper on it and ive added one side of white paper the other side and roof are still blank wood but i have school tomorrow so im just going to add the side of white paper and then wait until i buy the light bulbs and find some sockets to add the white paper on the top (im adding white paper on the top even tho im going to be screwing in the pie pans into a piece of wood and screwing the wood into the top

picture legend

1. picture of the outline (taken before i added the white paper to the side) the garbage bag with white paper that's half in and half out of the dresser is the on that blocks the light leaks with the Velcro

2. a strip of velcro that i stapled to the garbage bag

3. half of the velcro give or take just another picture showing the velcro on the garbage bag that i stapled

4. a strip of velcro on the inside of the dresser(ta ken before i added the white paper to the side((the paper doesnt overlap the velcro )) )

5. picture of the dresser opened with the garbage bag attached to the velcro

6. a picture of the main outline of the dresser up til now( in the picture u can see the garbage bag threw the holes but thats just becuz my cameras very new and has a REALLY bright flash(most of these pictures were taken in pitch black ) lol but if this grow works then i can deffenitly get some nice pictures of the hairs and nods

sorry one more picture i forgot to add of the inside with the one side completed

and also....

i was going to add an additional plan black garbage bag strap thats taped at the top just in front of the velcro to help stop light leaks even more.

and becuz as some of u may have noticed the bottom of this dresser has no bottom/floor so its just white paper over my rug so im going to just PLACE not screw, not tape, not glue, just PLACE a piece of wood that has white paint on it (extra shelve from my closet)

just so the plants are level and dont tip over and are just more level and stable

m only adding the paper and im working tomorrow after collage so i will maybe post if a idea comes up or i add/change anything in the grow box

but if i dont ill post the day after tomorrow becuz that's when im buying a new scale and maybe lights(depending how much money i make tomorrow) (im picking up a nice size of chronic if i work enough tomorrow) so ill probably pick up the lights in the next 3 days for sure(maybe soil first?) i might buy soil before i buy the bulbs becuz Walmart or canadian tire might put away there soil for the winter soon and bulbs are alwas available

you are right you do what you pay for. 4 CFLs will not get you shit. You NEED more light if you even want an a quarter to smoke on. go with more CFLS, or for a a industrial HID light. Justr have to know where to look. Good luck, hope you get it figured out and going

wonderblunder said:

you are right you do what you pay for. 4 CFLs will not get you shit. You NEED more light if you even want an a quarter to smoke on. go with more CFLS, or for a a industrial HID light. Justr have to know where to look. Good luck, hope you get it figured out and going

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i know u didnt mean it in a bad way but HID is wayyy to expensive this is a low budget mciro-grow organic and im using cfls becuz i saw a simular gro well 4 grows 2 being pc grows where people got a onze on adverage each harvest and a onze would be sweet for me that all ill want and another grow the guy just finished with only 3 26w cfls and not a pc case and he got 35gs of dryed bud and if i can get just 7 each plant (3-5 plants) so around a onze on adverage that ll be fine for me its just for personnal smoke but just saying if $10 on bulbs can get me 35gs then im going with that and its small and stealth so cfls are the best way to go and becuz im thinking of not even using a fan let alone a huge exhaust for a big HID or HPSthe space is only 2 1/2' or 3' max with out lights i doubt a HPS would fit but ill just go for it

I hear ya, I have been there before. I started with 1 CFL in a 1.5X1.5X1.5 box. My parents tore them out of the ground before they were even 8 inches tall. THen onto a bigger CFL setup and then HIDS. My first harvest involved 10 48" flourescent tubes, resulting in 7 grams. I then harvested under a 400w MH and got almost 2 ounces. As time goes by keep adding things and one day you will have a killer grow. Always a good idea to stay low key if you are not a medical patient/caregiver. When do you plan to have the plants in there?

im going to germinate probly in 2 weeks max but a week give or take a few days cuz i need to find some light sockets, buy some soil, bulbs, and a timer then get the seeds off m friend i can get fem. seeds but i thought i shouldnt get fem. seeds for my first grow maybe my second but not first more money if i fuck up goes down the drain so anyways i was gonna get around 5 seeds to start with or i could get 20 seeds for like $30 but i dont have much money(i do but im buying a QP tomorrow so i wont have much money left but i wanted to get the cheapest stuff (timer, soil(only 8 quarts cuz i got no car and i have to carry it home in my backpack), and bulbs ) i was going to just start with 3 26w cfls one the seed/seedlings for a bit but i didnt want to take them out of the dark/light for the time that im putting the new lights in later i was going to add 6 26w cfls or 3 higher wattage cfls....either like 6 26w cfls or 3 48w cfls bigger wattage bulbs would be better so i dont have to buy so many desk lamps and take them all apart (no home depot around me) only canadian tire and i was going to check if they had sockets cheap and just buy them im checking walmart and canadian tire right now comparing prices so ill post on tomorrow i gotta go to a test tomorrow in my phyics tomorrow i need to stay with the 65 adverage i got and i gotta work so i dont no how late but ill be sure to post thanks fo the support man

i just searched canadian tire and i came up with 26w cfls as the highest wattage cfl in there store WOW:O but there 10 for the 3 pack or 6 for 20 should i get 3 of these? or check walmart?

and the highest one i found on walmart was a 40w but they want 10 a piece for the 40ws but the 40ws are 2840 each and the 26w are 1750 so im guessing 3 26w would be better then 1 40w there the same price and ill probly just use these light bulbs for this grow and then i can buy the 40w for each socket i have installed

but i really highly doubt that 3 26w cfls would grow 2-4 plants even if i lst them but if i have 6 26w cfls it would work probly right? so instead of 2 pie pans ill try to get a third and add 2 lights for each pie pan or just add the extra 2 cfls with pop can reflectors (just a pop can sliced flat as a reflector

anyone think this many light would work? should i have less plants to increase my yeild? like would it be better to have only 2 plants and give them all that space or have 4-5 with less space? either way im lsting them but i gotta go to sleep ill post back tomorrow after i get home

peace

P.S 6 26w cfl woul give me just over 10,000 lumens and if somone can grow a plant on 3 26w cfls i should be able to get atleast 3 right?

Tha Dope man187 said:

P.S 6 26w cfl woul give me just over 10,000 lumens and if somone can grow a plant on 3 26w cfls i should be able to get atleast 3 right?

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yo there dopeman - thanks for the link

i think your setup looks fairly good, no reason you shouldn't be able to pull an oz out of there

with cfl's, the trick is up close, get even a 26w bulb within a couple of inches of a branch/bud and that should be a pretty good bud

the amount of lumens you get of cfl's seems to peak around the 26w for given watts

vegging with cfl's is a bit more straight forward - they really produce good a good spectrum for vegging - many growers use 6400k for veg, i used 5500k which is very close to the sun's kelvin temp

the real trick is the budding - my experience is mostly outdoors so i'm no expert - but i found the cheap GE 26w 2700k cfl's from walmart are fine flowering cfl's - these bulbs give about 67 lumens/watt which is quite good, and their price is nice and low

growone said:

yo there dopeman - thanks for the link

i think your setup looks fairly good, no reason you shouldn't be able to pull an oz out of there

with cfl's, the trick is up close, get even a 26w bulb within a couple of inches of a branch/bud and that should be a pretty good bud

the amount of lumens you get of cfl's seems to peak around the 26w for given watts

vegging with cfl's is a bit more straight forward - they really produce good a good spectrum for vegging - many growers use 6400k for veg, i used 5500k which is very close to the sun's kelvin temp

the real trick is the budding - my experience is mostly outdoors so i'm no expert - but i found the cheap GE 26w 2700k cfl's from walmart are fine flowering cfl's - these bulbs give about 67 lumens/watt which is quite good, and their price is nice and low

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thanks for posting growone and im sure the 26w cfls will work cuz ive seen alot of grows where people only use 3 of them but thats only for one plant so i dont no if the watt/lumen per square foot is per plant or what but i wanted to get 5 seeds to sex then keep the females(depending on how many females i get) if i get only one i was going to keep 1 male and pollinate it so i would have seeds and bud at the same time but i didnt no if 3 26w cfls would be ok for 3 full grown plants (MAX)

as for pots i was going to try and get a more horizontal pot for better hight but the best thing i could find was 3 pots (so far im going to look tonight for more) ones a salad tupperware u know the cheap salads fom groucey stores? its like a bowl but bigger and more diamiter at the top
another one is a specialized metal pot not sure what type but it always stays cold like if u put it under a blanket or out in the sun in 2 hours itll be cold still its wierd i dont no if that oot would be good but its really vertical almost like a drinking glass but a i bigger in diamiter
the last one was a tupperware in the same shape as the metal pot thingy are these any good ? ill add pictures of the one i think will be the best with pictures and something to show as a scale ill post back soon

Tha Dope man187 said:

as for pots i was going to try and get a more horizontal pot for better hight but the best thing i could find was 3 pots (so far im going to look tonight for more) ones a salad tupperware u know the cheap salads fom groucey stores? its like a bowl but bigger and more diamiter at the top
another one is a specialized metal pot not sure what type but it always stays cold like if u put it under a blanket or out in the sun in 2 hours itll be cold still its wierd i dont no if that oot would be good but its really vertical almost like a drinking glass but a i bigger in diamiter
the last one was a tupperware in the same shape as the metal pot thingy are these any good ? ill add pictures of the one i think will be the best with pictures and something to show as a scale ill post back soon

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funny you should mention pots, that's pretty much what i'm doing, just bought some 9 cup plastic ziploc containers - should fit the case space just right, so i'm using pretty much what your planning on

on the 3 cfls for 3 plants, yeah, you're going to need more than 3 cfls - your space looks like 2 plants would be best - not sure what your dimensions are

well i have a essay due tomorrow so i didnt really do much and i ran out of tape for now(N) but all i need now is one side of the dresser needs white paper and then i just need to set up the lights but i still need to buy the soil, timer, and bulbs and i dont have any light sockets only one