Tap Water

Evil Buddies

Ganja King
If you use tapwater in my opinion its not an organic grow as there are many chemicals in our tap water chlorine fluoride etc.

I myself use aqua pura mineral water are there any people that say there doing an organic grow but using tapwater?

Evil
 

Jerry Garcia

Well-Known Member
If you use tapwater in my opinion its not an organic grow as there are many chemicals in our tap water chlorine fluoride etc.

I myself use aqua pura mineral water are there any people that say there doing an organic grow but using tapwater?

Evil
What's up Evil?

I use brita filtered tap water...and my water has the dreaded Chloramine...and it seems to do fine.

I'm also not too concerned about being considered "100% organic" with my grow. I use liquid organic fertilizers, I mix in guano and castings to my organic soils, and now I add some mycorrhizae. If my filtered water still has chemicals in it there isn't much I can do about it. I'll get an RO at some point, but for now my little brita faucet filter works great.

I also use Botanicare Cal-Mag+, which probably isn't organic but doesn't seem to harm any of my helpful bacteria...
 

Evil Buddies

Ganja King
I'm good ty jerry just waiting to set up for my next grow its so hard seeing everyone growing on here and im not doing anything. In my new place i aint got any cupboard space thinking of growing in my front room, just partition off a corner and and set it up.

Yeah using the brita water filter will help a lot to get rid of the chemicals and the limescale. I thought about using the mycorrhizae funghi myself i will defiantely get some for my next grow.

Hows that chiesel coming along jerry its looks so lovely ur grows just seem to get better and better catch up soon mate.


Evil
 

connorbrown

Well-Known Member
I use rain water. Can get much more organic or natural then that. Lol. Of course its boiled down to kill bugs and stuff but you get the idea. :)
 

fatfarmer

Active Member
:eyesmoke:it is me, i use rain water ,so far girls are sweet and fat. been lot of rain ,but spring grow i will have to change water because all the crap in air. thinking of lake water? what say?:peace:
 

Wetdog

Well-Known Member
What's up Evil?

I use brita filtered tap water...and my water has the dreaded Chloramine...and it seems to do fine.

I'm also not too concerned about being considered "100% organic" with my grow. I use liquid organic fertilizers, I mix in guano and castings to my organic soils, and now I add some mycorrhizae. If my filtered water still has chemicals in it there isn't much I can do about it. I'll get an RO at some point, but for now my little brita faucet filter works great.

I also use Botanicare Cal-Mag+, which probably isn't organic but doesn't seem to harm any of my helpful bacteria...
Same here. I do as organic as I can, but there does come a point where it becomes anal and just plain silly, not to mention expensive.

I use filtered tap water also.

Wet
 

MrBaker

Well-Known Member
My rules on organic are also sort of loose. I use tap water and either let it sit for a day, or I use DeChlor (which in itself is a chemical). I figure if it makes water easier for fish to live in, that's good enough.
 

jjfoo

Active Member
If you use tapwater in my opinion its not an organic grow as there are many chemicals in our tap water chlorine fluoride etc.

I myself use aqua pura mineral water are there any people that say there doing an organic grow but using tapwater?

Evil
The minerals in your 'aquapure' water are inorganic the same as spring water or tap water...

With this logic you would have to call a grow that uses water 'not organic' as you put it.

Are you aware that H2O (water) is an inorganic chemical? Perlite is inorganic. I think you are missing something about what organic growing actually means. Plants will absorb *salt* in your organic environment, you just don't add it directly but rather it is liberated from the organic matter from microbial activity.

Many of the minerals we need to live as humans are made into organic molecules through plants so we can absorb them. This is a part of life, there is organic and inorganic chemistry happen in nature all the time.
 

Jerry Garcia

Well-Known Member
I'm good ty jerry just waiting to set up for my next grow its so hard seeing everyone growing on here and im not doing anything. In my new place i aint got any cupboard space thinking of growing in my front room, just partition off a corner and and set it up.

Yeah using the brita water filter will help a lot to get rid of the chemicals and the limescale. I thought about using the mycorrhizae funghi myself i will defiantely get some for my next grow.

Hows that chiesel coming along jerry its looks so lovely ur grows just seem to get better and better catch up soon mate.


Evil
Yeah the brita seems to do fine. I'm not sure if it removes the chloramine, it came with a pamphlet that says what it removes but I threw it away. I know it did a few types of chlorine. Only lasts 100 gallons though, which goes by surprisingly fast...

The Chiesel is doing awesome. Leaves are starting to turn a nice dark purple. I already smoked what I had from the last harvest...it was great, but I think this next round will be better. My plants always seem to be better when grown out from clone...

Get yourself a grow tent or something if you've got the funds for it...
 

ballaboyee21

Well-Known Member
The minerals in your 'aquapure' water are inorganic the same as spring water or tap water...

With this logic you would have to call a grow that uses water 'not organic' as you put it.

Are you aware that H2O (water) is an inorganic chemical? Perlite is inorganic. I think you are missing something about what organic growing actually means. Plants will absorb *salt* in your organic environment, you just don't add it directly but rather it is liberated from the organic matter from microbial activity.

Many of the minerals we need to live as humans are made into organic molecules through plants so we can absorb them. This is a part of life, there is organic and inorganic chemistry happen in nature all the time.
I agree. But this time I used tap water straight up. Not a good idea I don't think. I don't think it would have mattered if I would have flushed with some distilled water or RO water, because essentially all the nutrients people use are "chemical" and they just flush it out with pure H20. but it was my first time, hell, and I still got some decent good lookin chronic to smoke :eyesmoke:. Things will b different next time tho.
 

Nullis

Moderator
If you want to filter your tap water the best you possibly can without putting down for an RO system, I would recommend a Zero-Water pitcher system. These cost a bit more than Brita or Pur, and the filters do as well, but it is a 5-stage filtration system and it removes EVERYTHING from the water (Brita is just activated charcoal with ion-exchange resin). They include a TDS meter with the system so you can check when you need to replace the filter. The filtered water does come out at 0 ppm.

If your tap water really isn't all that bad and it is just the chlorine\chloramines you're concerned with the filters will last quite a while. The more total dissolved solids you have in your tap water in the first place, the shorter the life of the filter will be. I think each filter can absorb something like 5 grams of solids before it needs replacing. The downside to the pitcher is that filtration is kinda slow, and of course you're limited by the container. I would just fill the pitcher throughout the day and pour the filtered water into another receptacle for storage.

Now I mainly use rain-water, filtered through a nylon stocking, sock, and/or coffee filter. Often times I get really clean rain water with no noticeable particulate. Some times I notice pollen in the collected water. I imagine micron-cloth would be perfect for filtering the rain water, or cold-water hash bags even (Bubble-Bags). Remember boiling water also removes any oxygen dissolved in it, which our plant roots need. If you want to sterilize your rain water by boiling I would highly recommend aerating it afterwards.
 

Vindicated

Well-Known Member
Has anyone here actually looked to see what's in their tap water? If your living in the United States your local water company should be able to provide you with a free annual water report. It'll tell you if there is any arsenic, iron, nitrates, and a dozen other things. Did you know they even test radiation levels? Its all there. Sorry if your in a third-world, but if your in the USA I'm betting your tap water is fine. If not, the report will tell you.

Oh and yes mine had Fluoride in the water, but it was detected at 0.2 parts per million. When I feed cannabis the total dissolved content could be as high as 1,800 ppm. A 0.2 ppm is nothing. The water companies also test for boron, something that the reverse osmosis process doesn't remove and that heavy rain water can wash away. So regardless of what you 'think' of your local tap water, check out your report. Its free and most water companies make them available their websites.
 

Da Almighty Jew

Well-Known Member
Has anyone here actually looked to see what's in their tap water? If your living in the United States your local water company should be able to provide you with a free annual water report. It'll tell you if there is any arsenic, iron, nitrates, and a dozen other things. Did you know they even test radiation levels? Its all there. Sorry if your in a third-world, but if your in the USA I'm betting your tap water is fine. If not, the report will tell you.

Oh and yes mine had Fluoride in the water, but it was detected at 0.2 parts per million. When I feed cannabis the total dissolved content could be as high as 1,800 ppm. A 0.2 ppm is nothing. The water companies also test for boron, something that the reverse osmosis process doesn't remove and that heavy rain water can wash away. So regardless of what you 'think' of your local tap water, check out your report. Its free and most water companies make them available their websites.
I agree tap water can be fantastic in some areas. And i am not going to freak out and start boiling and aerating my rain water lol. although that might be a better water source
 
How can a grow be organic of using chemicals, organic 'chemicals' my foot.
The ignorance of some people is absolutely astounding. I've been listening to this argument off and on for DECADES.:wall:

If you are so against using chemicals, organic or not, than perhaps you should no longer use or grow cannabis, as THC is an organic CHEMICAL.
Let me make myself clear- The only reason you like cannabis is because of the ORGANIC CHEMICALS it contains.

I generally read this and other related forums but do not post, but the ignorance of this statement really irks me and brought me out of my shell today. Just because a chemical is a chemical does not mean it is unsafe and unwanted.

Yeah I know -- I have a Super Low post count.. so if that matters to you don't bother reading what my 18+ years of chemistry, aquaculture and bioremediation experience has taught me.

Organic chemicals are found in nature, including in your own body. If a "chemical" contains a Carbon atom, it is considered to be "organic".

Have any growers out there ever used sugar or molasses? Or made a compost tea to water your garden with? Yep you guessed it- Organic chemistry at its best.

Let's go the other way now-- Inorganic. Does anybody use dolomite lime as a buffer in their soil? That is about as inorganic as it gets. Anybody use Bat guano as a soil amendment? Yep more chemicals! In fact we use bat guano as fertilizer because of the abundance of organic AND inorganic chemicals and compounds it contains that our plants need.

This is almost as silly as the people that refuse to use cloning gels/powders because of the chemicals they contain, but would prefer to make a tea out of willow bark, which is really just an extraction process for a chemical known as Salicylic acid. The same tree gives us another common chemical that we call Aspirin.

My point is that an ignorant grower will not produce top quality meds when compared to a more educated grower regardless of the organic vs inorganic debate. Personal preference of organic versus inorganic aside, the ignorance of such an important aspect of cannabis horticulture is surely a sign that the grower may be ignorant of other important subjects relating to this plant.

I hope my examples shed some light on the reality of organic chemistry. Do not be afraid just because something is a chemical, instead, you should be encouraged to do research and learn which chemicals you can and cannot use.

The only caveat to my above statements is that when using chemicals, it is a good idea to find out what the source is. For example, there are chemicals used in many nutrient solutions that may be considered organic chemicals, but were in fact made in a lab, as opposed to mined or extracted from natural sources. A good example of this would be one of the common organic chemicals used in Ph adjustments in both aquaculture and horticulture- Sodium Carbonate, also called soda ash because historically it was extracted from ashes. But it can also be made in a laboratory. Know where your chemicals come from. Just don't dismiss something because it is a "chemical".

I could go on for several pages citing examples, but I think my point has been made.

Knowledge is power. Always has been, always will be.

If you distrust chemicals that much perhaps you should petition your government to ban a common yet deadly inorganic chemical called Dihydrogen Monoxide. It is found in everything from industrial runoff to cosmetics. It causes corrosion and oxidation. It is found in everything from cancerous tumors to your morning cup of coffee. It is even found in your cannabis garden. http://www.dhmo.org/
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

Well-Known Member
Tap is fine. I do organic tea's with tap water(left ou 48hrs) n i do fine. I also have been using tap on my lwn, which is also organic.
 
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