Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

lordjin

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Day 1

Day 18

This is how we make multiple colas starting at an early age. I hope you're taking careful notes, class.

My box is a veritable clone regenerating engine. Don't try this at home, kids. I'm a trained professional.

Edit:
Count 'em. Two plants. Starting from two tiny clones knee high to a gnat... and the goal is nothing short of greatness. Are you with me? Can you feel the power? Come on, put your hands together now and sang! Make that OG yield! Yield, bitch! That's right... Cheezy? I know you're with me on this one.
 

daveroller

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Fishbones are beautiful. This is P2. Doesn't that look like an icicle to you? OOps! Said it again, Dave.
That title is my Sgt. Schultz impression from Hogan's Heroes (or something like that).

Hey, I ate 4 of my special cookies tonight while recuperating here in the hospital and am feeling a little funny, in a very good way.

Anyway, about the icicle issue... I was holding back before because it wasn't germane to your grow, but here goes. Icicles never branch out at an angle from each other like these fishbone shapes do. That's simply because gravity pulls down on icicles in exactly the same direction while they're growing. So adjacent icicles always grow parallel to each other. So your roots do not look very much like icicles to the trained eye.

Just thought I'd help you out there, Jin man.

Have a good day.

:-D
 

lordjin

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That title is my Sgt. Schultz impression from Hogan's Heroes (or something like that).

Hey, I ate 4 of my special cookies tonight while recuperating here in the hospital and am feeling a little funny, in a very good way.

Anyway, about the icicle issue... I was holding back before because it wasn't germane to your grow, but here goes. Icicles never branch out at an angle from each other like these fishbone shapes do. That's simply because gravity pulls down on icicles in exactly the same direction while they're growing. So adjacent icicles always grow parallel to each other. So your roots do not look very much like icicles to the trained eye.

Just thought I'd help you out there, Jin man.

Have a good day.

:-D
Aw, you're no fun.
 

lordjin

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Right on... When do you up it? As they get bigger, or you got a AN chart?
I'm just going by AN's online non ph perfect weekly calculator. It's a very precise base, but I always end up zeroing in on the ppm based on how the plants behave. This is very easy to do with my auto topper as a diluting mechanism.
 

C.Indica

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Lordjin;
The lower nodes aren't stimulated simply because they're recieving more light.
You forgot to add in Apical Dominance/Auxin Distribution.
Right now all those nodes are recieving the same amount of hormones (Chemical) AND are recieving more light (Mechanical)
Which is a combination of why they branch out during LST.

Just keep in mind, the plant's helping you too.
Looks great, really noticed them broaden, can't wait to see them weeks from now.
 

C.Indica

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Lookin' good. Which strain are we looking at?
Lemon Skunk,
a pheno my friends been growing for years.
Stoked that it's mine now,
this is almost week 7.
Super Sativa dominant, heavy yield, indica flowering time.
I kept it super short too.

Can't wait to see end-season shots.
 

lordjin

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Auto topper? No idea what that is.
You see the white device next to my ph probe in my tub interior shots? That's a little bobber that activates a pump I have set in an external res when the water level drops even slightly.

lookin really healthy jin...
cant wait to see more ...
Thanks. Checked on them this morning and P1 pulled her tape up.

Lordjin;
The lower nodes aren't stimulated simply because they're recieving more light.
You forgot to add in Apical Dominance/Auxin Distribution.
Right now all those nodes are recieving the same amount of hormones (Chemical) AND are recieving more light (Mechanical)
Which is a combination of why they branch out during LST.

Just keep in mind, the plant's helping you too.
Looks great, really noticed them broaden, can't wait to see them weeks from now.
That's what I love about this place. Just when I think I'm king geek, someone reminds me that I'm just another geek.

Lemon Skunk,
a pheno my friends been growing for years.
Stoked that it's mine now,
this is almost week 7.
Super Sativa dominant, heavy yield, indica flowering time.
I kept it super short too.

Can't wait to see end-season shots.
Of course. Lemon Skunk. How can a Skunk be Lemony? Or a Lemon Skunky? Only in the world of pot.
 

lordjin

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Get with the times, Holder!

Marijuana Prohibition's Legal Insanity Continues

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/obama-marijuana-policy_b_1004227.html


Two choice segments from the article:

As Tom Angell, media spokesman for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition put it:
The administration clearly understood the political value in being perceived as pro-medical marijuana when they put out the October 2009 memo on respecting states' rights to enact these laws. They even leaked it to the Associated Press on a Sunday night to ensure maximum exposure. I really don't know what is behind the reversal of late. Perhaps it's a case of career drug war zealots in the Department of Justice undermining a boss who is too busy to concern himself with medical marijuana issues. In any case, this isn't going to play well politically for the administration in a contentious re-election fight at a time when 80 percent of Americans support medical marijuana. If the president knows what's good for him, he'll put a stop to the federal interference in states with medical marijuana laws.

And from the author Chris Weigant:

This Drug War insanity occasionally crosses over into laughable irony. Also in the marijuana news from the past few weeks was the story of a 72-year-old woman in a car (as a passenger) who was pulled over by the cops in Oregon. The police found marijuana on the woman, but they had to let her go. The reason? She could prove she is one of the remaining four people who get their marijuana directly from the federal government -- as medicine. She has glaucoma, and she qualified under an extremely narrow loophole (only a dozen or so people ever qualified for this program) in federal drug law which reaches back to the 1970s. She receives federal marijuana to treat her illness, and she brags about how well it works: "They won't acknowledge the fact that I do not have even one aspirin in this house." So the federal government legally provides medical marijuana to her and three others (100 pounds of it, since 2005), while at the same time insisting that marijuana has "no currently accepted medical use," and while threatening to treat state and local governmental officials as the worst criminals possible for trying to unravel this massive federal legal doublethink. If the Department of Justice's legal reasoning is correct -- anyone facilitating such activities as distributing marijuana should be federally prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law -- then the entire federal government is a drug trafficker, too.

Edit:

And how could I forget the powerful closing statement by the author?

The ultimate irony is that Barack Obama has admitted he used marijuana himself, back in the day. The question I keep hoping some intrepid reporter will ask him is: "Mister President, if you had been caught for your illegal drug use and prosecuted the same way your own Justice Department is now trying to prosecute medical marijuana providers, how would your life have turned out differently? If you had been forced to 'pay for your crime' back then, do you think it would have improved your life, or changed it radically for the worse?" And a followup question, as well: "Then how can you justify what Eric Holder is currently doing?"
 

Hobgoblit

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The ultimate irony is that Barack Obama has admitted he used marijuana himself, back in the day. The question I keep hoping some intrepid reporter will ask him is: "Mister President, if you had been caught for your illegal drug use and prosecuted the same way your own Justice Department is now trying to prosecute medical marijuana providers, how would your life have turned out differently? If you had been forced to 'pay for your crime' back then, do you think it would have improved your life, or changed it radically for the worse?" And a followup question, as well: "Then how can you justify what Eric Holder is currently doing?"
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The government has it's fingers all in the drug trade in this country. When you have the freedom to use and cultivate, you take money out of their pockets, and spread the interest to others. They will fight us till the end, but will lose eventually. Don't know if you remember the Iran/Contra affair, but it's a prime example of the government and drugs. Money and interests, all it is...You can say the same thing about the prison system...
 

mensabarbie

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I'm not worried. I have my paperwork in order to grow for me and my friend. our prescriptions are current. I have an LA County Card. I'm under the # limit. I'm not shipping to NY or crossing state lines. They are after for-profit grows as well as storefront dispensaries near schools. read between the lines, people. they cannot get you if you dot your I's and cross your T's.
 

lordjin

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The government has it's fingers all in the drug trade in this country. When you have the freedom to use and cultivate, you take money out of their pockets, and spread the interest to others. They will fight us till the end, but will lose eventually. Don't know if you remember the Iran/Contra affair, but it's a prime example of the government and drugs. Money and interests, all it is...You can say the same thing about the prison system...
oh yeah, and when it comes to Anti-MMJ, it ain't just the drug companies' interests that are being protected. The war on drugs is also leveraged hugely by the alcohol and tobacco industries in the form of huge campaign contributions. So it's a trilateral front: Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, and Big Booze. These guys basically own our country in addition to the petroleum giants. All stacked up against Joe, the hippy pot guy. I don't mind those odds. Hell, what the hell else are we gonna do but fight it? -- with joint in mouth, of course.
 

lordjin

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I'm not worried. I have my paperwork in order to grow for me and my friend. our prescriptions are current. I have an LA County Card. I'm under the # limit. I'm not shipping to NY or crossing state lines. They are after for-profit grows as well as storefront dispensaries near schools. read between the lines, people. they cannot get you if you dot your I's and cross your T's.
That makes me feel better, but these guys are still assholes. They should get their shit together already. Holder has the power to move marijuana into the class 2 category where it belongs. That would change the entire MMJ scene for the better... Crime rates would fall as illegal drug-dealers become increasingly a thing of the past.

What bugs the shit out of me is that Barack and Eric both know this full well. These aren't stupid men. So why? It doesn't help Barack in the coming election because 80 percent of American voters are either for or do not oppose medical marijuana.
 

lordjin

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Day 17

Day 19 - As the fan leaves put on size, their shadows protect the underside of the tub lid from algae. I'm using hygrozyme this time too, so shouldn't see problems.

These are growing... I don't know if slower is quite the right word, but they're not growing as crazy as my prior grows... so far. I think there might be something more of a re-veg process with this particular cut (you did mention that now that I recall, Cheeze). I think I may have to go beyond my usual 28 days for these girls. But we'll see.

I actually think this 'gentler vegetative growth' I'm seeing is a very good sign. The Platinum OG just exploded from a tiny clone into a wild bush with huge leaves at a very unnatural rate. That's the plant that exploded out of my control during flower. These here are putting on good growth every two days as you can tell, but that Platinum was a different story altogether. I think these might be just a little easier to control during flower. Hope I'm not jinxing anything.

Below:
Still bright and lovely. Adding more steadily.
P1 - Lookit them fishbones go. Notice how my strands don't thicken up so quick, and instead fishbone like crazy and multipy thin strands? That's easily attributable, again, not to under 5 micron bursts of air pressure driven mist, but to 45 liters per minute of oxygen being pumped into only ten gallons of spray water. Do the math. Let's see, that breaks down to roughly... a lot. Is it safe to call this 'bubbleponics' you think?

P2

Hey, sorry if this is boring some of you. I just want the most complete journal on the block. Could this be what they mean when they say "fine white hairs of aeroponics roots?" I guess I'll never know.

It's the oxygen, stupid.
 

lordjin

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Now we're getting to the nitty gritty of the details I couldn't show you last time. Here's an interesting angle on P1. Just look at that branch development. See if you can count how many colas I have so far. I think it's safe to say that the lowest branch has pretty much grown into a separate plant already? That would make an amazing clone right there. Oh what I could do if I converted this box into a mother house and just cut clones all day for free for all of you.

I can conceivably keep going, continuing to tie it down, keeping it super low. Depends on how greedy I get I suppose.

I think it's just about time for the second tie down. I'll do it tomorrow.
 
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