Tactics Employed by the Democratic Establishment

ttystikk

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I used to be a card carrying Libertarian Party member. Years and years ago. When most didnt know of them. But this isnt 1776 anymore. And I....anyways. Yep. I kinda still do like Johnson. I remember his High Times interview years ago. He ahright. At least vote third party I say. Iam with Sanders myself. But at anyrate...prostitution is a no brainer. Should be legal and regulated. All drugs as well. Obvious. But dems and repubs i dont think want a revolution at all. They want the status quo. The money train to keep chugging along. I say if you want real change...support the Progressives.
Until they're dragged kicking and screaming off the corporate and donor SuperPAC money tit, both the Republican and the Democratic Party establishment
WILL.NOT.GIVE.ONE.SINGLE.FUCK
about the middle class or anyone else. It's so obvious that it goes undiscussed and unreported.

Speaking of reporting, it's also shockingly obvious to anyone who pays attention to the news that the half dozen major media outlets lie by omission on a constant basis. They don't change the truth, they just don't report it. This I have seen with my own eyes.
 

tampee

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I used to be a card carrying Libertarian Party member. Years and years ago. When most didnt know of them. But this isnt 1776 anymore. And I....anyways. Yep. I kinda still do like Johnson. I remember his High Times interview years ago. He ahright. At least vote third party I say. Iam with Sanders myself. But at anyrate...prostitution is a no brainer. Should be legal and regulated. All drugs as well. Obvious. But dems and repubs i dont think want a revolution at all. They want the status quo. The money train to keep chugging along. I say if you want real change...support the Progressives.
Sounds good and all but I don't like Sanders other than his views on marijuana Ron Paul kicks his ass all the way.
 

Fogdog

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Until they're dragged kicking and screaming off the corporate and donor SuperPAC money tit, both the Republican and the Democratic Party establishment
WILL.NOT.GIVE.ONE.SINGLE.FUCK
about the middle class or anyone else. It's so obvious that it goes undiscussed and unreported.

Speaking of reporting, it's also shockingly obvious to anyone who pays attention to the news that the half dozen major media outlets lie by omission on a constant basis. They don't change the truth, they just don't report it. This I have seen with my own eyes.
Oh Hi

I'm wondering if you could please explain how not talking about racism will fix some of the problems we have in this country regarding racism.

Also, your post is naive.
 

Fogdog

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I used to be a card carrying Libertarian Party member. Years and years ago. When most didnt know of them. But this isnt 1776 anymore. And I....anyways. Yep. I kinda still do like Johnson. I remember his High Times interview years ago. He ahright. At least vote third party I say. Iam with Sanders myself. But at anyrate...prostitution is a no brainer. Should be legal and regulated. All drugs as well. Obvious. But dems and repubs i dont think want a revolution at all. They want the status quo. The money train to keep chugging along. I say if you want real change...support the Progressives.
Every Democratic Party Senator supported Sander's bill in 2014 to repeal the Citizen's United decision. Every Republican Senator opposed it. Democrats are not the reason campaign finance reform hasn't already happened.

If the campaign financing the system is to be reformed within the next few years, it will have to be through the Democratic Party. A third party is fine too. I'll look at all alternatives to Trump and the GOP congress. But not willing to wait a decade while a third party gets it's act together.

This is where one of our Sandernistas make the false claim that Democrats don't support campaign finance reform.
 

Padawanbater2

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I'm wondering if you could please explain how not talking about racism will fix some of the problems we have in this country regarding racism.
Yet another strawman..

Nobody said "don't talk about racism". Literally what we've said is "Yes, racism is a very important issue, and not just the blatant, overt racism in society, but the systemic, economic, legal aspects of racism, too.". That it's important to address each of these in order to limit it. I think what people like you do actually exacerbates racism. One key element of racism is poverty. Raising wages, providing free child care, etc. are economic solutions that would actually help fix the problem. Setting up civilian review boards like there are in other countries to bring charges and convictions on police officers who commit crimes is a way to help solve the systemic racism minorities face.

We said "Just talking about it, like you want to do, isn't enough.". Talk is cheap. Action's expensive.


You should try facing our actual arguments head on instead of relying on strawmen
 

ttystikk

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Yet another strawman..

Nobody said "don't talk about racism". Literally what we've said is "Yes, racism is a very important issue, and not just the blatant, overt racism in society, but the systemic, economic, legal aspects of racism, too.". That it's important to address each of these in order to limit it. I think what people like you do actually exacerbates racism. One key element of racism is poverty. Raising wages, providing free child care, etc. are economic solutions that would actually help fix the problem. Setting up civilian review boards like there are in other countries to bring charges and convictions on police officers who commit crimes is a way to help solve the systemic racism minorities face.

We said "Just talking about it, like you want to do, isn't enough.". Talk is cheap. Action's expensive.


You should try facing our actual arguments head on instead of relying on strawmen
That's because they can't refute our ACTUAL arguments, lol
 

UncleBuck

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I actually voted for Johnson and I'm pretty much libertarian but the left wing looks worse than the right wing IMHO.

I just want our whorehouses, opium dens and cannabis coffee shops back honestly but the Democrats and Republicans want a revolution.
Johnson wanted private prisons for pot users, so forget about your opium dens and pedophilia rings.

Now call me a kike again, little guy
 

UncleBuck

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Yet another strawman..

Nobody said "don't talk about racism". Literally what we've said is "Yes, racism is a very important issue, and not just the blatant, overt racism in society, but the systemic, economic, legal aspects of racism, too.". That it's important to address each of these in order to limit it. I think what people like you do actually exacerbates racism. One key element of racism is poverty. Raising wages, providing free child care, etc. are economic solutions that would actually help fix the problem. Setting up civilian review boards like there are in other countries to bring charges and convictions on police officers who commit crimes is a way to help solve the systemic racism minorities face.

We said "Just talking about it, like you want to do, isn't enough.". Talk is cheap. Action's expensive.


You should try facing our actual arguments head on instead of relying on strawmen
That's because they can't refute our ACTUAL arguments, lol
You are aware we can read your exact words in his sig, right?
 

ArcticGranite

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Prosecution rests in the Menendez trial.

Will he be able to retain his seat if he's convicted?

Meanwhile in the news... crickets
 

UncleBuck

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Prosecution rests in the Menendez trial.

Will he be able to retain his seat if he's convicted?

Meanwhile in the news... crickets
hard to get to that while covering the extent to which a deranged mental deficient is allowing puerto rico to languish and die.
 

Fogdog

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Yet another strawman..

Nobody said "don't talk about racism". Literally what we've said is "Yes, racism is a very important issue, and not just the blatant, overt racism in society, but the systemic, economic, legal aspects of racism, too.". That it's important to address each of these in order to limit it. I think what people like you do actually exacerbates racism. One key element of racism is poverty. Raising wages, providing free child care, etc. are economic solutions that would actually help fix the problem. Setting up civilian review boards like there are in other countries to bring charges and convictions on police officers who commit crimes is a way to help solve the systemic racism minorities face.

We said "Just talking about it, like you want to do, isn't enough.". Talk is cheap. Action's expensive.


You should try facing our actual arguments head on instead of relying on strawmen
What argument are you talking about?

You and tty keep running away from people who literally quote your own words.

Pad or @ttystikk , What does this even mean?

"I think that if everyone quit talking about race, part of the problem would be solved."
 

UncleBuck

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What argument are you talking about?

You and tty keep running away from people who literally quote your own words.

Pad or @ttystikk , What does this even mean?

"I think that if everyone quit talking about race, part of the problem would be solved."
what is it with people making statements that they are too cowardly to stand behind?

marwan the holocaust denier and chemphlegm the nazi do the exact same thing.

so does spaghetti noodle, won't even attempt to address the fact that he is either a complete dumbfuck or a nazi for posting that vile neo-nazi imagery of the stereotypcalized jew.
 

chemphlegm

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what is it with people making statements that they are too cowardly to stand behind?

marwan the holocaust denier and chemphlegm the nazi do the exact same thing.

so does spaghetti noodle, won't even attempt to address the fact that he is either a complete dumbfuck or a nazi for posting that vile neo-nazi imagery of the stereotypcalized jew.
hands down THE most vile poster on RIU is @ UncleBuck
 

Fogdog

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what is it with people making statements that they are too cowardly to stand behind?

marwan the holocaust denier and chemphlegm the nazi do the exact same thing.

so does spaghetti noodle, won't even attempt to address the fact that he is either a complete dumbfuck or a nazi for posting that vile neo-nazi imagery of the stereotypcalized jew.
strawman and out of context. These are what tty has said direct quotes from him are. I just think he's unable to read. And think.

spaghetti noodle is brain damaged, so I just chalk him up to a disability. Also ignore.

@MarWan is a bright kid who got a bad education. I'm curious if his interactions here help him get past that.

chemphlegm and you are your own thing.

But, yeah, they all have trouble explaining themselves when they are directly quoted and asked what they mean. I put it down to cowardice and the need to be right all the time.
 

chemphlegm

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not even a decent attempt at lying. you realize i can just quote what ou said, right?
sure, do it, perma the quote even if its tasty to you.
your combative stance prohibits your ability to
comprehend, no worries, you are dumb, your kids are mixed raced
and that pisses you off we know.
 

UncleBuck

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sure, do it, perma the quote even if its tasty to you.
your combative stance prohibits your ability to
comprehend, no worries, you are dumb, your kids are mixed raced
and that pisses you off we know.
i thought you were done already. guess you're too upset.
 

chemphlegm

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What is up with people feeling the need to accuse everyone of being a racist often out of context?
Turrets maybe?
 
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