T 5 from Start to Finish

pr0fesseur said:

Check out my sig MY lights are there...Click MY GROW to see my link

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Where do you buy your bulbs? I didn't know there were so many choices.

Beansly said:

Where do you buy your bulbs? I didn't know there were so many choices.

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Theres plenty of places to get these bulbs both locally and online...
Check out MY GROW in my sig and you will find all your answers there.. i dont want to hijack anyones thread..
Im pioneering a method that i think a large number of growers will adopt...

Looks like your gals need some N and maybe some potassium! Other than that looks great bro!

I think T5's are gods gift to the true personal medical grower. Low power, low cost, moderate yield, good quality. No you arnt going to get lbs. If you are not greedy and you are looking for good personal stuff then this is the clear winner suck it LED's

true, for the average toker, t5 are probably enough. (or even cfls, but t5 are really better, less wasted light but dont fit every situation)

many people grow though because they cant afford all the smoke they need (medicinal grows(course they enjoy the shit out of their cannabis too, just it becomes a bit more necessary for a happy life ))
and there it would be smarter to grow with hps (more yield in the same space)
course then ya got to deal with loud fans lol. but hey, better than being without smoke.

subbed looks an interesting thread with nice buds...

sso said:

true, for the average toker, t5 are probably enough. (or even cfls, but t5 are really better, less wasted light but dont fit every situation)

many people grow though because they cant afford all the smoke they need (medicinal grows(course they enjoy the shit out of their cannabis too, just it becomes a bit more necessary for a happy life ))
and there it would be smarter to grow with hps (more yield in the same space)
course then ya got to deal with loud fans lol. but hey, better than being without smoke.

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Isnt it true that the better quality the light and the more like sunlight that you can provide you will in turn yeild better bigger crops?
If this is true w/w of my light in my unique combination will provide a larger more productive crop. I understand in some circumstances my setup will not work.. BUT in a majority of them it is in every way superior to any HPS watt for watt.. $ for $ check my thread theres REAL research involved.

Its not a new thing that t-5s are more efficient. I use them for veg and love it. I have to ask what are you comparing you setup to as in hps? 1000w?

TheOrganic said:

Its not a new thing that t-5s are more efficient. I use them for veg and love it. I have to ask what are you comparing you setup to as in hps? 1000w?

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No comparison...
Im not trying to make claims of one.. what i am trying to do with scientific method is prove that my method is not only more efficient but the light i am using produces faster healthier plant growth..AND is closer to sunlight than any HPS/MH
My thread uses only fact and science.. no conjecture no miracle claims.. but scientific method straight through.
By using tech that is misunderstood and overlooked i can produce faster growing healthier plants with LESS light and LESS heat..
laws of physics demand that the closer the light the higher concentration of photons actually hit the leaves. Plus the lights that i use have a higher photonic energy. They also more closely match the PAR curve of plants which almost all HPS/MH lack. pure science proven not by me but by published referenced papers i provide.

Come see for yourself and tell me what you think.!

pr0fesseur said:

Isnt it true that the better quality the light and the more like sunlight that you can provide you will in turn yeild better bigger crops?
If this is true w/w of my light in my unique combination will provide a larger more productive crop. I understand in some circumstances my setup will not work.. BUT in a majority of them it is in every way superior to any HPS watt for watt.. $ for $ check my thread theres REAL research involved.

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T-5 better out preform a HPS?? that dosent seem to jive very well at all

FootClan said:

T-5 better out preform a HPS?? that dosent seem to jive very well at all

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I lay out the facts and science behind what i propose read my thread and decide for yourself... HID is mainly propaganda driven,, i back all my research with FACTS.... I make no conclusions besides the ones i can back by research...
Read about the Inverse Square Law... now imagine my lights 3" from the plant and yours 1' inverse square law DEMANDS that your plants will receive 50% of that light from your Hid @ 1' and 25% of the light at 2' so having your bulb 1' from the plant and i mean the actual light source not the glass bulb surrounding it you loose 50% of that light...
Thats scientific LAW..not propaganda...

pr0fesseur said:

I lay out the facts and science behind what i propose read my thread and decide for yourself... HID is mainly propaganda driven,, i back all my research with FACTS.... I make no conclusions besides the ones i can back by research...
Read about the Inverse Square Law... now imagine my lights 3" from the plant and yours 1' inverse square law DEMANDS that your plants will receive 50% of that light from your Hid @ 1' and 25% of the light at 2' so having your bulb 1' from the plant and i mean the actual light source not the glass bulb surrounding it you loose 50% of that light...
Thats scientific LAW..not propaganda...

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ya i know that light decreases exponentailly...... First off your T5 is not going to penetrate down like a HID light will so right off if your growing anything taller then 2-3 feet you arent getting penetration....... second how come everyone i know and every single grow ive ever seen wether it inperson our on youtube or in a thread how come EVERY SINGLE t-5 dosent come out as dense or as much weight as a HID light?? How come at my work we have 60 plants flowering under a gang of T-5(Owner too cheap to use real lights) and all the plants are spizzly small pop corn buts no real weight..... on averae i yield more in my apartment with 2 1000w lights then we do at work with 6 t-5s and about double the plants numbers yet i still come out ontop everytime.... My buddy grows in a shed in his backyard uses all t-5s and yet his yield is always smaller with fluffy buds.......like i said im not trying to be bias im just basing it of EVERY single grow book ive read im basin it off everysingle grow ive grown every sinle grow ive seen on line and in pictures or in person.... what your saying goes agaisnt everything i know and seen and beleive.....

You take a 1000w of t-5 and ill take 1000w hps and same condtions same nutes same atmpsher same everything and ill willing to bet i can yield more weight and denser buds with a 1000w hid verse a 1000w's of t5s

humm, i know you guys like your t5´s and all and yes they are great.
ive tried ho t5´s... (49w to be fair) 4x49w (4300 lm) that i added lots of cfls to and later 150w hps´s.
they grow fine plants, just not if you compare them to f.e 400w mh and t5 vegged plants look pathetic compared to f.e 600w hps vegged plants.

can you grow good shit with t5´s? yes. they are fine for small grows where hps does not fit, space or heatvise (or noisevise)

but you can not compare them to anything but 70w hps/100w mh. and even there, only the size of the t5 coverage saves them from being beat by the hps or mh.

man I switched from t5s to a HID system.. my buds are huge, very dense, as way more lumens, only $6 a month to run 1000w. with proper venting....

sso said:

humm, i know you guys like your t5´s and all and yes they are great.
ive tried ho t5´s... (49w to be fair) 4x49w (4300 lm) that i added lots of cfls to and later 150w hps´s.
they grow fine plants, just not if you compare them to f.e 400w mh and t5 vegged plants look pathetic compared to f.e 600w hps vegged plants.

can you grow good shit with t5´s? yes. they are fine for small grows where hps does not fit, space or heatvise (or noisevise)

but you can not compare them to anything but 70w hps/100w mh. and even there, only the size of the t5 coverage saves them from being beat by the hps or mh.

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I get BETTER growth than anyone I've seen W/Wh I AM NOT growing with Standard T5... or Horticulture T5 49W are not HO mine are 54W per 4'Bulb..
I am using Specialized Bulbs developed for Coral Growth that have 25 years of full time research and use using this tech. Bulb manufacturers are JUST NOW starting to implement my method into HID! im doing SOMETHING RIGHT! if HID manufacturers are copying ME!
I urge you to take a minute read my research and decide for yourselves before repeating the propaganda you've read or heard from someone else.
I am here to change those stereotypes and misconceptions of T5 and what is POSSIBLE!
I can compare my t5 to any setup you can muster. 1000w no problem bring it.. i will grow BETTER product w/wh.

Nynexx said:

man I switched from t5s to a HID system.. my buds are huge, very dense, as way more lumens, only $6 a month to run 1000w. with proper venting....

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Read the definition of lumens. its what the EYE sees not the plants.. when your done read the definition of PAR then read my thread and understand that measuring a bulb in lumens means NOTHING when growing plants. 100000 lumens @ 10%PAR is < 1000 lumens @100%PAR
All of my research is backed by scientific plant studies and pure physics and math chack it out be surprised and renew your original trust in T5.

dosent matter what the eye and the plant sees.....the end result is what matters......everyone knows that a 1000w will blow a t-5 out the water i tryed to say it before nicely but its just too dumb to even talk about........end of story 1000w beats a t5 all day and its anot propaganda like i said i see t5's everyday at work i see my hps at home i see my friends t5 grows i see them on here i see them online on youtube everywwhere..... Im basing my opinion on what is not what a article says.......

its like saying your mustang is going to beat my farrari lol and that you have an article to prove it....lol come on we all know what t5's do and we all know what a 1000w hps will do...... enough said really