Synthetics and benificials.

Can you use a nutrient line up like cns 17 along with oregonism xl, Provided I use dechlorinated water and organic ph buffers? Would it be better to make a micro brew than to transplant directly on top of bennies?

I brew an organic tea with Great White Mycorrhizae, Liquid Karma, Bud Candy, and Sensizym and let it sit over night with an air stone providing oxygen to the bacteria... Then the next day I add my base nutrient which is Sensi Grow and Bloom and balance my pH before watering

So you can supplement with bennies while using synthetics...sweet thnx man, nice recipe

hardknox72 said:

So you can supplement with bennies while using synthetics...sweet thnx man, nice recipe

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You can as long as you add some sort of organic organic material to your feeding schedule. Try using some MaxiCrop Seaweed along with those microbes. The microbe will just add some vigor to you plants and seaweed is a growth stimulator. Remember to focus on bacterial beneficials because when the phosphorus levels go up in bloom that will kill all your fungus.

Thanx moonraver, I would`ve never thought of that. Im using liquid karma but im gonna replace it with nitrozyme. Running chernobyl, og kush and bluedream.

@Moonraver interesting post. Do you have any references to the high P killing fungus? I always wondered this with Dyna-gro and it's high P formula. Many state that additional N is needed in their grows. I suspected the lack of bacteria to process the high ammonical N.

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@Moonraver interesting post. Do you have any references to the high P killing fungus? I always wondered this with Dyna-gro and it's high P formula. Many state that additional N is needed in their grows. I suspected the lack of bacteria to process the high ammonical N.

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this might explain why: http://idosi.org/wjas/wjas2(1)/4.pdf
"On the other hand, mycorrhizal infection has been shown to depress plant growth in soils with optimum phosphorus availability, these effect were attributed to competition for carbon between the host plant and the mycorrhizal fungi [11]."

The main role of mycorrhizae is to supply P to the plants. So not necessarily a reference to high P killing fungus, but more of a reference as to why you might not see the expected increase in growth when using myco supplements with DG bloom 3-12-6. Once they (mycos and plant) compete for carbon I assume plant wins.

This study suggests that higher levels of P reduce myco growth in the rootzone: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2433245?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101269368453

Seems that mycos grow best and provide the most benefit when applied to low-P soils. While they also provide cytokinins, B vitamins, and other growth hormones to a plant, their main role is supplying P.

Can't find a specific ppm number, though. Seems to be more of a curve.

@Clown thanks. Very good research. I couldn't find squat. I repped you but I must have in the past cuz I got that spread it around message.! My direction of study as to why DG needs more N is I suspect the lack of the bacteria Nitrosomonas and nitrobacter to process the ammoniacal nitrogen when growing completly inert (rockwool/hydroton) Any insight? I tried to find out where this bacteria comes from.