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Guz315

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First grow indoors in 3 gallon pots using coast of main stonington blend soil. Manufacturers suggestions is to add nutrients after week 3/4. Was planning on adding fish bone meal but realized i have enough room to add a decent amount of fresh soil to the pot. Should I ????

Add fresh soil to top of pot?

Add fish bone meal as I am starting flowering?

Or add fresh soil mixed with the bone meal?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions?
 
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Just fill it up with soil and let it ride, fish bone meal sounds risky as a super soil top dress, you usually want to cook this into the soil for 4 weeks +.

Either get the ingredients and ratios from the soil manufacture and eyeball what you need or let it ride and see what it lacks so you at least know what to add.
 
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Guz315

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SPLFreak808 said:
Just fill it up with soil and let it ride, fish bone meal sounds risky as a super soil top dress, you usually want to cook this into the soil for 4 weeks +.

Either get the ingredients and ratios from the soil manufacture and eyeball what you need or let it ride and see what it lacks so you at least know what to add.
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Cool thanks for the reply soo much info out there it is hard to figure out what is good and living in a state where everything needs to be hush hush is dumb. Lol this is the company’s feeding suggestions. So basically what I was going to do is mix the suggested amount into some new soil and put it on top. But I may just throw the soil and see what happens
 

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Richard Drysift

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You can always add fresh soil and/or ewc as a top dressing. Worm casting ups the microbial population & activity; it is always good to add. The feed chart wants you to buy more coast of Maine products but you can also make your own choices in organic fertilizer. It's up to you but whatever you add as a top dress should be mixed with some compost whenever possible to keep microbial populations highly active... it is what makes super soil super after all. The effectiveness of whatever is added to the mix is governed by the level of microbial activity in your mix.
1/4 cup of fish bone meal mixed with soil and/or ewc in a 5-7gal pot should be fine because it is not a soluble form. It will take weeks to begin breaking down after watering it in. Alternatively you could go with crab meal or kelp. You could forgo top dressing altogether if you simply add what is needed to the soil directly and allow it to "cook" by letting it set for a month.
They are suggesting to either give fish bone meal as a dry fert or liquid squid in soluble form. I use liquid fish which is similar in npk value. Don't try to do both liquids and dry ferts at this point; just pick one route and stay the course until you know what your plants needs are. The reason they are suggesting it is because coast of Maine makes liquid squid 2-3-0. I have been using Neptune s harvest liquid fish & seaweed 2-3-1 fertilizer for years. They are saying to give it at each watering but just weekly feedings was may even be enough. It's really up to you if you want to follow the feed chart or not but they are not steering you wrong.
 
Don_Sequitor

Don_Sequitor

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I intentionally fill my pots to brim with soil at the beginning of my grow so I can watch the subsidence.

Something about the plant's consumption of soil just peeks my interests. Plus that space is useful during watering.

As the plant gets bigger, and the soil subsides, you should increase your fertigation schedule.
 
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Guz315 said:
Cool thanks for the reply soo much info out there it is hard to figure out what is good and living in a state where everything needs to be hush hush is dumb. Lol this is the company’s feeding suggestions. So basically what I was going to do is mix the suggested amount into some new soil and put it on top. But I may just throw the soil and see what happens
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I do have the liquid squid fertilizer on hand also.
Richard Drysift said:
You can always add fresh soil and/or ewc as a top dressing. Worm casting ups the microbial population & activity; it is always good to add. The feed chart wants you to buy more coast of Maine products but you can also make your own choices in organic fertilizer. It's up to you but whatever you add as a top dress should be mixed with some compost whenever possible to keep microbial populations highly active... it is what makes super soil super after all. The effectiveness of whatever is added to the mix is governed by the level of microbial activity in your mix.
1/4 cup of fish bone meal mixed with soil and/or ewc in a 5-7gal pot should be fine because it is not a soluble form. It will take weeks to begin breaking down after watering it in. Alternatively you could go with crab meal or kelp. You could forgo top dressing altogether if you simply add what is needed to the soil directly and allow it to "cook" by letting it set for a month.
They are suggesting to either give fish bone meal as a dry fert or liquid squid in soluble form. I use liquid fish which is similar in npk value. Don't try to do both liquids and dry ferts at this point; just pick one route and stay the course until you know what your plants needs are. The reason they are suggesting it is because coast of Maine makes liquid squid 2-3-0. I have been using Neptune s harvest liquid fish & seaweed 2-3-1 fertilizer for years. They are saying to give it at each watering but just weekly feedings was may even be enough. It's really up to you if you want to follow the feed chart or not but they are not steering you wrong.
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Awesome. I ended up tipping off the pots with the remaining soil. Been fighting a gnat issue too so spent some quality time today getting shit taken care of. Just didn’t know if I added the fish bone meal in with some new soil that Already has nutes in would be too much. ? I tend to over do everything I get into so I’m forcing myself to try to keep shit simple. The plants are doing very well as far as I know so until I get concerned I’m going to ride it out. Got to walk before you crawl right? Using my first few runs as a opportunity to learn. P.s. love the profile pic. Just binge watched jaws at work last week. Lol. Here is a pic of my first plant ever..... 2nd week of flower. Using just a 450 viparspectrum led. And the soil.
 
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Guz315 said:
I do have the liquid squid fertilizer on hand also.



Awesome. I ended up tipping off the pots with the remaining soil. Been fighting a gnat issue too so spent some quality time today getting shit taken care of. Just didn’t know if I added the fish bone meal in with some new soil that Already has nutes in would be too much. ? I tend to over do everything I get into so I’m forcing myself to try to keep shit simple. The plants are doing very well as far as I know so until I get concerned I’m going to ride it out. Got to walk before you crawl right? Using my first few runs as a opportunity to learn. P.s. love the profile pic. Just binge watched jaws at work last week. Lol. Here is a pic of my first plant ever..... 2nd week of flower. Using just a 450 viparspectrum led. And the soil.
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Here is a pic of my first attempt
 

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Richard Drysift said:
You can always add fresh soil and/or ewc as a top dressing. Worm casting ups the microbial population & activity; it is always good to add. The feed chart wants you to buy more coast of Maine products but you can also make your own choices in organic fertilizer. It's up to you but whatever you add as a top dress should be mixed with some compost whenever possible to keep microbial populations highly active... it is what makes super soil super after all. The effectiveness of whatever is added to the mix is governed by the level of microbial activity in your mix.
1/4 cup of fish bone meal mixed with soil and/or ewc in a 5-7gal pot should be fine because it is not a soluble form. It will take weeks to begin breaking down after watering it in. Alternatively you could go with crab meal or kelp. You could forgo top dressing altogether if you simply add what is needed to the soil directly and allow it to "cook" by letting it set for a month.
They are suggesting to either give fish bone meal as a dry fert or liquid squid in soluble form. I use liquid fish which is similar in npk value. Don't try to do both liquids and dry ferts at this point; just pick one route and stay the course until you know what your plants needs are. The reason they are suggesting it is because coast of Maine makes liquid squid 2-3-0. I have been using Neptune s harvest liquid fish & seaweed 2-3-1 fertilizer for years. They are saying to give it at each watering but just weekly feedings was may even be enough. It's really up to you if you want to follow the feed chart or not but they are not steering you wrong.
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So I. Your point he p in the squid fert is sufficient? I know I always see people trying to get the most p out of things. ?
 
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Richard Drysift

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Nutrients "cooked" into the soil are released as the plant needs them. Adding soluble nutrients in liquid form feeds the plants directly. Dry fertilizer has to break down in order to become available to the plants so it is a slower release. Liquid fertilizer is ready to be absorbed by the plants much faster in a soluble form. That's why the feed chart is saying to choose one or the other.
In a soil grow you shouldn't worry about giving this much P or that much N just water the plants as needed. If they are getting noticeably pale then plants might need a boost of soluble nutrient but wait awhile in between feedings to see what/if they need.
When the plant is harvested you can recycle the soil for another run by adding compost and amendments. It is better imo to add things like fish bone meal to the soil before there are plants growing in it. Then you only will need to water the plants for most of the run. Maybe just the occasional worm tea..
 
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