Super Soil Newb

maverickx

Member
After sprouting from seed do you just place into the super soil or start in something else? Is there any chance of it being to "hot" or is it not an issue when going organic?
 

SpicySativa

Well-Known Member
You don't want to put your plant into a "hot" super soil until it has some healthy roots going. As a general rule, you might wait 3 weeks from seed sprout, or 1-2 weeks from rooting a clone. This is a very general guideline. Some "super soils" are mild enough that they won't burn a young seedling. Other soils will burn a little seedling to a crisp...

To be safe, just start your seeds in something mild like a mix of equal parts peat moss, worm castings, and perlite.
 

fandango

Well-Known Member
or put the super soil lower in the pot and use a mild top layer than do some top dressing along the way after your kids are teenagers
 

ProHuman

Well-Known Member
Seedlings do not need a lot of nutrients at all. You can start them in some peat and they will be fine.
They get their energy from the first set of round leaves they have, which provide them with the ability to grow roots. Once they grow roots, then they begin to need nutrients. btw, peat moss is organic.
 

maverickx

Member
So, start off in peat.


Instead of a time frame i.e 3-weeks is there something I can look for before transplanting to the super soil? For example after the 3rd set of true leaves.
 

SpicySativa

Well-Known Member
I personally wouldn't use peat moss alone without also adding perlite and compost of some sort. That just me.
 

ProHuman

Well-Known Member
Spicy is right. Try a peat based soil less mixture, which has perlite mixed in already. most of those mixes also have the beneficial bacteria in it as well. The perlite helps with the drainage as peat alone can retain a lot of moisture.

You can even mix some of your super soil in with your peat mix, at no more than 1:1 ratio. Maybe try a 2 peat to 1 soil ratio, and you should be fine. I suppose it depends on the size of your initial container for the seedling. If it is very small, and you plan to transplant as soon as it has roots, then more peat (2:1). If it is a larger container, and the seedling will veg for a few weeks before transplanting you should mix more soil (1:1)

The thing I look for when transplanting is roots. I wait until the soil is dryer, and I pull the root ball out of the container, if I see the roots starting to appear along the outside of the soil, then it is time to repot.
 

maverickx

Member
Thanks guys, I havea few more questions.

I am looking into subcools recipe:

Here are the amounts we’ve found will produce the best-tasting buds and strongest medicines:

  • 8 large bags of a high-quality organic potting soil with coco fiber and mycorrhizae (i.e., your base soil)
  • 25 to 50 lbs of organic worm castings
  • 5 lbs steamed bone meal
  • 5 lbs Bloom bat guano
  • 5 lbs blood meal
  • 3 lbs rock phosphate
  • ¾ cup Epson salts
  • ½ cup sweet lime (dolomite)
  • ½ cup azomite (trace elements)
  • 2 tbsp powdered humic acid

1) I have read the thread on sticky but, could not find anything have any changes been made since 09?

2) "8 large bags of a high-quality organic potting soil with coco fiber and mycorrhizae (i.e., your base soil)" What would be large, how many gallons?

3) Using this mix any idea how many gallons it would be total? I am wondering if I should cut it in half.
 

ProHuman

Well-Known Member
I dont know, since I don' use hat super soil mix. Seems like a lot of hassle for me o mix up soil like that. Perhaps someone else can chime in on it. I use Fox Farms Ocean Forrest soil mixed with B'cuzz (Peat Based Soil Less Mix), and my plants do just fine.
 

Sir Stickybuds

Well-Known Member
it's 8 - 1.5 cubic ft. bags. equals out to around 90 gallons of soil (1 cubic ft = approx. 7.5 gallons), I have posted a recipe per cubic ft. in the subcool forum, click link in my sig.
 

SpicySativa

Well-Known Member
Thanks guys, I havea few more questions.

I am looking into subcools recipe:

Here are the amounts we’ve found will produce the best-tasting buds and strongest medicines:

  • 8 large bags of a high-quality organic potting soil with coco fiber and mycorrhizae (i.e., your base soil)
  • 25 to 50 lbs of organic worm castings
  • 5 lbs steamed bone meal
  • 5 lbs Bloom bat guano
  • 5 lbs blood meal
  • 3 lbs rock phosphate
  • ¾ cup Epson salts
  • ½ cup sweet lime (dolomite)
  • ½ cup azomite (trace elements)
  • 2 tbsp powdered humic acid

1) I have read the thread on sticky but, could not find anything have any changes been made since 09?

2) "8 large bags of a high-quality organic potting soil with coco fiber and mycorrhizae (i.e., your base soil)" What would be large, how many gallons?

3) Using this mix any idea how many gallons it would be total? I am wondering if I should cut it in half.
1) Cannabis plants haven't changed since '09. If it worked then (it did...) it'll still work now.

2) The "large" bags are 1.5-2 cubic feet.

3) About 100 gallons
 

benniespliff

New Member
So, if I am filling 10 10-gallon pots I should cut the whole recipe in half?
When you mix everything up it should be enough to fill 10 10-gal pots half way but, I would still get the other 4 bags of the base soil since you are going to layer or mix it into the super soil.
 
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