Sublingual drops

Maine Buds

Maine Buds

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Ok so I am maxing a tincture from so pretty premo sugar leaf. I'm going to do the freezer method for about a week. My question is I want to reduce the alcohol down so I can add lecithin coconut oil and flavorings how should I do this? Should I strain the the alcohol after a week and then heat and add other ingredients? Should I reduce it while the bud is still in ? I was thinking of doing a second run with coconut oil a hot one to pull anything left out and combining these. Should I reduce the alcohol first ?

This is my first tincture and I am using a lot of good trim about 2 1/2 oz it took a whole bottle to absorb in to the jar. I left about 3/4 of inch above the material it's only been 2 days and the alcohol is already being absorbed quickly and there's not much left above the line! Any opinions comments experiences recipes they are welcome!
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Sounds like it might work OK orally....
This is one of those threads...

Did you research this method?

A number of problems here.
 
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lio lacidem

lio lacidem

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I would definately strain the alcohol asap. are you trying to make an actual tincture or a cannabinoid infused alcohol drink ie green dragon?
 
Maine Buds

Maine Buds

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lio lacidem said:
I would definately strain the alcohol asap. are you trying to make an actual tincture or a cannabinoid infused alcohol drink ie green dragon?
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I want a tincture.
I was thinking freezer method for a week or two with shaking in between then into a double boiler for 6 or so hrs strain till clean( keep material for a second run with coconut oil) reduce to half volume.at this point I will store the greater portion of the tincture in this form. I know that I can just do the drops as they are in this form but totally gross plus the alcohol is not an option for me so I then would take an oz of alcohol mix with an oz of coconut oil ( from the second run) and a few tablespoons of water. Heat In double boiler to evaporate alcohol from the mix at this time I would also add liquid lecithin ( not sure about measurements yet) let cool over night in fridge remove hardened coconut drain water and pat dry. I would then also like to add another oil to keep the mixture from getting to hard so I was thinking almond oil or some other oil and some lorann candy flavoring. I got watermelon and green apple and I also got the tart and sour not sure if that would work as well or if it would degrade the thc. So I would use a dropper style delivery system under the tongue or an atomizer in between the cheek and tongue. I have researched a lot and have not found much on anyone doing it this way. Do you think this will work? I know that the coconut oils and sublingual drops will only stay for so long before it degrades. Thoughts?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Sometime tonight I'll reply..

Coconut oil, no
Extraction length, no
Lecithin, no
The double boil thing, no

Do I think this will work?
Not very well...
 
Blunter the kid

Blunter the kid

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Maine Buds said:
I want a tincture.
I was thinking freezer method for a week or two with shaking in between then into a double boiler for 6 or so hrs strain till clean( keep material for a second run with coconut oil) reduce to half volume.at this point I will store the greater portion of the tincture in this form. I know that I can just do the drops as they are in this form but totally gross plus the alcohol is not an option for me so I then would take an oz of alcohol mix with an oz of coconut oil ( from the second run) and a few tablespoons of water. Heat In double boiler to evaporate alcohol from the mix at this time I would also add liquid lecithin ( not sure about measurements yet) let cool over night in fridge remove hardened coconut drain water and pat dry. I would then also like to add another oil to keep the mixture from getting to hard so I was thinking almond oil or some other oil and some lorann candy flavoring. I got watermelon and green apple and I also got the tart and sour not sure if that would work as well or if it would degrade the thc. So I would use a dropper style delivery system under the tongue or an atomizer in between the cheek and tongue. I have researched a lot and have not found much on anyone doing it this way. Do you think this will work? I know that the coconut oils and sublingual drops will only stay for so long before it degrades. Thoughts?
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Is the tincture for medicinal or recreational purposes?
 
lio lacidem

lio lacidem

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First off you may be combining multiple teks. Ive only heard of a long soak tincture using a vegetable glycerin solvent.
 
Maine Buds

Maine Buds

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lio lacidem said:
First off you may be combining multiple teks. Ive only heard of a long soak tincture using a vegetable glycerin solvent.
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I read one thread where someone combined their green dragon and VG at a 1:1 ratio over slow heat and used it this way ( with alcohol still in it) sublingualy. I also read coconut oil can be used as well. Is it the same as VG or will I need VG in the mix for viscosity purposes?
 
Blunter the kid

Blunter the kid

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Maine Buds said:
Medicinal
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If it's medicinal then extra steps don't need to be taken to ensure purity such as quick wash or winterization.
All you do is make RSO, then dilute it with ethanol or coconut oil.
And to enhance the medicinal effects you could add extra essential oils, skunkpharm has an excellent article with a recipe included for making sublingual Holy Anointing Oil, I make this stuff myself and it's a lot more effective than just a regular cannabis tincture.
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/holy-anointing-oil-and-holy-shit/
 
Maine Buds

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I wonder in what extra steps you think I may be taking. As far as I'm concerned a cold wash will help the chlorophyll stay in the plant matter although not being very potent. ( but has hopefully been mostly saturated with the good stuff) after Reducing it down like Gd chlorophyll will be released no dought which is why when I add the coconut oil I will add the water to hold all the green and crap it will then be poured off. I have also read that hot cool rotations help extract the goodies faster. I may not be explaining it right but that's as good as I can get this am with no coffee and meds in me yet! Lol
 
Blunter the kid

Blunter the kid

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Well a cold ethanol soak for about an hour would pull everything you want and an additional wash would pull mostly chlorophyll, which has it's own benefits aside from the myriad of other phytochemicals in cannabis.
Also you could just reduce the alcohol to a syrup consistency, then just add it to the coconut oil and then proceed to decarb.
IMO since your eating it you wouldn't want to wash it with water, your gonna be removing some of the medicinal compounds that constitute a full plant extract.
Also if you don't have a sensitivity to chlorophyll, you shouldn't be trying to remove it because of its medicinal/nutritional benefits when ingested orally.
 
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Maine Buds

Maine Buds

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Blunter the kid said:
Well a cold ethanol soak for about an hour would pull everything you want and an additional wash would pull mostly chlorophyll, which has it's own benefits aside from the myriad of other phytochemicals in cannabis.
Also you could just reduce the alcohol to a syrup consistency, then just add it to the coconut oil and then proceed to decarb.
IMO since your eating it you wouldn't want to wash it with water, your gonna be removing some of the medicinal compounds that constitute a full plant extract.
Also if you don't have a sensitivity to chlorophyll, you shouldn't be trying to remove it because of its medicinal/nutritional benefits when ingested orally.
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No I'm not sensitive to it it just taste like ass!
 
Maine Buds

Maine Buds

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Maine Buds said:
No I'm not sensitive to it it just taste like ass!
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I already decarbed my material. Do you really think I would go through all this and be so stupid as to no decard my shit. I don't think anyone has Any info this forum has become a pain in the ass I'm outta here!
 
lio lacidem

lio lacidem

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Well being as you want info your doing it wrong. It doesnt matter how cold your ethanol soak is a two day soak is goingto pull all kinds of chlorophyl and other junk. Secondly people here are trying to give you good info so relax and ask specific questions and you may get better answers.
 
Fadedawg

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Maine Buds said:
Ok so I am maxing a tincture from so pretty premo sugar leaf. I'm going to do the freezer method for about a week. My question is I want to reduce the alcohol down so I can add lecithin coconut oil and flavorings how should I do this? Should I strain the the alcohol after a week and then heat and add other ingredients? Should I reduce it while the bud is still in ? I was thinking of doing a second run with coconut oil a hot one to pull anything left out and combining these. Should I reduce the alcohol first ?

This is my first tincture and I am using a lot of good trim about 2 1/2 oz it took a whole bottle to absorb in to the jar. I left about 3/4 of inch above the material it's only been 2 days and the alcohol is already being absorbed quickly and there's not much left above the line! Any opinions comments experiences recipes they are welcome!
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I recommend using a QWET technique and making Brown Dragon instead of Green Dragon to start with.
 
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