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olylifter420

olylifter420

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"learn science" is a huge non specific term...

And im sorry if i am not as merely as educated as you man... You must feel pity when replying to believers.

Nah man aint nothing bugging me... I just assume that people will stick to their words As much as i do



mindphuk said:
All I meant was 'the' science i.e. planetary science. That's why I made some specifics, like the temperature, pressure, gravity, magnetosphere. etc. All of our current understanding is sort of a prerequisite for being able to do the calculations yourself which is what I said.

You seem to have a habit of interpreting my words in the worst possible way. You acted all pissed off at me once when I took too long to reply to your PM. Is everything okay man? Is something else bugging you? I really didn't mean to imply anything negative toward you, but I did assume you didn't know and/or understand the current science regarding this topic otherwise you wouldn't have been asking those questions in that way. You and I are still good. I take it for granted that most people aren't informed in a lot of areas that I am, it's never personal. I have never considered ignorance and stupidity the same although I tend to use uniformed rather than ignorance since it has picked up negative connotations.
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mindphuk

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Chief Walkin Eagle said:
Of course its boasting, you feel superior because of these "truths" people have told you. You say "thats science" like you actually have scientific knowledge that I dont. Why dont you take your own advice and learn from what people have to say, you know Im not the only one who pointed out your arrogance. Do you even remember the humble Hep? You seemed like a chill dude when I was reading your older posts, now you just seem like another arrogant know-it-all that has to tell people how it is. Believe it or not, but theres a dramatic change to your attitude man. Go read your older posts and and compare them to the posts where you lecture us inferior theists, then try and tell me your attitude hasnt changed. Smoke a joint, man.
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He is a chill dude. Even when he disagreed with me and many others wrt deities, people liked Hep. People still do like him, because of the way he acts, not because of what he does or does not believe. This is a huge concept that you just can't seem to understand.

He intuitively knows or has learned that he doesn't have to be a dick to the people he disagrees with, a truism for everyone. He doesn't have to act older than he is and call others out on their immaturity. Some people try the opposite approach... how's that working for ya Chief? Why are there so many people on this website that dislike you? How come most people can get along with others, even when they vehemently disagree or have opposing positions on a subject but you have to make this all personal and make it about people's character? Why do you persist in being an asshole to people that don't believe shit you say? You accuse Hep of being arrogant but your arrogance is pronounced when you act like other people are stupid for not believing what you believe. No one told Hep what to believe, but people did help him with discovering flaws in his thought process. You aren't even willing to discuss them.

Your post is dripping with irony, telling him to smoke a joint because he's become arrogant. He's changed his position on something he believed, any change in character is purely your invention. You seem to be the only person that dislikes him. Your haranguing posts are extremely antagonistic and got one of the most chill dudes here to tell you to fuck off. You really need to start looking at your own behavior before you give out advice on how to act here. A number of people really dislike you but you think you're capable of telling a well-liked guy how to act to be liked better????? And I bet you think people are joking when they call you delusional.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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What do you guys think about growing a salvia divinorum plant so I can grab some leaves and chew a quid whenever I want? I wonder if it's even worth the time. I've tripped on salvia a couple of times using the smoking method and had an alright trip.. But I was wondering if theres a difference in the trip between smoking it and eating t. I found the trip to be overly intense and not in a good way or a bad way.. It would be cool if it wasn't so intense and lasted longer. Have any of you ever chewed up salvia leaves? Did you enjoy your trip?
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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olylifter420 said:
"learn science" is a huge non specific term...

And im sorry if i am not as merely as educated as you man... You must feel pity when replying to believers.

Nah man aint nothing bugging me... I just assume that people will stick to their words As much as i do
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Sometimes after I post, I read through it and find a missed word like that or some other thing that doesn't make sense. However, lately, if I only change a word or a few letters, I've been getting bounced to some RIU security thing and hasn't been accepting my confirmation. It's become insane.

Either way, I still remember thinking I was saying 'learn the science' otherwise the figuring it out for yourself wouldn't have made as much sense.

I don't usually feel pity for anyone. I told you I used to be a believer, back and forth for years, sometimes with my childhood deity YHWH, and others with a more abstract deistic version but letting go of belief isn't easy for anyone IMO. I maybe do feel pity for some people, not because of their belief, but like CWE who seems incapable of using reason and having a mature conversation. You and I got along because we discussed things, we didn't argue during our arguments so much. Though I suppose it's not pity so much as frustration and disappointment that some people won't even consider the opposing argument, they are just waiting for a chance to respond so they can be heard. They only give the appearance of a dialogue. I think you did some of this with some others but some, like thsativahigh, certainly deserved it. :)
I really hope you meant the 'apology' as a joke but there have been times I don't relate to other people intellectually and it is awkward and I find cannabis helps enormously in those situations, which is another reason I love this plant. When smoking, people either seem incredibly stupid or insanely smart, sometimes all at once and no one cares or judges.

I hear you about people not living up to expectations. I certainly feel tremendous guilt when I don't and it bugs me that some people don't even have the semblance of remorse. I don't even always expect an apology if I think their regret is sincere because sometimes shit happens. However, if it is a pattern, I begin to disassociate from that person.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Hepheastus420 said:
What do you guys think about growing a salvia divinorum plant so I can grab some leaves and chew a quid whenever I want? I wonder if it's even worth the time. I've tripped on salvia a couple of times using the smoking method and had an alright trip.. But I was wondering if theres a difference in the trip between smoking it and eating t. I found the trip to be overly intense and not in a good way or a bad way.. It would be cool if it wasn't so intense and lasted longer. Have any of you ever chewed up salvia leaves? Did you enjoy your trip?
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I hated the salvia trips I had. They weren't terrible but weren't enjoyable.

I did pick up some capsules of DMT. It is full of what appears to be some plant material. I would like suggestions on how to best smoke these. Mix with weed? Pipe or bong? The whole dose or a little at a time? Music or not, or does it even matter?
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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mindphuk said:
I hated the salvia trips I had. They weren't terrible but weren't enjoyable.

I did pick up some capsules of DMT. It is full of what appears to be some plant material. I would like suggestions on how to best smoke these. Mix with weed? Pipe or bong? The whole dose or a little at a time? Music or not, or does it even matter?
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Have you ever tripped by chewing on the leaves?

Sweet dude, you'll have a good time. Just don't smoke a large dose for your first trip. No need for a sitter or anything, unless you want one.

IME, smoking with weed was no different than smoking with tobacco. I recommend weed though since it's always better being high after tripping. I also recommend you smoke some with tobacco (or vap) so you can feel the after effects of DMT. It will feel like a very clean and smooth body high.. Like you just screwed the hottest chick and you're feeling good.. relaxed high.

Pipe since you can control how much or how fast your inhaling the smoke. Bong once you're experienced with the dosages you prefer.

Depends on how much you have. You said plant like material, what do you mean by that? The DMT I have seen extracted and the DMT I've smoked has always been white with a yellow tint. I've never measured out actual dosages. At one point I was given a bunch of capsules of DMT from a friends just because and with that I was able to tell how much to sprinkle. I say go with the sprinkle method (I just created this method)
1) fill your pipe about halfway with whatever you want to smoke with your DMT.
2) sprinkle just a little DMT in your pipe. Spread it out evenly over the bowl and don't make it a thick layer (at all).
3) Now when you hit it, how a quarter of your pipe.. Inhale and exhale.. See how you feel. You may begin to trip and it depends on how much more you want to trip.. If you want more, hit another quarter.. Then another.. Depnds on you.

MUSIC!!!!!!!! Yes dude. Play some good feeling trippy music. It may seem stereotypical, but the first time I tripped on DMT, I listened to "I am the walrus".. Awesome DMT song.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Also, if you have DMT to spare, I say you roll a DMT joint. OMFG dude, it will be the most smooth trip you've ever had. I feel in love with them on my first one. You just get your joint ready with your bud. Before rolling, tap out a thin line of DMT along the edge of the bud taht's on top of your flat rolling paper. Roll it up and light it. Take decent sized hits and hold it in. Keep on puffing till you are where you want. You will see visuals creeping on. Your visuals will peak on your last hit but it won't really feel like a peak. They're awesome, trust me.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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No biggie man, i understand that there is a pattern here, so I understand that as well...




mindphuk said:
Sometimes after I post, I read through it and find a missed word like that or some other thing that doesn't make sense. However, lately, if I only change a word or a few letters, I've been getting bounced to some RIU security thing and hasn't been accepting my confirmation. It's become insane.

Either way, I still remember thinking I was saying 'learn the science' otherwise the figuring it out for yourself wouldn't have made as much sense.

I don't usually feel pity for anyone. I told you I used to be a believer, back and forth for years, sometimes with my childhood deity YHWH, and others with a more abstract deistic version but letting go of belief isn't easy for anyone IMO. I maybe do feel pity for some people, not because of their belief, but like CWE who seems incapable of using reason and having a mature conversation. You and I got along because we discussed things, we didn't argue during our arguments so much. Though I suppose it's not pity so much as frustration and disappointment that some people won't even consider the opposing argument, they are just waiting for a chance to respond so they can be heard. They only give the appearance of a dialogue. I think you did some of this with some others but some, like thsativahigh, certainly deserved it. :)
I really hope you meant the 'apology' as a joke but there have been times I don't relate to other people intellectually and it is awkward and I find cannabis helps enormously in those situations, which is another reason I love this plant. When smoking, people either seem incredibly stupid or insanely smart, sometimes all at once and no one cares or judges.

I hear you about people not living up to expectations. I certainly feel tremendous guilt when I don't and it bugs me that some people don't even have the semblance of remorse. I don't even always expect an apology if I think their regret is sincere because sometimes shit happens. However, if it is a pattern, I begin to disassociate from that person.
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mindphuk

mindphuk

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olylifter420 said:
No biggie man, i understand that there is a pattern here, so I understand that as well...
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Just keep sticking to your word and act the person you strive to be. The older you get, the more you will notice that the world is full of assholes and people that will screw you over, even in the smallest of ways. It can be hard for nice people (and healers like me and you), but you have to learn to say 'no' more often than you want because your instincts tell you to help out others. You will then get a reputation, not for being the helpful guy you really are but as an easy mark. A sad state of affairs, but it's true.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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So you are saying some atheists are assholes and targetting me cause im an easy mark?


And that you somehow screwd me over?

Im might be wrong.


mindphuk said:
Just keep sticking to your word and act the person you strive to be. The older you get, the more you will notice that the world is full of assholes and people that will screw you over, even in the smallest of ways. It can be hard for nice people (and healers like me and you), but you have to learn to say 'no' more often than you want because your instincts tell you to help out others. You will then get a reputation, not for being the helpful guy you really are but as an easy mark. A sad state of affairs, but it's true.
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mindphuk

mindphuk

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olylifter420 said:
So you are saying some atheists are assholes and targetting me cause im an easy mark?


And that you somehow screwd me over?

Im might be wrong.
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Atheists? No, most anyone is capable of doing that, often people we would never consider. I'm not talking about here but IRL where it counts.
AFAIK, I never screwed you over.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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HOLY FUCK SHIT!! I just found out what's wrong with me mentally. I have a disorder called derealization/depersonalization disorder. I'm not sure why I'm telling you guys this, I guess it's because I'm kinda happy and can do some research on what goes on in my head now. Also it relates to cannabis.. And sadly my loving shrooms. Apparently cannabis and shroom trips (good or bad) kick in the effects of this disorder. Fuck..

Weird.. Anyways, somebody I talked to here was describing exactly how I felt about the "robotic" and "third person" feeling and we were trying to figure out WTH it is.. I'm sorry I forgot who I was talking to but you should check it out.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Common descriptions of symptoms are: feeling disconnected from one's physicality; feeling as though one is not completely occupying the body; not feeling in control of one's speech or physical movements; feeling detached from one's own thoughts or emotions; a sense of automation, going through the motions of life but not experiencing it or participating in it; loss of conviction with one's identity; feeling a disconnection from one's body; inability to accept ones reflection as one's own; difficulty relating oneself to reality and the environment; feeling as though one is in a dream; and even out-of-body experiences'.[SUP][2]

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Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Metasynth said:
You learn that on da interwebz? Always a good idea to self diagnose via WebMD...
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Yes. I should talk to my doctor about this.. Not sure if you're using sarcasm since you don't like me and all, but I probably will check out more on WebMD.. Good advice, thanks.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Hepheastus420 said:
HOLY FUCK SHIT!! I just found out what's wrong with me mentally. I have a disorder called derealization/depersonalization disorder. I'm not sure why I'm telling you guys this, I guess it's because I'm kinda happy and can do some research on what goes on in my head now. Also it relates to cannabis.. And sadly my loving shrooms. Apparently cannabis and shroom trips (good or bad) kick in the effects of this disorder. Fuck..

Weird.. Anyways, somebody I talked to here was describing exactly how I felt about the "robotic" and "third person" feeling and we were trying to figure out WTH it is.. I'm sorry I forgot who I was talking to but you should check it out.
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Well if you just personally realized this ... I see a message of hope there. cn
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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So I'm PM'ing somebody (Name withheld). He/she (Just gonna go by he) is trying to convince me that Francis Cricks discovered the double-helix while tripping on LSD. He claims that this is well known throughout the scientific community. Am I missing something? Is this true?

I could have sworn Rosalind with her X-rays discovered it first and her research was given to Watson who then shared it with Cricks. Ignoring that, I doubt he was tripping during his research.

So did Cricks trip on LSD while doing research? BS right?
 
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