Stoneslacker's new 250w micro hempy scrog Blueberry, Blackjack and Permafrost

Beautiful work!

JD

Thanks guys. The clones are a bit further along than the mainliners. The big girls still look to have a bit to go yet. I'm guessing right around day 67 will be harvest. That will give me around a 10-14 day flush period which would be a little longer than normal. Looking at them, there isn't alot of mass to be added, mainly some maturing so I don't think they are using many nutes anyway. I'll still add floranectar till the last few days giving plain water the last couple times.

Back to your DNA statement a few pages back, it's actually possible. Look into tissue culture. People are already using it for keeping genetics around. My friend and fellow grower and I were talking about it the other night. I haven't read up on it a lot yet but what I've read sounds promising. I haven't found a really good link to give you, but just google tissue culture or for more specific to our hobby, cannabis tissue culture. I've read about kits you can buy to take and keep the samples but haven't looked any up. Hope someone else has fun looking into this, I know I will. Damn... I wrote a novel and didn't really say much. Lol. This BLZ and White Widow combo is wicked. Nite all

steeliesteve said:

Back to your DNA statement a few pages back, it's actually possible. Look into tissue culture. People are already using it for keeping genetics around. My friend and fellow grower and I were talking about it the other night. I haven't read up on it a lot yet but what I've read sounds promising. I haven't found a really good link to give you, but just google tissue culture or for more specific to our hobby, cannabis tissue culture. I've read about kits you can buy to take and keep the samples but haven't looked any up. Hope someone else has fun looking into this, I know I will. Damn... I wrote a novel and didn't really say much. Lol. This BLZ and White Widow combo is wicked. Nite all

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I figured that there would be a way! That is some interesting stuff bro. The little research I did looks promising. Would be an excellent way to keep that perfect pheno around even after she is cloned out. My worries are if it ever goes fully legal and large companies start patenting genetics. Could effectively make cloning and pollinating illegal.

Not that being illegal stopped it from being grown to begin with.

I see where you're going with it, but I'm not sure how they would control that. Cloning and pollinating would be near impossible to control.

Something else I've been looking at are CVault containers. They keep your stash at a constant 62% humidity. I'm gonna get one when I have some money and check em out.

Allright, I have the "groundbreaking" done on my upcoming grow, and as promised here is the link - https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/712142-stoneslackers-250w-micro-hempy-scrog.html#post9523339. As I stated earlier, of the 3 seeds I germed, the Dinafem Blue Hash and World of Seeds Afghan Kush Special are the only ones to sprout. The World of Seeds Pakistan Valley cracked and sprouted a small nub, then died out from there. So I went to my buddy's and the only clones he had available were Big Buddha Cheese. I was able to get a clone comparable in size to the seedlings so things should work out well. Hope to see you all over in my next journal. Peace

Day 61 update. It definitely doesn't look like my original plan of harvesting on day 70 was accurate. They look ready to harvest now and I gave them another shot of plain water tonight and I'll shut the lights down tomorrow morning and harvest Thursday or Friday. I could probably give the BR a few more days, but the Mazar and NL are both ready now and may start to degrade soon. They all have put on some weight this week, I can feel how top heavy the buds are right now.

Didn't get alot of pics and didn't have the best lighting, but had to make it quick. My daughter has a couple friends staying over and there is nothing on earth more nosy than a group of teenage girls.

Black Russian is pulling nutrients from her leaves and yellowing alot. She could probably go a bit more but she definitely came on alot at the end here. Lots of late bud development with this strain and much of her size was put on after week 6. I love her smell so much!


The BR clone has a really fat and dense top.




Mazar x GWS is done and ready to harvest. She really added some bulk in the last week too and is looking outstanding. She shows her indica side with extremely dense nugs.


Maz clone is nice and full. Very dense and frosty.




NL x Skunk is also ready to harvest. She didn't foxtail much more and certainly added some weight as both the mainline and clone are tipping over. I tied them back up with some support to make it through the next couple days. She has developed more of a skunk smell the last couple weeks. Still sweet smelling too, but she has been overpowering the scrubber the last week. Glad to chop her and clear the air a bit.


NL clone is fat and full. This strain would make a great SOG candidate.


Peace

What a post!

Great work. The Maz...heck they all looked so frosty.

I would love to taste the BR. That is the TGA strain right?

I love my Qrazy Train.

Thanks for sharing.

JD

Javadog said:

What a post!

Great work. The Maz...heck they all looked so frosty.

I would love to taste the BR. That is the TGA strain right?

I love my Qrazy Train.

Thanks for sharing.

JD

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Thanks JD. The BR is actually from Delicious ceeds. Delicious indeed! Smells like sour patch kids candy, I really like her. She started off very slow but really amped up towards the end.

I tried some TGA Apollo x Vortex once and loved it. I would love to try some TGA strains but don't have the space for an actual veg area and mom shack. There is a good bit of variety to Sub's phenos and I would like to have the time and space hunt down my favorite. When I do, the Ap x Vor is 1st on my list.

Ill have to check out the Qrazy Train too. I loved Space Jill the couple times I've tried it and I am a big fan of the Trainwreck.

Thanks for the great compliment too! Peace

Cool.

I have not popped anything by Delicious yet, but I do have their Critical Jack Herer.

Apollo x Vortex Hmmmm..... :0)

JD

P.S. It is at Attitude, and added to my list.

Holy shot bro! I can't believe how much weight those chunky girls packed on recently! I'm learning fast not to expect anything but pure awesomeness in your threads! My BR isn't cloning for shit, I've had 3 cuttings in my aero cloner for almost a couple weeks now and 1 finally has roots. She's definitely not an "easy cloner" as they advertise. At least my pheno isn't. I think I'm just gonna flower her out. Hope she looks half as good as yours when she's done! Amazing work!

edit- I combined my trim with my buddies and passed it off to one of his friends who is gonna turn it into bubble hash then wax. The guy gets 25% of the finished product but says he averages around a zip of wax per pound of trim. We gave him over 1.5 lbs of trim so we're hoping for more than an ounce of wax! Not bad for sittin on our asses smoking while he does all the work. puff puff pass--> BLZ bong rips

Shit Stoney how'd I miss the update! Those girls look freakin amazing bro, the mazar x gws was my fav but Im sorta leaning toward the NLxsk..ah fuck they all look great man

Man them nugs are sweet! i love the soda can comparison it really shows the size of the bud and gives my imagination a little more to work with. Them girls are NICE SS! Great Job!

Excellent work. Will regular miracle. Grow perlite work or do you recommend the bigger stuff at the hydro store. I'm sorry you may have mentioned your h2o meths, ebb flow, drip? Do you think that a 400 would heat your area up too much? Would a 400 make your buds longer and dense. The picture with the grape can seems like at the bottom of the can is about where lumens start to diminish. Am I wrong? With all of 3 sq/ft 250 hid hps is really all you need I assume. Your shit looks great. Where did you get seeds?

Cuttings, sorry. I forgot they were clones. I hate when people don't read the entire post.

Can you point me to a site to learn the difference in wax and hash. Is wax budder ? The super high T shit

steeliesteve said:

Holy shot bro! I can't believe how much weight those chunky girls packed on recently! I'm learning fast not to expect anything but pure awesomeness in your threads! My BR isn't cloning for shit, I've had 3 cuttings in my aero cloner for almost a couple weeks now and 1 finally has roots. She's definitely not an "easy cloner" as they advertise. At least my pheno isn't. I think I'm just gonna flower her out. Hope she looks half as good as yours when she's done! Amazing work!

edit- I combined my trim with my buddies and passed it off to one of his friends who is gonna turn it into bubble hash then wax. The guy gets 25% of the finished product but says he averages around a zip of wax per pound of trim. We gave him over 1.5 lbs of trim so we're hoping for more than an ounce of wax! Not bad for sittin on our asses smoking while he does all the work. puff puff pass--> BLZ bong rips

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Thanks bro. Not quite on par with the scrog grow, but I'm not complaining too much. Ya the BR was the slowest cloner of the 3, all 3 clones I took rooted but took upwards of 3 weeks. Does the guys use multiple bags for his bubble? He then turns the bubble into wax? Sounds great, let me know how it turns out. Be careful transporting it though, as all concentrates are no longer covered by medical certification in MI. It is now a felony to possess concentrates, which is so stupid. Is it not still cannabis?

eastcoastmo said:

Shit Stoney how'd I miss the update! Those girls look freakin amazing bro, the mazar x gws was my fav but Im sorta leaning toward the NLxsk..ah fuck they all look great man

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Hey Easty, I'd been neglecting the thread a bit and updates had been sporadic. All 3 have given a great effort the past couple weeks, and like you I have been flip-flopping on my favorite. NLxSk is really looking and smelling very appealing. I love the old school genetics and fondly remember the sweet, piney NL nugs from my youth. Still chasing that dragon, trying to find a real nice old school strain. It sure is a fun chase though mate!

StevieStoner said:

Man them nugs are sweet! i love the soda can comparison it really shows the size of the bud and gives my imagination a little more to work with. Them girls are NICE SS! Great Job!

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Thanks bro! I borrowed the soda can idea from you mate, really helps to give perspective when a Bic won't do. They really packed on some size the past couple weeks, I think I'm liking the early returns on the Dry Koolbloom. Looking forward to trying it on my upcoming scrog.

charlestonchunk said:

Excellent work. Will regular miracle. Grow perlite work or do you recommend the bigger stuff at the hydro store. I'm sorry you may have mentioned your h2o meths, ebb flow, drip? Do you think that a 400 would heat your area up too much? Would a 400 make your buds longer and dense. The picture with the grape can seems like at the bottom of the can is about where lumens start to diminish. Am I wrong? With all of 3 sq/ft 250 hid hps is really all you need I assume. Your shit looks great. Where did you get seeds?

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Cuttings, sorry. I forgot they were clones. I hate when people don't read the entire post.

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Thanks CC. I use the MG or Schulz perlite. I always rinse my perlite very well and haven't had many if any issues with CRF's in the MG perlite. Works great for me, perfect size.

I hand water every 2-5 days, depending on bucket and plant size. This grow is in coffee cans so I water a bit more frequently, about every 2-3 days. I let my buckets dry out really well before watering each time.

I went cheap when I made my grow cab and only have a 4in inline exhaust fan. This fan barely keeps my cab cool enough to grow during the warmer months. I wish I would have went with a 6in, but I have worked around the light limitations with some plant training. The lumens drop off right around 10in, like you said right about where the soda can is. I keep my 250 about 4-6in away from the tops and this grow is much taller than my usual scrog grows so I have my light plastered to the ceiling as high as it will go. The scrog system will maximize the output of the 250w better than the mainline IMO.

They are from seed actually. The 3 that are mainlined are freebie seeds from the Attitude seed bank. They are Delicious Seeds Black Russian, World of seeds Mazar x Great white shark, and WoS Northern Lights x Skunk. I trained them for 8, 6, and 4 mainline heads respectively. I then took clones from each and ran them as 12/12 from clones along side the mainlines.

Thanks for checking out the thread CC. I will be starting my next grow which will be a 3 plant scrog like the first grow in this journal. Link is in my sig. Peace

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Can you point me to a site to learn the difference in wax and hash. Is wax budder ? The super high T shit

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Yes the wax is budder. Usually refined with butane or grain alcohol. Budder is more concentrated than hash and contains less plant material. They are similar but the budder uses a solvent to remove the THC glands.

The chase is the fun part hey mate i've found one of the strains from my youth, still looking for the other one but i reckon i may have it this time we'll see in a few months!!

eastcoastmo said:

The chase is the fun part hey mate i've found one of the strains from my youth, still looking for the other one but i reckon i may have it this time we'll see in a few months!!

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Truer words were never spoken bro! Is that C99 the dragon your chasing now mate? Or one of those sick BBx's your hunting. Hope you slay that m-fer!